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Author Topic: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"  (Read 10054 times)

i_ron

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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2023, 05:37:07 PM »


I am a visual person and much prefer pictures and well notated graphics.
So once I figured out that the strange blob over the coil was not a magnet
but the inventors way of showing the Lenz component the light came on.
This is not a variable reluctance device such as the Hildenbrand but closer
akin to Thane Heins where a more convenient path is provided for the
Lenz component and even Naudin's  delayed Lenz.


How it works:  The passing magnet imparts it's flux to the frame, coil core
and shunt. If a load is placed on the coil then the Lenz component
will take the easiest shortest route through the shunt. Simple as that.


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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2023, 06:17:28 PM »


I am a visual person and much prefer pictures and well notated graphics.
So once I figured out that the strange blob over the coil was not a magnet
but the inventors way of showing the Lenz component the light came on.
This is not a variable reluctance device such as the Hildenbrand but closer
akin to Thane Heins where a more convenient path is provided for the
Lenz component and even Naudin's  delayed Lenz.


How it works:  The passing magnet imparts it's flux to the frame, coil core
and shunt. If a load is placed on the coil then the Lenz component
will take the easiest shortest route through the shunt. Simple as that.


Ron

Hi Ron,
Check the cut/paste of the claims which I posted. It specifically says it is a PM. Here's the part for easy viewing:

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a magnetic field conduit made up of at least one piece of permeable material attached to the outside of the said coil and permanent magnet ;
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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2023, 01:41:27 AM »
Hi Ron,
Check the cut/paste of the claims which I posted. It specifically says it is a PM. Here's the part for easy viewing:

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Yes, you are correct, 400 is a magnet, thanks for the correction.


Ron

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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2023, 03:17:52 AM »
You're welcome Ron.
Also, regarding PMs, notice their quote:
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ZERG, a 150kw AC magnet-less generator was successfully tested and verified by third party Intertek, a company that started with Thomas Edison.
Besides the famous name drop, the magnet-less feature excludes that machine from patent claims.... no IP protection there.
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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2023, 12:54:59 AM »
I threw together a small POC.
There is no additional draw when loading or shorting.
 
However the output is so slight, just over 8 volts no load and 1 volt over a 300 ohm load resistor that that is no surprise.

you can see item number 400 in this shot, 0.9 volt AC no item 400 and 1 volt AC with item 400.
 
Fair no load scope shot, reducing to a nice sine wave under load.


So the question is how to get more output? I have the coil core and the shunt the same dimensions, bad? The shunt should be way smaller?


Ron



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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2023, 04:24:17 AM »
i_ron
I threw together a small POC.

Thanks for sharing.
The structure you made is very beautiful.

I also designed a structure before.
The stuff that comes out is crude.
Also the output is weak.


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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2023, 06:25:01 PM »
i_ron
I threw together a small POC.

Thanks for sharing.
The structure you made is very beautiful.

I also designed a structure before.
The stuff that comes out is crude.
Also the output is weak.


Thanks for your interest panyuming and taking the time to reply.


Ron

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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2023, 06:38:02 PM »
I threw together a small POC.
There is no additional draw when loading or shorting.
 
However the output is so slight, just over 8 volts no load and 1 volt over a 300 ohm load resistor that that is no surprise.

you can see item number 400 in this shot, 0.9 volt AC no item 400 and 1 volt AC with item 400.
 
Fair no load scope shot, reducing to a nice sine wave under load.


So the question is how to get more output? I have the coil core and the shunt the same dimensions, bad? The shunt should be way smaller?


Ron


My conclusions:



As Hector says, in perhaps more dramatic prose, this patent is a failure. Just common sense rely, if you provide two paths for the flux that induces the voltage then the larger area will hog the flux. In figure ten, of the patent, for example, item 30, the shunt or bypass seems to be twice the area of the coil core, ergo, it will take twice the flux. Just an idea of mine but when you load the coil it hinders the flux so that even more flux goes through the shunt.


Ron

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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2023, 05:27:49 PM »



I did manage to get 8 watts out but the 12 volt  Bosch drive motor was drawing 2 1/2 amps so not really a winning game.


Ron

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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2023, 08:25:05 PM »
Ron
Much gratitude for having a look at this ..
I will reach out for claimant this week just for clarity…
On another topic
https://overunity.com/19405/magnetic-flux-motor-just-patented-that-creates-its-own-electricity/new/#new


Your impressions or suggestions?
Are always appreciated…
Respectfully
Chet K

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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2023, 09:17:20 PM »
So let me jump in here and help out. I want to first say I like the healthy skepticism.  I like the denial even better. Because it was that which allowed me to invent it first. Like they say if it were easy everyone would be doing it.

1) Z.E.R.G  and M.E.I.M are not the same technologies, although they share a similar magnetic field bending manipulation. Similar but not the same.
2) Z.E.R.G does not require magnets, M.E.I.M. does and MEIM has to, although the exact architecture design which is not public (Patent is, look under Magnetic Electric Impulse motor.) re-magnetizes the magnets in operation and they will out last the structure, so recyclable. Nice feature in our green world.
3) MEIM uses power only 50% of the time, which is power savings #1. Power savings #2 in the power phase the fields of a stator magnet is combined with the stator coils, so super power phase. Power savings #3, the stator magnet engages the rotor by its self in the power off phase, so unlike a pulse motor, there is no magnet-less glide phase.
4) ZERG BEMF is assimilated into a natural occurring magnetic field, so eliminated. So that's why load does not effect torque. The higher the BEMF the higher the other field. Lens law is firmly intact, and is very important to the process.
5) Last November we produced a 150kw magnet-less AC generator, with a normal sinewave which was 3rd party verified, US DOE reviewed with not only no torque, but actually had a small extra kick to it.
6) Yes ZERG still needs a drive motor, but any drive motor only has to overcome the normal mechanical resistance and not load resistance. So 15HP 150 kwh that kind of thing.   

The technology is 3rd party verified by Intertek out of Dallas, which is one of the worlds most respected companies for this work, and many of you will know them already. The US Department of Energy reviewed both technologies and they not us called it a king maker. They have gone so far as to introduce us to the industry, having fully proven it in their labs. One email is on our web page, and you can see it in various articles but we have more.

The MEIM motor was built for a US interest to replace the Mach -E motor. Its numbers will be out soon.

I hope this answer your questions, and thank you for asking them on this blog and your comments as well. 14 years ago I stood on your side and asked similar questions. Now its here, and I know how hard that is to believe. But this is 2023, Kind of think its about time, right?

TY
Dave
Feel free to contact me with any more questions through our web site.


 

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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2023, 07:36:06 AM »
So let me jump in here and help out. I want to first say I like the healthy skepticism.  I like the denial even better. Because it was that which allowed me to invent it first. Like they say if it were easy everyone would be doing it.

1) Z.E.R.G  and M.E.I.M are not the same technologies, although they share a similar magnetic field bending manipulation. Similar but not the same.
2) Z.E.R.G does not require magnets, M.E.I.M. does and MEIM has to, although the exact architecture design which is not public (Patent is, look under Magnetic Electric Impulse motor.) re-magnetizes the magnets in operation and they will out last the structure, so recyclable. Nice feature in our green world.
3) MEIM uses power only 50% of the time, which is power savings #1. Power savings #2 in the power phase the fields of a stator magnet is combined with the stator coils, so super power phase. Power savings #3, the stator magnet engages the rotor by its self in the power off phase, so unlike a pulse motor, there is no magnet-less glide phase.
4) ZERG BEMF is assimilated into a natural occurring magnetic field, so eliminated. So that's why load does not effect torque. The higher the BEMF the higher the other field. Lens law is firmly intact, and is very important to the process.
5) Last November we produced a 150kw magnet-less AC generator, with a normal sinewave which was 3rd party verified, US DOE reviewed with not only no torque, but actually had a small extra kick to it.
6) Yes ZERG still needs a drive motor, but any drive motor only has to overcome the normal mechanical resistance and not load resistance. So 15HP 150 kwh that kind of thing.   

The technology is 3rd party verified by Intertek out of Dallas, which is one of the worlds most respected companies for this work, and many of you will know them already. The US Department of Energy reviewed both technologies and they not us called it a king maker. They have gone so far as to introduce us to the industry, having fully proven it in their labs. One email is on our web page, and you can see it in various articles but we have more.

The MEIM motor was built for a US interest to replace the Mach -E motor. Its numbers will be out soon.

I hope this answer your questions, and thank you for asking them on this blog and your comments as well. 14 years ago I stood on your side and asked similar questions. Now its here, and I know how hard that is to believe. But this is 2023, Kind of think its about time, right?

TY
Dave
Feel free to contact me with any more questions through our web site.

Hi Dave,

I guess I should not have searched Google for zerg. But found your web site and see this
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Request a copy of our 3rd party bench test data done by internationally recognized industry leaders. No NDA required just fill out the form and we will get back to you with the details.

We can't wait to show you what we have been working on.

I'm reluctant to distribute personal information required on that form. Please post and show those details here.
Thanks,
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Or send details to me via PM(private message). Click on my username. If desired, I'll agree to keep that information to myself. Thank you.
« Last Edit: May 11, 2023, 05:05:23 PM by bistander »

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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #27 on: May 11, 2023, 10:12:28 PM »
So let me jump in here and help out. I want to first say I like the healthy skepticism.  I like the denial even better. Because it was that which allowed me to invent it first. Like they say if it were easy everyone would be doing it.

1) Z.E.R.G  and M.E.I.M are not the same technologies, although they share a similar magnetic field bending manipulation. Similar but not the same.
2) Z.E.R.G does not require magnets, M.E.I.M. does and MEIM has to, although the exact architecture design which is not public (Patent is, look under Magnetic Electric Impulse motor.) re-magnetizes the magnets in operation and they will out last the structure, so recyclable. Nice feature in our green world.
3) MEIM uses power only 50% of the time, which is power savings #1. Power savings #2 in the power phase the fields of a stator magnet is combined with the stator coils, so super power phase. Power savings #3, the stator magnet engages the rotor by its self in the power off phase, so unlike a pulse motor, there is no magnet-less glide phase.
4) ZERG BEMF is assimilated into a natural occurring magnetic field, so eliminated. So that's why load does not effect torque. The higher the BEMF the higher the other field. Lens law is firmly intact, and is very important to the process.
5) Last November we produced a 150kw magnet-less AC generator, with a normal sinewave which was 3rd party verified, US DOE reviewed with not only no torque, but actually had a small extra kick to it.
6) Yes ZERG still needs a drive motor, but any drive motor only has to overcome the normal mechanical resistance and not load resistance. So 15HP 150 kwh that kind of thing.   

The technology is 3rd party verified by Intertek out of Dallas, which is one of the worlds most respected companies for this work, and many of you will know them already. The US Department of Energy reviewed both technologies and they not us called it a king maker. They have gone so far as to introduce us to the industry, having fully proven it in their labs. One email is on our web page, and you can see it in various articles but we have more.

The MEIM motor was built for a US interest to replace the Mach -E motor. Its numbers will be out soon.

I hope this answer your questions, and thank you for asking them on this blog and your comments as well. 14 years ago I stood on your side and asked similar questions. Now its here, and I know how hard that is to believe. But this is 2023, Kind of think its about time, right?

TY
Dave
Feel free to contact me with any more questions through our web site.
Welcome, Dave!

15hp in, 150 KW out? COP=13? Really? That's not doubling input efficiency as I put in the title and understood it.

Yeah, 15hp>150 kW that would turns a measly PHEV battery (5-15 kWh typically) into a super long range BEV energy source.
For a Mach-E that has an average power demand of ~15 KW for EPA rated consumption equalling roughly a 80 kph/50 mph cruise, that doesn't do much. However, you get to charge the battery to almost full at up to fast charging speeds and then switch the system down until battery is nearly empty.  Then the battery never needs external charging.

The real cool thing would be to arrange a network to sell electricity to the grid at a fair at. Park the ZERG equipped vehicle the average 22-23 hours a day and sell whatever output you're comfortable to produce non-stop, up to 140 kW. A €0.20/kWh, that'd be €28/hr. Build enough such parking spots in the right places, build enough ZERG vehicles, and the grid gets decentralized like solar and wind and hydro never could.

Any chance for a forum member to get "press" access to your facilities and do some due diligence fiddling and measuring before we all get a but too exited? :-D

e2matrix

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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #28 on: May 11, 2023, 10:53:03 PM »
Another Zero force type motor from well known builder 'Skycollection' :  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qcxSPDbC6M

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Re: ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"
« Reply #29 on: May 11, 2023, 11:37:24 PM »
Another Zero force type motor from well known builder 'Skycollection' :  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qcxSPDbC6M
A two year old video, in a topic of a new commercial one of which the inventor just joined the discussion ;-)