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Author Topic: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"  (Read 10052 times)

SolarLab

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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #60 on: May 14, 2023, 01:20:04 AM »
SL,
What's wrong with this?
Why not show your documentation and data from that proof?

A sincere effort to show real time simultaneous input and output power for a sustained period of at least a few minutes.
...


Can't you pull up your lab log, copy and paste the data here with the photos. Or simply repeat the same test. That's all I'm asking. Proof of your claim. Nothing exotic. Just accurate input and output power, like you would have needed to conclude that you had proven it in the lab.

You made the claim based on a test right? Show it to us, or repeat it and show that to us. What is wrong with that?

bi


The "LinGen" CAE Analysis posted elsewhere over a year ago are the "Proofs." From there you can build up your own
device and test it.

The physical lab models are still "Trade Secret" until such time as HES releases their products. I'm sure you can
appreciate the legalities of Licensing and confidentiality, etc. plus liabilities. If not, then, oh well!

Not sure what your goals are, but I'm naturally suspecious base on the past...

So, the answer to your pestering is still - NO! Go Fish elsewhere. There is no need to carry this on further.
Its become redundant and, quite frankly, very silly. Claim whatever you decide, its unimportant in the whole scheme.

Look somewhere else for your fame and fortune, pot of gold, or whatever your after.

Case Closed - Bye Bye...

SL

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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #61 on: May 14, 2023, 02:22:26 AM »


The "LinGen" CAE Analysis posted elsewhere over a year ago are the "Proofs." From there you can build up your own
device and test it.

The physical lab models are still "Trade Secret" until such time as HES releases their products. I'm sure you can
appreciate the legalities of Licensing and confidentiality, etc. plus liabilities. If not, then, oh well!

Not sure what your goals are, but I'm naturally suspecious base on the past...

So, the answer to your pestering is still - NO! Go Fish elsewhere. There is no need to carry this on further.
Its become redundant and, quite frankly, very silly. Claim whatever you decide, its unimportant in the whole scheme.

Look somewhere else for your fame and fortune, pot of gold, or whatever your after.

Case Closed - Bye Bye...

SL

Thanks for clearing this up SL.
You never had any intent to show the proof which you claimed,  and we know the real reason.
As for your LinGen CAE analysis, it's far from proof.
You call it pestering to ask for proof of claim. What do you call making claim without proof?
My goals? Find someone who will prove their claim of working FE device. Nobody will, and we know the reason.
Gotta wonder about your goals. Try to find some big boy pants that fit.
bi

SolarLab

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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #62 on: May 14, 2023, 03:18:01 AM »
Like I said:

Look somewhere else for your fame and fortune, pot of gold, or whatever your after.

Case Closed - Bye Bye...


bistander

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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #63 on: May 14, 2023, 04:17:37 AM »
Like I said:

Look somewhere else for your fame and fortune, pot of gold, or whatever your after.

Case Closed - Bye Bye...

SL,
Just after someone with the common decency to stand behind a claim they made. But that is beyond your integrity and respect for a fellow human being apparently.

My fame and fortune is off topic. Pot of gold is of no interest to me. The in-lab proof of excess energy device you claim to have is what I am after.
bi
 

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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #64 on: May 14, 2023, 05:15:24 AM »
SL,
Just after someone with the common decency to stand behind a claim they made. But that is beyond your integrity and respect for a fellow human being apparently.

My fame and fortune is off topic. Pot of gold is of no interest to me. The in-lab proof of excess energy device you claim to have is what I am after.
bi
 


bi,

Be aware I know, and see, the game in the broad scope - been there, and fought that before, a few times. Your not fooling anyone.

Your "fame and fortune and pot-of-gold" are the topic. It's a very old game BTW.

Nowhere have you ever shown how, if you gained the $10T/yr technology, you would save the World. So, why would anyone just
give that technology to you? You can't even define what a "proof" would consist of, or is!

Besides; you already have the technology (LinGen) - why don't you just build it and test it yourself - small effort on your part to, as
you claim, "Save The World" - an extremely small effort. You are certainly NOT the Authority "Proof" Guru, that's for sure.   

Your aim is clear - it's to stop it - not just my opinion BTW! I wasn't born yesturday... neither was Chris.

We can go on forever, but I'm convinced you, et. al., have now been exposed - prove me wrong!

Show your "Save the World" plan. Show anything of value; other than "give me this technology" because "I say so." 

SL


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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #65 on: May 14, 2023, 06:21:36 AM »


bi,

Be aware I know, and see, the game in the broad scope - been there, and fought that before, a few times. Your not fooling anyone.

Your "fame and fortune and pot-of-gold" are the topic. It's a very old game BTW.

Nowhere have you ever shown how, if you gained the $10T/yr technology, you would save the World. So, why would anyone just
give that technology to you? You can't even define what a "proof" would consist of, or is!

Besides; you already have the technology (LinGen) - why don't you just build it and test it yourself - small effort on your part to, as
you claim, "Save The World" - an extremely small effort. You are certainly NOT the Authority "Proof" Guru, that's for sure.   

Your aim is clear - it's to stop it - not just my opinion BTW! I wasn't born yesturday... neither was Chris.

We can go on forever, but I'm convinced you, et. al., have now been exposed - prove me wrong!

Show your "Save the World" plan. Show anything of value; other than "give me this technology" because "I say so." 

SL

SL,
You're delusional. I play no game. But it isn't about me. Read the topic. Look at the forum mission statement. I'm here to help in the quest for a better energy source for the benefit of mankind and mother earth. Period.

After a long and successful, IMO, career, I hoped I might share some knowledge and experience with a younger enthusiastic researcher to help them see through the scams and BS to apply science and truth, stimulating perhaps a novel idea of their own. It amazes me how much resistance and crap I take helping others. It is true, no good deed goes unpunished. But I endure.

I know I'll not save the world, but I can call BS on greedy scammers. Prove Holcomb has anything of value. I dare you. Your LinGen prototype is small enough to put in a box so details are hidden. Meter input and output, loop it and run it for a month on camera. How's that for a test procedure? You're a smart boy. If you really have it, you could easily figure a way to prove it without divulging any details not already published. I don't accept you're lame excuses. We know why you won't show your in-lab proof don't we.
bi

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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #66 on: May 14, 2023, 07:05:48 AM »
SL,
You're delusional. I play no game. But it isn't about me. Read the topic. Look at the forum mission statement. I'm here to help in the quest for a better energy source for the benefit of mankind and mother earth. Period.

After a long and successful, IMO, career, I hoped I might share some knowledge and experience with a younger enthusiastic researcher to help them see through the scams and BS to apply science and truth, stimulating perhaps a novel idea of their own. It amazes me how much resistance and crap I take helping others. It is true, no good deed goes unpunished. But I endure.

I know I'll not save the world, but I can call BS on greedy scammers. Prove Holcomb has anything of value. I dare you. Your LinGen prototype is small enough to put in a box so details are hidden. Meter input and output, loop it and run it for a month on camera. How's that for a test procedure? You're a smart boy. If you really have it, you could easily figure a way to prove it without divulging any details not already published. I don't accept you're lame excuses. We know why you won't show your in-lab proof don't we.
bi


bi,

Thanks for sharing your "Save the World Plan" and "What a Proof really is" - enlightening, I guess?

I'll leave you in this "forum bubble" and let you have the last post, as you seem to think that's important!

Have a good one, but keep in mind the "LinGen" is the first device to be presented here that shows (proven)
Excess Energy. Of course you already knew that being the resident "Proof" expert here - no CAE experience however;
and no shown build T&M; but lots of forum chit chat which, you seem to think, makes up for this gross lack.

Whatever...

Be careful about the "greedy scammers" comments however, might come back to bite you, and et. al.. 

Take care and have a good one,

SL

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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #67 on: May 14, 2023, 07:26:26 AM »


bi,

Thanks for sharing your "Save the World Plan" and "What a Proof really is" - enlightening, I guess?

I'll leave you in the "forum bubble" and let you have the last post as you seem to think that's important!

Have a good one, but keep in mind the "LinGen" is the first device to be presented here that shows (proven)
Excess Energy. Of course you already knew that being the resident "Proof" expert here - no CAE experience however;
but lots of forum chit chat which, you seem to think, makes up for the gross lack. Whatever...

Be careful about the "greedy scammers" comments however, might come back to bite you, and et. al.. 

Take care and have a good one,

SL

SL

What value is hidden proof?

None.

If CAE was proof, why did you build LinGen prototype and test it?

Oh yeah, you know. I know.

C'ya.
bi

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Saving SL's reply here as I've noticed he deleted one earlier.



Wanted to show you all how modern technolgy development is done - as i've posted
many times here and elsewhere.

It was a hobby project to basically provide another approach to design and development,
take a CAE course and see how things are done these days - only after varifying your
design using modern tools, do you move to spending time and money winding coils and
soldering.

Too expensive, not really, do it as a project while learning or working (off-hours if need be).
Plus, you can get a high paying job with your new found skills.

CAE does not allow you hide anything as you should know; if you were skilled in the Profession.

BTW, you don't know shit!  :) as you have indicated many times...

Like I said:

Look somewhere else for your fame and fortune, pot of gold, or whatever your after.

Case Closed - Bye Bye...
« Last Edit: May 14, 2023, 02:03:56 PM by bistander »

SolarLab

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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #68 on: May 14, 2023, 07:39:21 AM »
SL

What value is hidden proof?

None.

If CAE was proof, why did you build LinGen prototype and test it?

Oh yeah, you know. I know.

C'ya.
bi


Wanted to show you all how modern technolgy development is done - as i've posted
many times here and elsewhere.

It was a hobby project to basically provide another approach to design and development,
take a CAE course and see how things are done these days - only after varifying your
design using modern tools, do you move to spending time and money winding coils and
soldering.

Too expensive, not really, do it as a project while learning or working (off-hours if need be).
Plus, you can get a high paying job with your new found skills.

CAE does not allow you hide anything as you should know; if you were skilled in the Profession.

BTW, you don't know shit!  :) as you have indicated many times...

Like I said:

Look somewhere else for your fame and fortune, pot of gold, or whatever your after.

Case Closed - Bye Bye...





SolarLab

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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #69 on: May 14, 2023, 12:26:46 PM »
A Perfect Example of How 
"THE CONSPIRACY AGAINST EXCESS ENERGY DEVICES WORKS"
     (And how the "Trolls Shills and LARPs operate)

The preceding 5 pages provides a good example of how some participants in these forums
perpetuate, and carry out, their Troll Shill Conspiracies, and worse.

In the first page a diagram and patent for the Excess Energy Generator (ZERG) is given.
But before "the ink is even dry" along comes the Troll Shills claiming great knowledge and
and proclaiming the the device "BS" )I know BS when I see it).

Now this Troll Shill has a history of this behaviour and it is brought to his attention. But
to no avail - this Troll Shill carries on and on for 5 pages. Spouting " The ones I've
commented on don't work" and bla bla...

Then the Co-Conspirators join the "Nay Say" supposedly claiming failed replications; even
though they have no knowledge of the detailed design nor engineering specifications.

MR. ZERG (the Inventor of the ZERG) then joins the posting on page 2 where he briefly
describs his Z.E.R.G Generator, including a third party varification by Intertek.

The next few pages are typical "Troll Roll" and great wisdom from the masses.

So, after 3 pages - lets "flush these Trolls!  It took several more pages but the results
speak for themselves:

Here you have a Troll Shill with no knowledge of Excess Energy Devices and no Skill
Set in Professional CAE Analysis nor any knowledge of, or "Hands On" experience
with, any form of "Proof of Concept;" let alone a technical appreciation of such
devices - oh, he does apparently know how a motor works => so => an OU Expert?

Now the plot thickens - the real Trolling is exposed - he want's the complete details
of the device testing, etc. - So, we ask why - but we know why - and the whole
scheme is finally exposed! Disrupt the technology by any means possible!

We've seen this time and again but it's rare its brought to light so quickly (5 pages).

JMHO  ;)


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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #70 on: May 14, 2023, 01:21:43 PM »
SL,
I've been criticizing bad science in the form of claim without proof. You again resort to belittle me.
bi

ps. Reviewing this thread.

I responded politely to MR ZERG's post. Another member posts about zero force motor. I reply to that with my opinion of bad science terms zero force motor, nullified EMF generators and doubled efficiency. You jumped in and caused the distraction with your belittling attack "Clown world of the week" post. Do not blame me for taking this thread off track.

And I apologize to MR ZERG. I actually wanted, and still do, to discuss with him things such as how or why he claims doubled efficiency. Because of you, SL, that is unlikely. It's unfortunate you could not have kept quiet.

For convenient reference:
Clown world of the week:
 ...
Can't help but love and appreciate the Dumpster Humour here!

Thanks, I needed a good laugh!

SL

Laugh on SL.

SolarLab

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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #71 on: May 14, 2023, 07:40:04 PM »
SL,
I've been criticizing bad science in the form of claim without proof. You again resort to belittle me.
bi

ps. Reviewing this thread.

I responded politely to MR ZERG's post. Another member posts about zero forcemotor. I reply to that with my opinion of bad science terms zero force motor, nullified EMF generators and doubled efficiency. You jumped in and caused the distraction with your belittling attack "Clown world of the week" post. Do not blame me for taking this thread off track.

And I apologize to MR ZERG. I actually wanted, and still do, to discuss with him things such as how or why he claims doubled efficiency. Because of you, SL, that is unlikely. It's unfortunate you could not have kept quiet.

For convenient reference:
Laugh on SL.





Big difference between being exposed and belittling * you were EXPOSED * ! 






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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #72 on: May 14, 2023, 08:28:09 PM »
A classic example of why it is mandatory to have a moderated build topic,
We definitely have the ability to do this here ( happening more and more all the time )
, and it is under discussion off forum ATM
( who will help moderate here)


Needless to say I should have tried to set this up prior to inviting Ron to discussion ( it was his interest that generated this topic .


My apologies to Ron and if Mr Zerg is indeed the inventor
Likewise!


For clarity once a builder starts to replicate or ?
That takes precedence on topic !


Nothing will interfere


All good ..as we get back on track …( and that is definitely the goal)
Tremendous gratitude ..
And for clarity..helpful scrutiny ( or helpful suggestions) always welcome !
As are good measurement protocols ( always evolving and open to discussion)
Generic scrutiny.. not so much !


Respectfully
Chet K
PS
For clarity
Some claims involve several fields of science
Some of these not well understood (LENR… plasmas…gravity ..magnetics etc)
We all learn together..
 






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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #73 on: May 14, 2023, 08:38:58 PM »
1 poste : ZERG demonstration,as image

The patent,the mosaic,far away from the shown "conventional ZERG generator image"
The patent model mosaic remembers me,25 years back research :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19820831&CC=YU&NR=213180A&KC=A#
used principle,now as magnet equipped device ,in german called "Unruh",
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unruh_%28Uhr%29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balance_wheel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_oscillator

Claude Jaquet; CH; analog,precision,WATCHMAKER

About geral basic energy conversion related physics,a trial :
https://www.overunity-theory.de/Buch_gedruckt_korrigiert.pdf
https://www.overunity-theory.de/rotator/rotatornew.pdfhttp://maecourses.ucsd.edu/callafon/labcourse/lecturenotes/Lagrange_Handout.pdf
study and counterview:
https://www2.mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de/~bruhn/Energie_diss.htm




"doubling the efficiency" -potential from actual used industrial/comercial technology
https://overunity.com/18833/about-momentum-converter/


wmbr
OCWL


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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #74 on: May 16, 2023, 08:35:28 PM »

Not a problem Chet, another case of where my expectations where higher than what the device warranted.


Same old same old if the device does not come with exact build instructions then it becomes impossible to replicate exactly.


My thanks to bistander for his attempts to keep this forum on track. That the interloper was unwilling to answer your simple question says it all!


Regards,


Ron

A classic example of why it is mandatory to have a moderated build topic,
We definitely have the ability to do this here ( happening more and more all the time )
, and it is under discussion off forum ATM
( who will help moderate here)


Needless to say I should have tried to set this up prior to inviting Ron to discussion ( it was his interest that generated this topic .


My apologies to Ron and if Mr Zerg is indeed the inventor
Likewise!


For clarity once a builder starts to replicate or ?
That takes precedence on topic !


Nothing will interfere


All good ..as we get back on track …( and that is definitely the goal)
Tremendous gratitude ..
And for clarity..helpful scrutiny ( or helpful suggestions) always welcome !
As are good measurement protocols ( always evolving and open to discussion)
Generic scrutiny.. not so much !


Respectfully
Chet K
PS
For clarity
Some claims involve several fields of science
Some of these not well understood (LENR… plasmas…gravity ..magnetics etc)
We all learn together..