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### Author Topic: Tommey Reed's Liquid Piston Test Chamber.  (Read 737 times)

#### TommeyReed

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##### Tommey Reed's Liquid Piston Test Chamber.
« on: April 26, 2023, 02:48:44 PM »
Hi All,

I've have been working one a new type of engine design using fluids to replace basic IC engine. This is based on the research I did on the Clem engine prototyping and testing.

What if we using fluid as a liquid piston being pump upward in to a combustion chamber with air and any type of fuel?

Dealing with Charles Law, we know temperature is very imported in and type of combustion. So the liquid would have to heat up to get more efficiency.

The high efficiency and output would be greater then any IC today, due to the fact liquid is being force downward to either a turbine or even a propulsion water jet system.

We all seen water rockets, but most people don't realize the true output of the thrust when compress air is forcing the water outward.

The water rocket basic math is :1.57*psi*dia*dia. In other words the thrust of a 1/4 diameter jet at 120 psi would produce 1.57*120psi*.25*.25= 11.775 lb of force.
Now imagine having 2" diameter jet with 2000+psi:  1.57*2000*2*2= 12,560lb of thrust at peek pressure.

This is the future of engines!

This is a basic test chamber I will be building.

Tom

#### TommeyReed

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##### Re: Tommey Reed's Liquid Piston Test Chamber.
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2023, 01:46:41 PM »
Hi All,

I just got back home and will start working on this combustion chamber tester. I was able to find a small over head valve to build this test chamber that will allow fluid to be pumped into a air chamber and explode like a water rocket.

If this works, it would be a new type of engine I call a fluid piston engine that has no crank shaft or pistons.

Tom

#### TommeyReed

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##### Re: Tommey Reed's Liquid Piston Test Chamber.
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2023, 01:36:04 AM »
Hi All,

New update of this liquid piston build.

Tom

#### Cloxxki

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##### Re: Tommey Reed's Liquid Piston Test Chamber.
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2023, 07:49:34 PM »
Intriguing concept!
My first thoughts:
You lose the flywheel-like behaviour of solid pistons. With the liquid piston, you have a water hammer with inlet and exhaust strokes. The water rocket is great in that it has one long exhaust stroke.
Spark and combustion timing will be interesting with the variable water volume shifted.

Effectively this solution is competing with a pump from say, a jet ski drivetrain?

#### seychelles

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##### Re: Tommey Reed's Liquid Piston Test Chamber.
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2023, 08:21:05 PM »
YEAH BACK TO THE FUTURE PAST.

#### TommeyReed

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##### Re: Tommey Reed's Liquid Piston Test Chamber.
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2023, 10:17:22 PM »

#### TommeyReed

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##### Re: Tommey Reed's Liquid Piston Test Chamber.
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2023, 02:27:47 AM »
Hi All,

This is some interesting things on Victor Fischer who worked on water injected engines.

http://www.rexresearch.com/fischer/fischer.htm

Tom

#### ramset

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##### Re: Tommey Reed's Liquid Piston Test Chamber.
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2023, 07:20:35 PM »
Just a reminder to those unaware of multifaceted test chamber ,
Sam Leach claim is on “to do”list .

500psi lithium nitrate 20 ppm in water -injected into ICE runs on water ?
2 independent Los Angeles labs verified claim in 1975-6

Tremendous gratitude to Mr.Reed putting this on his busy work schedule!

Respectfully
Chet K

#### truesearch

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##### Re: Tommey Reed's Liquid Piston Test Chamber.
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2023, 07:41:02 PM »
That sounds very interesting. . . . with today's resources it might prove successful. . .

Off the shelf option: Bosch offers fuel-injectors that can handle up to 350-bars (5000 psi):
https://www.bosch-mobility.com/en/solutions/valves/high-pressure-injector/

And lithium nitrate isn't cheap but it can be ordered:
https://www.fishersci.com/shop/products/lithium-nitrate-99-extra-pure-thermo-scientific/AC211322500