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### Author Topic: SGWN Generator 300 KW  (Read 14983 times)

#### sm0ky2

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##### Re: SGWN Generator 300 KW
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2017, 06:39:41 PM »
That could work, though I don't know that the
Generator alone would get back enough to spin
Up the gyro again.
If we knew where it would stop
We could catch the weight when it flopped back down.

And the maniac in the long self-convoluting webpage
Is correct. I'm not sure why he has so much trouble with math
There are rotational situations where, in order for momentum
to be conserved, certain inertial energies are hard to explain.

If you think in terms of "equal and opposite reaction" to an
Applied Force - you could relate it to a glass jar under pressure.
A light tap from a tiny sharp object relates to an an explosion of
released potential energy.
The same can occur when a force is applied to a rotating object.
Angular momentum is like a battery. Fly wheels have been used for
Centuries to store rotational energy.
When an applied force causes the gyro to change its dimensional
plane of rotation, angular momentum is transferred to another plane.
This change of planes can be of the order of a plank length in magnitude
A force will occur at an alternate plane at each incremental change.

In practice, gyros are precessed in large increments we can observe.
And we restrict their motion to the normal 90-degree planes.
There are in reality a countably infinite number of planes.
Rotational forces occur along all of them.
So we must think in terms of a three dimensional force.
Equal and opposite to a point mass moving at the circumference
Of the spinning gyro.
Each point of mass creates its own opposing force to the applied force.
And by following a number of points around the wheel we can estimate
The path of the average force applied to any number of axial domains.
A gyroscope with infinite gimbals, one for every conceivable plane.
Then we could see the true reflection of the force we apply.

I hope I didn't complicate it by trying to simplify the explanation
The device in the patent is valid but I think the principal should be
Improved on, in terms of harnessing all possible energy until the
Gyro stops.

That would give a direct comparison of input to output.
What it took to spin it up, vs what we get out of it.

#### sm0ky2

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##### Re: SGWN Generator 300 KW
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2017, 06:48:56 PM »
These planes of rotation are universal
They extend through space and time
Allowing for curvature over great distances
Or intense energy densities
But at small distances, those humanly obtainable
The planes can be considered linear
As the earth rotates and orbits through space
And coincidentally the solar system and galaxy doing
The same
The plane of rotation of the gyro changes.
Even if it's physical angle to a point on Earth's surface
Does not change.
Precessional forces still occur.
The primary observable force is caused by our 24-hr rotation
More distant astronomical events take longer times to occur
Thus the change in planes takes place more slowly

An earth based gyroscopic precession is not only possible
It is inevitable
If you try to keep the gyro perfectly vertical and spinning for 24 hrs
The energy it takes to keep the gyro vertical
Is the energy output of the rotational system.

#### sm0ky2

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##### Re: SGWN Generator 300 KW
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2017, 07:46:29 PM »
Gravitational based gyroscopic precession is more of
A one-directional event than a cyclical one.
The force applied by gravity is always down.
The reactive force of the gyro is a factor of the rotational
velocity of a point mass at the circumference of the gyro
With an applied force accelerating it at 9.8ms/s.
If not restricted, the center of mass will lower and
Precession will occur at a ratio relative to the drop in height.
If restricted in a particular dimension, the center of mass
Will raise in height, and the same will hold true.

Contrary to the standard scientific description of this
Gravity has nothing to do with it. Other than applying the
acceleration force.
The reactive force of the gyro is in a vector that leads to
The center of rotating mass to be perpendicular to its'
Support axis. Regardless of where that axis is in space
Or within a gravitational potential well.

Vertical gyro can go horizontal, or a horizontal gyro can go
vertical. It doesn't have to be 90-degrees we just do that
to mask certain effects from public view. Not "we" as in us
But "we" as humans have a tendency to keep secrets from
the general public, by hiding them in plain sight or masking
them into obscurity by an overwhelming amount of useless
information. Knowledge is power. If we all had equal knowledge
Who would be in charge?

I suppose if we wanted to we could precess a heavy gyro in
the vertical plane like turning the standard example 90-degrees
The gyro doesn't care about gravity, it's no different than me
Pushing my finger on it to cause the precession.

What gravity does is provide a force in one vector
Regardless of which way the gyro is facing
Internally the gyro remains the same, but from our
perspective it could be used as an advantage.

gyros can produce an external force in response to
An applied force, a gravitational force, or a rotational
force (such as the earth rotating or a gyro on the surface
of a rotating sphere or ring)
There may be other ways to apply a desired force, via
magnetism or electromagnetism, static electric attraction
or repulsion, or other things.

When we coordinate restricted multi-axial precession,
One reactive force, caused by a change in rotational plane,
Can result in a change in planes. This causes another
reactive force in another plane, and so on.

#### sm0ky2

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##### Re: SGWN Generator 300 KW
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2017, 08:03:12 PM »
The way we define our current geometrical theory
A circle is divided into 360-degrees.
For the simplification of discussion I will use the
Current Model. Not a more advanced model, so as
To avoid incomprehendable confusion.

If a circular motion represents 360-degrees, each of
these degrees is associated with a plane of rotation
Perpendicular to an axis. Thereby, an axis 90-degrees
to the first, has also 360-plane associated with it.
The same is said about the 3rd axis, that is 90-degrees
to both of those.

That is 360 x 360 x 360 = 46,656,000 possible planes
Of rotation that a gyro can exist on. (current model)
If we allowed 46.656M degrees of freedom
Our processing gyro would begin to resemble a proton.
The external forces of which are the integration of the Euler
mechanism, and are identical to the works of Feynman.

#### sm0ky2

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##### Re: SGWN Generator 300 KW
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2017, 08:04:50 PM »
I don't know how we would physically attach 46M gimbals.......

#### sm0ky2

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##### Re: SGWN Generator 300 KW
« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2017, 08:51:02 PM »
Not exactly "free floating" but I have allowed for
Several degrees of freedom in this video.

The support chain is offset from the center of axis.
This causes a force differential within the gravitational
domain. Each mass point around the wheel experiences
a different force depending upon its' relation to the axial
force. Which is away from the chain. Or if you want to think
if it as a force on the bottom of the axis towards the chain.
Either way the wheel "wobbles" in space.
Also the chain is 'rigid' - does not like to twist

https://youtu.be/85P2i048Qe8

In this second video, I add a weight to the wheel.
(It's actually the reflector that was originally on it!)
To exaggerate the gravitational differential.
Here, as the wheel slows down to where gravity can really
start to affect things, you see the wobblyness increase but
Also the entire assembly wheel chain and all begin to orbit
in an elliptical path. Like a Foucault pendulum.

https://youtu.be/43t2TPEjnQg

#### sm0ky2

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##### Re: SGWN Generator 300 KW
« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2017, 09:09:24 PM »
For each of the conventional 360-degrees of rotation
The momentum of a point mass on the gyros circumference
Is in the vector that it was traveling in the degree prior to
the one you are examining.
By this you can determine the reactive force at that degree.

In reality there are more than 360 degrees, some number
approaching infinity, we will know whenever the computer
finishes solving Pi. We use 360 because smaller angles than
that humans don't really care to deal with.
And the math was already done for us so we built on that.

Placing forces on different places of the gyro, and restricting the
reactive force in certain vectors, we can generate very large forces
In other certain vectors.

#### e2matrix

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##### Re: SGWN Generator 300 KW
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2017, 05:06:56 PM »
I haven't followed every detail of this but they seem to be talking about Natural gas and installing these units in the ground.   Do these need Natural gas to operate?   Apologies if that's a dumb question but I didn't seem to understand why they were talking about Natural gas in the last part of the video.
I watched the 2nd video now and understand the core process but still am not sure why they were talking about NG in the first one.

#### quartz

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##### Re: SGWN Generator 300 KW
« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2019, 03:22:07 PM »
Hello
does anyone have news of this technology?

#### quartz

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##### Re: SGWN Generator 300 KW
« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2023, 06:50:26 PM »

Hello

The machine has continued its path it seems that it has found a base in Italy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eI-CsScnaLw

#### quartz

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##### Re: SGWN Generator 300 KW
« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2023, 08:03:37 PM »

Good morning,
I found a patent from 1935 that describes a system that exploits gyroscopic precession to produce motor torque.
This torque is impulsive and bidirectional. A direction rectifier must be added to obtain a unidirectional direction of rotation. https://patents.google.com/patent/US1992457A/en?oq=power+transmission+ANDERSON+1992457

#### nix85

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##### Re: SGWN Generator 300 KW
« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2023, 09:33:27 PM »
Reminds me of Skinner and also grav trap.

https://youtu.be/zBrnxadM1v8?t=4312

Also a laser seeing inside body, no x rays, after grav trap, interesting.

Also to remind of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yheVAF-Zrvo

#### perpetual

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##### Re: SGWN Generator 300 KW
« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2023, 05:26:39 PM »
Altho they claim system is based on a gyroscope i believe it's but a giant Skinner replica

Also nicely explains the cone shape

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTWwp5qUY3U

BTW yesterday i looked up their company GRAVITON H&P LTD

It was dissolved in April 2018., they probably either killed them or silenced them

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/10469672/filing-history

Nix