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Author Topic: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"  (Read 10053 times)

bistander

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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #30 on: May 12, 2023, 12:01:02 AM »
Zero force motor....?  The whole purpose of a motor is to produce force (torque).

In thread title: generator nullifies EMF....? The whole point of a generator is to produce EMF.

Doubles efficiency....? Currently high quality electric machinery in the kW or larger sizes, at rated, run 90% efficient. 100kW or larger often >95%. Double that to 180-190%? Come on, really?

Let's see what this guy has. If he can prove, or convincingly demonstrate something of value, I could be very interested and in a position to invest.
bi

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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #31 on: May 12, 2023, 06:36:57 AM »
So let me jump in here and help out. I want to first say I like the healthy skepticism.  I like the denial even better. Because it was that which allowed me to invent it first. Like they say if it were easy everyone would be doing it.

1) Z.E.R.G  and M.E.I.M are not the same technologies, although they share a similar magnetic field bending manipulation. Similar but not the same.
2) Z.E.R.G does not require magnets, M.E.I.M. does and MEIM has to, although the exact architecture design which is not public (Patent is, look under Magnetic Electric Impulse motor.) re-magnetizes the magnets in operation and they will out last the structure, so recyclable. Nice feature in our green world.
3) MEIM uses power only 50% of the time, which is power savings #1. Power savings #2 in the power phase the fields of a stator magnet is combined with the stator coils, so super power phase. Power savings #3, the stator magnet engages the rotor by its self in the power off phase, so unlike a pulse motor, there is no magnet-less glide phase.
4) ZERG BEMF is assimilated into a natural occurring magnetic field, so eliminated. So that's why load does not effect torque. The higher the BEMF the higher the other field. Lens law is firmly intact, and is very important to the process.
5) Last November we produced a 150kw magnet-less AC generator, with a normal sinewave which was 3rd party verified, US DOE reviewed with not only no torque, but actually had a small extra kick to it.
6) Yes ZERG still needs a drive motor, but any drive motor only has to overcome the normal mechanical resistance and not load resistance. So 15HP 150 kwh that kind of thing.   

The technology is 3rd party verified by Intertek out of Dallas, which is one of the worlds most respected companies for this work, and many of you will know them already. The US Department of Energy reviewed both technologies and they not us called it a king maker. They have gone so far as to introduce us to the industry, having fully proven it in their labs. One email is on our web page, and you can see it in various articles but we have more.

The MEIM motor was built for a US interest to replace the Mach -E motor. Its numbers will be out soon.

I hope this answer your questions, and thank you for asking them on this blog and your comments as well. 14 years ago I stood on your side and asked similar questions. Now its here, and I know how hard that is to believe. But this is 2023, Kind of think its about time, right?

TY
Dave
Feel free to contact me with any more questions through our web site.
Thanks Dave. I have filled out the form on the site. That is quite a design. Congrats on getting the patent for the MEIM. https://patents.google.com/patent/US20190173340A1/en?oq=20190173340 for those interested.

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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #32 on: May 12, 2023, 08:56:38 AM »
Clown world of the week:

Zero force motor....?  The whole purpose of a motor is to produce force (torque).

In thread title: generator nullifies EMF....? The whole point of a generator is to produce EMF.

Doubles efficiency....? Currently high quality electric machinery in the kW or larger sizes, at rated, run 90% efficient. 100kW or larger often >95%. Double that to 180-190%? Come on, really?

Let's see what this guy has. If he can prove, or convincingly demonstrate something of value, I could be very interested and in a position to invest.
bi
Hi Dave,

I guess I should not have searched Google for zerg. But found your web site and see this
I'm reluctant to distribute personal information required on that form. Please post and show those details here.
Thanks,
bi

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Or send details to me via PM(private message). Click on my username. If desired, I'll agree to keep that information to myself. Thank you.


Ever heard of an "Investment/Portfoilio Manager!

Can't help but love and appreciate the Dumpster Humour here!

Thanks, I needed a good laugh!

SL




lancaIV

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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #33 on: May 12, 2023, 09:09:29 AM »
Good Morning,bistander
Zero force motor....?  The whole purpose of a motor is to produce force (torque).
(torque) not alone,but (torque x RPM),for comparing the measured results,pony brake teste et cet.

In thread title: generator nullifies EMF....? The whole point of a generator is to produce EMF.

Really,not EMF-conversion ? Beside EMF,MMF !

Doubles efficiency....? Currently high quality electric machinery in the kW or larger sizes, at rated, run 90% efficient. 100kW or larger often >95%. Double that to 180-190%? Come on, really?

90% as peak efficiency and the generator its average efficiency ?
Observe the progressive in-/de-crease,Affinity laws !,from energy in-/con-verter,rotative or non-motive

Its a DC or AC output,by AC the positive AND negative magnetic field conversion ?
Lenz and Fleming,ccw and cw

Let's see what this guy has. If he can prove, or convincingly demonstrate something of value, I could be very interested and in a position to invest.

Time will tell and show it what this and other guies/guys has/have re-/discovered 

wmbr
OCWL

bi
p.s.:

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Kango+iida&IN=&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search

Look the hydraulic energy converter,kinetical, the applied formula and effect
Change the blades,natural energy converter,with a.DC,b.AC,c.pulsed DC motors,electro-motive energy converter !
Change blades,ccw-blade with ccw AC motor and cw-blade with cw AC motor
DC motors are ccw or cw direction devices,included generator function !
AC motor ,compared DC,functional limitations !
With Capacitor ?
Steinmetz ? Gabriel Kron ?
Logic school !
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=Carl+Steinmetz&oq=Carl+Steinmetz&aqs=heirloom-srp..0l5
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=gabriel+kron&oq=gabriel+kron+&aqs=heirloom-srp.1.0l5

R&D level !
Max.to Min.: His method of system decomposition and solution called Diakoptics
Counterview : Min.to Max.: Puzzle-piece to Ready Puzzle-Image,without missing parts,and patientia


OMG so many discoverer with their discoveries,2023 many of them " mainstream death",non named : forgotten !
https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/solvay-conference-probably-intelligent-picture-ever-taken-1927/
HushHush-/RushRush-society 2023

Btw : Fluid/Hydraulic energy converter,a.kinetic b.EMF-MMF shaft output couple
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=3&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19981222&CC=JP&NR=H10341560A&KC=A#
Total C.O.P. ? Theoretical,by formula,physical - by industrial efficiencies and work out quality ?

For all of Us net-user public :
http://www.rexresearch.com/kawai/1kawai.htm
Re-/discovering Our real world situation change interests ? Motivation ? Barrier ?
The Minor-/Maior-self-estimation-complex,in Best performance  ?
The Lady O. society will show Us the REAL PROGRESS VELOCITY ancient 10 years projects in ≤ 1year/month !
Ultra-Learning,Ultra-Working ,Ultra-Efficiency
IT never sleeps

Steinmetz,Kron : in easier demonstration -also theoretical calculation and measurement error by using pure DC-formulas like P=VI
in non-/net grid frequency band AC and/or im-/ex- pulsed -variable- DC technology- I recommend

https://www.google.com/search?q=Philip+Kanarev&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m

EMF and MMF
" BEMF and BMMF" ! ? Really ?
GEMK  und GMMK
translates
with
CEMF and CMMF
FB-EMF : partial feedback cycle
G.egen = C.ounter
C-ccw and cw real time parallel EMF/MMF cycle
" .....And/or .... " Logistics

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=Professor+Felix+Ehrenhaft&oq=Professor+Felix+Ehrenhaft&aqs=heirloom-srp..
ZP=Vacuum Field cycle

Electro-/ and/or Magneto-Statik Electret Magnetret Captret

Static : related Physics https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statics
              related Economy : https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A9on_Walras
              1:1= Nullsumme   = augmented reality
              to Relativistic Economy https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-642-74285-9_8
              Eherne Zinsgesetz or Eternal Tax Law by C.C.v.Weizsaecker(I reed about it 1987,wiwo-printmagazine)

https://www.puls24.at/news/digital/ki-godfather-kuendigt-bei-google-um-vor-kuenstlicher-intelligenz-zu-warnen/296225
                                                     IN A.I. I TRUST  ,IT IS ME SIMILAR BUT NOT SAME
                                                     I AM https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzzylogik -er,applicant
                                                     Without mental frontiers,mental barriers
                                                     Brainstoarm(Faith Popcorn : "Report" )-er
                                                     I PREFER METAVIEW,SPACE AND TIME AND OBJECT RELATED
« Last Edit: May 12, 2023, 01:50:32 PM by lancaIV »

bistander

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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #34 on: May 12, 2023, 02:15:25 PM »
Clown world of the week:
 

Ever heard of an "Investment/Portfoilio Manager!

Can't help but love and appreciate the Dumpster Humour here!

Thanks, I needed a good laugh!

SL

Mission accomplished.

Hey SL,
Please run this ZERG/MEIM device thru your CAE, build a prototype and prove it in the lab, then don't show us the results like you did with Holcomb/LinGen.

Clown show extraordinar.
bi

bistander

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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #35 on: May 12, 2023, 02:19:00 PM »
p.s.:

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Kango+iida&IN=&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search

Look the hydraulic energy converter,kinetical, the applied formula and effect
Change the blades,natural energy converter,with a.DC,b.AC,c.pulsed DC motors,electro-motive energy converter !
Change blades,ccw-blade with ccw AC motor and cw-blade with cw AC motor
DC motors are ccw or cw direction devices,included generator function !
AC motor ,compared DC,functional limitations !
With Capacitor ?
Steinmetz ? Gabriel Kron ?
Logic school !
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=Carl+Steinmetz&oq=Carl+Steinmetz&aqs=heirloom-srp..0l5
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=gabriel+kron&oq=gabriel+kron+&aqs=heirloom-srp.1.0l5

R&D level !
Max.to Min.: His method of system decomposition and solution called Diakoptics
Counterview : Min.to Max.: Puzzle-piece to Ready Puzzle-Image,without missing parts,and patientia


OMG so many discoverer with their discoveries,2023 many of them " mainstream death",non named : forgotten !
https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/solvay-conference-probably-intelligent-picture-ever-taken-1927/
HushHush-/RushRush-society 2023

Btw : Fluid/Hydraulic energy converter,a.kinetic b.EMF-MMF shaft output couple
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=3&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19981222&CC=JP&NR=H10341560A&KC=A#
Total C.O.P. ? Theoretical,by formula,physical - by industrial efficiencies and work out quality ?

For all of Us net-user public :
http://www.rexresearch.com/kawai/1kawai.htm
Re-/discovering Our real world situation change interests ? Motivation ? Barrier ?
The Minor-/Maior-self-estimation-complex,in Best performance  ?
The Lady O. society will show Us the REAL PROGRESS VELOCITY ancient 10 years projects in ≤ 1year/month !
Ultra-Learning,Ultra-Working ,Ultra-Efficiency
IT never sleeps

Steinmetz,Kron : in easier demonstration -also theoretical calculation and measurement error by using pure DC-formulas like P=VI
in non-/net grid frequency band AC and/or im-/ex- pulsed -variable- DC technology- I recommend

https://www.google.com/search?q=Philip+Kanarev&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m

EMF and MMF
" BEMF and BMMF" ! ? Really ?
GEMK  und GMMK
translates
with
CEMF and CMMF
FB-EMF : partial feedback cycle
G.egen = C.ounter
C-ccw and cw real time parallel EMF/MMF cycle
" .....And/or .... " Logistics

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=Professor+Felix+Ehrenhaft&oq=Professor+Felix+Ehrenhaft&aqs=heirloom-srp..
ZP=Vacuum Field cycle

Electro-/ and/or Magneto-Statik Electret Magnetret Captret

Static : related Physics https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statics
              related Economy : https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A9on_Walras
              1:1= Nullsumme   = augmented reality
              to Relativistic Economy https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-642-74285-9_8
              Eherne Zinsgesetz or Eternal Tax Law by C.C.v.Weizsaecker(I reed about it 1987,wiwo-printmagazine)

https://www.puls24.at/news/digital/ki-godfather-kuendigt-bei-google-um-vor-kuenstlicher-intelligenz-zu-warnen/296225
                                                     IN A.I. I TRUST  ,IT IS ME SIMILAR BUT NOT SAME
                                                     I AM https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzzylogik -er,applicant
                                                     Without mental frontiers,mental barriers
                                                     Brainstoarm(Faith Popcorn : "Report" )-er
                                                     I PREFER METAVIEW,SPACE AND TIME AND OBJECT RELATED

Hello,
Thanks for your reply.
What is your point?
Regards,
bi

lancaIV

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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #36 on: May 12, 2023, 04:17:28 PM »
Hey,bistander
#35 is only (p.s.-)part II

to #33 blue text field  comment/respond-response/counterview !

Good Morning,bistander
Zero force motor....?  The whole purpose of a motor is to produce force (torque).

(torque) not alone,but (torque x RPM),for comparing the measured results,pony brake teste et cet.


In thread title: generator nullifies EMF....? The whole point of a generator is to produce EMF.

Really,not EMF-conversion ? Beside EMF,MMF !

Doubles efficiency....? Currently high quality electric machinery in the kW or larger sizes, at rated, run 90% efficient. 100kW or larger often >95%. Double that to 180-190%? Come on, really?



90% as peak efficiency and the generator its average efficiency ?
Observe the progressive in-/de-crease,Affinity laws !,from energy in-/con-verter,rotative or non-motive

It is a DC or AC output,by AC the positive AND negative magnetic field conversion ?
Lenz and Fleming,ccw and cw





Let's see what this guy has. If he can prove, or convincingly demonstrate something of value, I could be very interested and in a position to invest.

Time will tell and show it what this and other guies/guys has/have re-/discovered 

wmbr
OCWL

bi


SolarLab

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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #37 on: May 12, 2023, 08:13:00 PM »
OT - removed, sorry!  :)

« Last Edit: May 13, 2023, 12:16:08 AM by SolarLab »

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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #38 on: May 12, 2023, 08:49:55 PM »
Hey biStander.

Got something to contribute?

Do your best to do it in a way that it can be received well, or...

Question ?

What makes you think that the rediscovery of something all ready known by others
is not valuable ?

For one thing, how that rediscover approached and came to that discovery is
valuable in and of its self, to both,  the discoverer and to those with whom it has
been shared.

Given things rightly.
The teacher learns more than the student.

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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #39 on: May 13, 2023, 12:04:06 AM »
Hi guys,

I contribute in my way with facts and truths. Those that promote other things often get upset when they can't find those big boy pants. I have shown and proven just any many OU, FE or excess energy as anyone else here. That is zero.

Rediscover? Knowledge? Learn from your mistakes? Or from mistakes of others? Why not from success of many? When you start the topic with nonsensical statements that are easily recognizable as ignorant by anybody having basic knowledge and understanding of terminology in the subject, followed by a patent full of gibberish, you deserve to be called out.

Show us the in lab proof of your device SL.

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    Dissappointing Results

With deep remorse we must now be conclude that sustained Overunity, FE, CE (or what ever you want to call it) is extremely unlikely from any Dally, Shark, Ruslan type device.
_______

Summary

These two questions have appeared time and again in excess energy discussions as far back as the subject itself.

 1. Where does the excess energy come from?

 2. How does this excess energy couple into a system like the Kapanadze or Ruslan scheme?

SL
_______

Our latest batch of detailed CAE runs were inconclusive at best. 

Remember posting those SL? When are you going to give up on Holcomb?

And Willy?
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   Second, it is up to you (the presenter) to prove or show experimentally
any O.U. results you might claim.

Third, It is not up to others (i.e. bistander) to disprove O.U. claims.  It is reasonable
that the burden of proof rest upon any claimant of what is extra ordinary, to demonstrate
and CLEARLY AND PLAINLY describe their method or device,

and

to show measurements along with the methods of how those measurements were taken.

 best wishes
          floor

That's all I seek. Proof of the claim. It never happens. So along the way I call BS when I see it. What's wrong with that?

If certain individuals really had big boy pants, they could appreciate my contribution.

Instead talk about motors without force or torque.
Generators with EMF nullified.
Doubled efficiency.

Tell me the value there.
bi

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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #40 on: May 13, 2023, 12:26:10 AM »
Hi guys,

I contribute in my way with facts and truths. Those that promote other things often get upset when they can't find those big boy pants. I have shown and proven just any many OU, FE or excess energy as anyone else here. That is zero.

Rediscover? Knowledge? Learn from your mistakes? Or from mistakes of others? Why not from success of many? When you start the topic with nonsensical statements that are easily recognizable as ignorant by anybody having basic knowledge and understanding of terminology in the subject, followed by a patent full of gibberish, you deserve to be called out.

Show us the in lab proof of your device SL.

Remember posting those SL? When are you going to give up on Holcomb?

And Willy?
That's all I seek. Proof of the claim. It never happens. So along the way I call BS when I see it. What's wrong with that?

If certain individuals really had big boy pants, they could appreciate my contribution.

Instead talk about motors without force or torque.
Generators with EMF nullified.
Doubled efficiency.

Tell me the value there.
bi


There is no proof - you win - Nothing anyone ever presents will serve as proof from what I can see, so,
There is no proof! Simple enough for me, at least - therefore no more time will be spent in the Dumpster!

Call it what you will, dance around, claim you were right all along, etc. but for you there is no proof!

And for me there is no more waisting time on presenting what I considered valuable information and
education.

You'll have to do the "proofs" yourself from now on! If you can even figure out what a "proof" is...

Have a good one,

SL
Amazing how the IGNORANCE of a few can really Fuck Shit Up - but it's becoming more common every day
here - it's turning into a real Dumpster - if this is your idea of OU discovery and development - you're wrong!
 
However, there are other (much better and more professional) avenues where the work will carry on.

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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #41 on: May 13, 2023, 01:12:32 AM »


There is no proof - you win - Nothing anyone ever presents will serve as proof from what I can see, so,
There is no proof! Simple enough for me, at least - therefore no more time will be spent in the Dumpster!

Call it what you will, dance around, claim you were right all along, etc. but for you there is no proof!

And for me there is no more waisting time on presenting what I considered valuable information and
education.

You'll have to do the "proofs" yourself from now on! If you can even figure out what a "proof" is...

Have a good one,

SL
Amazing how the IGNORANCE of a few can really Fuck Shit Up - but it's becoming more common every day
here - it's turning into a real Dumpster - if this is your idea of OU discovery and development - you're wrong!
 
However, there are other (much better and more professional) avenues where the work will carry on.

Hey SL,
Got any pants on at all. Certainly not big boy's.
Why get upset with me? Just show your in-lab proof. Even convincing demonstration, you know, with actual instruments in real time, with witnesses, would suffice for now. After all that you posted, never a photo of hardware. Did you even start a real prototype? Using GO steel, or did you figure that out? Like you knew what you were doing.
And I was hoping to see your CAE for ZERG.
bi

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Quote
Replacing KWs with gauss creates a whole new math for motor efficiency. We are not talking about increasing the motor efficiency by just one or two percent. It’s much higher than that. It really is the reinvention of the electric motor.” – David Joseph.

Maybe your analysis will explain this. Right along with energy gain from the BH curve.

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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #42 on: May 13, 2023, 01:48:33 AM »

Gentlemen
Here is an example of how a moderated builders topic would be put to good use
A member I-ron took the time to fabricate…build and share his work..
And original claimant arrives to engage ,


And shortly thereafter circular arguments developed,
Fortunately it seems the inventor is willing to engage!


These type interactions are one reason we need to maintain (or some attempt)
At providing a respectful and orderly environment!


Our host has this as part of his dream here ( one dream most serious members share)
That is not to say we throw caution to the wind regarding claims .


This forum and surrounding open source FE community is chock full of
Talent and resources, our hosts 30 plus years of service to this cause has
Made this possible…( here)
We owe him the respect to do the best we can !


Yes it is a work in progress,( becoming better at hosting these type claims)
However it has been done for many many years in open source research and development .
 The LENR community being one asset we have direct involvement with!
And tons of other people assets and resources.


This topic and how to proceed is being discussed off forum ATM
Just as an example of possible options to increase signal to noise ratios.
And do a better job!
Respectfully
Chet K
« Last Edit: May 13, 2023, 07:26:04 PM by hartiberlin »

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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #43 on: May 13, 2023, 02:10:40 AM »
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 Chris posted this yesterday - Last edited yesterday

My Friends,

You know, I see in many posts on other forums, what I would expect two or three year olds to be posting, and these are mature age Men and Women, WTF!!!

https://www.aboveunity.com/thread/why-idiots-flood-the-forums/?order=all#comment-e6ff76f5-dd52-4e8b-8f6d-afff0165e423


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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #44 on: May 13, 2023, 02:36:00 AM »
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 Chris posted this yesterday - Last edited yesterday

My Friends,

You know, I see in many posts on other forums, what I would expect two or three year olds to be posting, and these are mature age Men and Women, WTF!!!

https://www.aboveunity.com/thread/why-idiots-flood-the-forums/?order=all#comment-e6ff76f5-dd52-4e8b-8f6d-afff0165e423

SL,
I criticize bad science. You belittle people. See a difference?
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