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sm0ky2

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Re: Another failed project
« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2023, 09:25:40 AM »
35 yrs of magnetics, as it pertains to overunity research:
I’ve found that for energy to be “produced”/ manifested / realized
The magnetic field interactions must compliment one another.
The forcing of magnetic repulsion or attraction is an inherent energy drain.


To explain what i mean in better terms, from the perspective of the stationary magnets:
If the rotating magnets are approaching, the interaction should be attractive
If the rotating magnets are departing, the interaction should be repulsive.
(complimentary)


“neutral” or null zones should be targeted towards the transition areas.


sticky points, cogging, etc. results from uncomplimentary interactions.


That’s about as simple as i can make it.
If the magnets help each other energy can be infinite,
if they work against one another energy can be negative infinity.




SolarLab

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Re: Another failed project
« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2023, 10:26:57 AM »
Keep in mind "Electromagnetics" can be controlled - thus they can
truncate the magnetic process at will, unlike permanent magnets.



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Re: Another failed project
« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2023, 05:01:59 PM »
The claim that

"The magnetic field interactions must compliment one another.
The forcing of magnetic repulsion or attraction is an inherent energy drain."

is wrong. Altho i failed replicating Engel, there are many for whom this principle
worked. Apart for the already linked one from Pakistan above, to list a few.

Turn the volume down when opening the second and third video, they're loud.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0LjPc0lxfM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zI7gMv8qpw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_CFLL68aZQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4FEba4kQb0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uZDk56Do-Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtaRKd9rmj0

And along the similar lines recently published, also force-making/breaking the flux with large energy gain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU2JyE9h5o8

And then there is Loriga magnetic repulsion motor, simply periodically lifting and lowering the stator permanent magnet with big energy gain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg4mVFP209Y

And so on

"“neutral” or null zones should be targeted towards the transition areas." Wrong. In all examples above, force-making/breaking the flux results in overunity. That quote is true for magnet-only motors only. And it is obvious and perfectly assumed that in magnet-only motors magnet should be attracted to a point, transition it neutrally and then be repelled (or at least not attracted) meaning no drag at transitional points, that is what bypassing sticky point means.

"sticky points, cogging, etc. results from uncomplimentary interactions."

You keep confusing the Engel and similar principles with magnet-only motors. They are very different. In Engel-like motors aka magnetic-coupling overunity motors, sticky points are a constant thing, yet overunity results. If what you say was true it could not happen. So that is true only for magnet-only motors. It is obvious and perfectly assumed that in magnet-only
motors rotor should be attracted on approach and repelled when leaving.

As i said, sticky points relate to magnet-only motors only and they are a story unto themselves.
There are many ways to overcome the sticky point many of which are shown in my perpetual
motion playlist. Clever combination of magnets, iron and geometry can bypass sticky point, that is about as
simple as i can make it.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLS6CmWwu5VGl5al_O94rmKNiuSZs7Loz1

And last claim

"If the magnets help each other energy can be infinite,
if they work against one another energy can be negative infinity."

is also wrong and does not hold for coupling-overunity or magnet-only motors. As i said, in coupling-overunity, forced making/breaking flux is used. In magnet-only motors various clever combinations of both magnetic attraction (to iron) and magnetic repulsion are used.

May those with eyes to see see.

...

Obviously electromagnetic fields can be controlled, many overunity devices rely on electromagnet manipulating the fields, neutralizing permanent magnets etc.
« Last Edit: June 17, 2023, 11:17:36 PM by nix85 »

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Re: Another failed project
« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2023, 11:46:18 PM »
I personally think this one is totally fake.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A9UGVTDeto

at 2:18 mark he drops the "supposed magnet" that looks like a tic-tac container all taped up.  It doesn't sound like a solid magnet to me.  It's about the right size for a battery to fit with a sensor (or reed) and an inductor. 

Looks 100% bogus to me... 

I can even see the lines where the tic-tac bottle top lid opens through the tape.

nix85

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Re: Another failed project
« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2023, 11:57:09 PM »
Tic-tac bottle looool. Funniest thing i've read today. And you even "see" it open.

If that was a tic-tac bottle it would have to be filled with sand or something to hit the table so hard when tipped over.

Secondly, if it was tic-tac bottle how come it is vibrating as magnets pass by at 2:50.

It is not a tic-tac bottle, it is a magnet and video is real.

As he says in the comments "The wheel and shaft is the old vcd player head."

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Re: Another failed project
« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2023, 11:59:51 PM »
if it was tic-tac bottle how come it is vibrating as magnets pass by at 2:50.

Because the inductor inside the tic tac bottle is firing - repelling the rotor.  LOL..

If that was a tic-tac bottle it would have to be filled with sand or something to hit the table so hard when tipped over.

It's filled with a battery, sensor and a copper coil.

I am not trying to get on your case or nothing.  I just think that one is fake as hell.  If people repeat the experiment and prove it's real, I will happily eat crow. 

nix85

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Re: Another failed project
« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2023, 12:16:06 AM »
Because the inductor inside the tic tac bottle is firing - repelling the rotor.  LOL..

LOL, there is no tic tac bottle, inductor or a battery. It's a magnet.

Quote
It's filled with a battery, sensor and a copper coil.

I am not trying to get on your case or nothing.  I just think that one is fake as hell.  If people repeat the experiment and prove it's real, I will happily eat crow.

No it's not a tic tac box filled with a battery, sensor and a copper coil, it's a magnet.
I don't mind you being skeptical but don't make claims.
No it's not fake, but you're free to believe it is if you like.

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Re: Another failed project
« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2023, 12:54:02 AM »
I don't mind you being skeptical but don't make claims.

huh???    Let me remind you of my words;

"I personally think this one is totally fake."
"Looks 100% bogus to me... "
"It doesn't sound like a solid magnet to me"
"I just think that one is fake as hell"


Now your words;

"it is a magnet and video is real."
" there is no tic tac bottle, inductor or a battery. It's a magnet."
"No it's not fake"


Every post I clearly stated this is my opinion.  And every post it is you that makes claims.

And just as a side note on "Red Flags"- the channel you reference and believe apparently cracked the V gate several ways, has several perpetual magnet motors, and has Overunity flowing out his ears in every which way.  Here are a few examples.


Free Energy V Gate  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3wobW3VouY

V gate again-  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l65laCRKMyQ&t=264s

PERPETUAL Saw blade MOTOR. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQdazivxi7o

nix85

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Re: Another failed project
« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2023, 01:11:05 AM »
huh???    Let me remind you of your words;

"Because the inductor inside the tic tac bottle is firing - repelling the rotor"
"It's filled with a battery, sensor and a copper coil."


Are these claims? Yes, they are claims.

So you claimed and i claimed, it would be fair to say, we both claimed.

But who spoke the TRUTH, that is the real question. Well, i did.

And i saw his V gate videos, they are real as well. There are no "red flags",
just like there are no tic tac boxes you imagined.

These motors work and anyone intelligent and passionate with some trial and error can make them. The thing is all these are extremely low power output, basically toys / decorations.

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Re: Another failed project
« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2023, 01:40:49 AM »
It has been Noted;

I now must specifically paste my disclaimer "In My Opinion" before each and every thing I post, even if the statement is reasons why I "BELIEVE" something.  Simply stating it is my belief within the post is not enough..

I try to refrain from these foolish arguments.  My apologies to all else wasting their time reading this. 




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Re: Another failed project
« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2023, 03:01:36 AM »
In any case, it's real.