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Author Topic: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)  (Read 88860 times)

Offline hartiberlin

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #165 on: May 13, 2007, 06:36:58 PM »
Hi Dr.Spark,
I don?t understand your green waveform...
Does it go with a spike up and then reverses and go lower ?
If I try to follow the green line it is hard to see, when it comes up,
where it exactly goes !?

Also what does your red line mean ?
Is this the output ?

What is the output power versus input power ?

Did you try to take new scopeshots so one could
see this ?
With your last scopeshots you did not show the
input current scopeshots, so one could
not calculate the input power.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #166 on: May 13, 2007, 06:45:19 PM »
Hi Spark,
can you please explain a bit the new circuit and the graphs
posted in your last RAR file ?
Many thanks.

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #167 on: May 13, 2007, 06:41:42 PM »
not eng.

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #168 on: May 13, 2007, 06:46:07 PM »
not eng.

Not in English or what should that mean ???

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #169 on: May 13, 2007, 07:21:14 PM »
DobÃ…â„¢e, skus to otestovat.

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #170 on: May 13, 2007, 10:36:28 PM »
Hi Vala, People,

Here is Vala's circuit converted to picture.
Interesting fet driver

VBR
drspark

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #171 on: May 13, 2007, 11:15:19 PM »
Thank you.

Offline wizkycho

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #172 on: May 14, 2007, 10:24:54 AM »
not eng.

I think, that vala is trying to control FETs with impulse trafos which I think is good approach
scince we don't have PNP optocouplers in our shops to make discrete solid state relays and be sure when actually our fet is closed or opened. So this is the next best thing before we manage to buy some real solid states (no triacs or SCRs at output).

His schematic approach is novel in that manner that he uses parallel-serial,serial-parallel recombination of caps but allso uses part of my last schematic that helps to discharge serial combination much more (and in same time preserving dipole from otput) than just recombination would allow.

I wellcom this approach but there is one additional loss when charge is splited to paralel capacitor combination it losses it's potential (V) and much of energy is lost that way so I wold stick to complete detail in my last schematic.

goosh I don't have time to make this simple setup.

Igor

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #173 on: May 15, 2007, 03:57:59 PM »
DobÃ…â„¢e, skus to otestovat.

OK, now we have to test it !

If building uppon schematic with only two caps (the one I recently proposed) it is advised to use
unipolar capacitors (sadly known unipolar caps have small capacities).electrolites will blow.

Are supercaps unipolar or bipolar caps ?

Igor

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #174 on: May 15, 2007, 08:48:49 PM »
l am sorry at present have not time.

Capacitor RAD BIP 10/100 RM3.5  (www.ges.cz)

It is whim synchronic resonance.
Heed not regulation (R3= 10K - 1K) max 60V
R1 = (In) or out energy.
Start charge T1 (primary - sekundar)= coil capacitor
Deepr analysis next week.

Sorry not englich.

vala
« Last Edit: May 15, 2007, 09:09:39 PM by vala »

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #175 on: June 12, 2007, 08:32:38 AM »
This looks quite promising!  How are things going for all replicating experimenters on this thread?

What brought me here was investigating what appears to be an extremely basic version of what the OP is working with.  The experiment was very crude, starting with manual switching sequences.  I added a microcontroller(PIC16F628A) to drive some Photo-MOS relays(653-G3VM-352C) and so converted it to solid-state.

I'm working with very low capacitance(~100uF aluminum electrolytic) and so far nothing worth mentioning has come of it..  My desire is to see a compact device capable of running a couple of LEDs or various microcontroller applications while trickle-charging a Supercapacitor as the main source dipole.

Here is the first iteration of the "FlexFlo" circuit inspired by George Wiseman's Energy Conservation theory:
FLEXFLO1.GIF

I might get around to trying the second iteration:
FLEXFLO2.GIF

Though this thread has gotten me to think bigger  :)

It's been fun following what you've all been up to, hoping to see what comes next!

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #176 on: January 02, 2008, 01:58:30 PM »
Is this project still alive?

Fausto.

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #177 on: January 07, 2008, 01:15:06 PM »
Dr. Spark's circuit, Igor's Switcher and Wiseman's Conserver bear some resemblance.  Charging two caps in a parallel unit, which is also in parallel with two caps in a series unit, then by a prescribed sequence of closing switches/relays placing the first two in series, connected to the second two which are now in parallel, produced a compelling situation:  Current was sloshing back and forth between the two banks, being re-used at the load, with a battery replenishing the miniscule losses during one of the switching states.  One issue I encountered was that both capacitor banks eventually balanced out at full charge and the current sloshing between them would diminish, at least until one of the banks was discharged manually.  So you end up using and re-using the charging current for a while, then you have to do something with the accumulated power to stave off stagnation.

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #178 on: April 27, 2008, 06:38:24 AM »
Hi There All,

a youtube sim_replication

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHiGDo47ibw

Thank You Fausto. 

IF you do build use photo flash caps for lower charge and discharge resistance...

Dave
« Last Edit: May 05, 2008, 10:11:31 AM by drspark »

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #179 on: April 27, 2008, 11:37:44 AM »
hi all

sorry, i didn't see this thread before - i joined in on the 'Tesla Switch, need help thread' recently with some supporting results for NerzhDishual about Conservation of Charge violation i recorded when switching charge from one capacitor to another and then i started a new thread ('OU/COP>1 switched cap PS cct like half Tesla Switch' in Super Capacitor forum) about the Cap switching results i'm seeing

i'm seeing measured COPs slightly greater than 1 when accounting for output plus all other cct dissipation compared with supplied power

i'm using Super Caps as input supply so i can  get a better measure of energy supplied

interested to see your cct here DrS, my cct also uses the energy travelling between caps but only on a single pass

in the circuit posted, i have transistors in Darlington pairs as switches but in last couple weeks i've been able to replace with MOSFETS, reducing losses, and now getting very interesting results!

last night i think i finally understood what's going on with the apparent '50%'approx input energy losses and i think i know what mods to make to test my suspicions about what's happening

keep up the good work, all - there is definitely some non-Classical ElectroDynamics occuring with these cap-to-cap energy switching arrangements we're using!!

sandy
« Last Edit: April 28, 2008, 01:22:03 AM by nul-points »