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sm0ky2

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Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #240 on: March 19, 2023, 07:22:57 PM »
Ok guys, i remade my video with (i hope) better audio


Also changed the drive magnet to something easier for me to demo


https://youtu.be/0KqaxvxDKKE


You can throw this interaction into your FEMM simulator
or build something on your own


The math checks out, and this works in real world examples


That being said:


I don’t see how this is any different than a mechanical drive mechanism.
Take for instance a linear spin drive: where you apply a mechanical force in one direction
and it translates to a high rpm spin in a single plane


This was used in devices like toy helicopters with a squeeze trigger to launch them
Or some types of pedal-sewing machines, etc.


There IS a mechanical leverage


I am not entirely certain wether or not this amounts to a gain in total energy.
At this point i have not seen evidence of such.

sm0ky2

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Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #241 on: March 19, 2023, 11:52:43 PM »
Planetary gears have shown to be extremely efficient,
Which is why they are used by people like NASA and robotics engineers


So the research may have valid applications


As per the “OU” claim,
I’ll wait for a working replication

Cloxxki

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Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #242 on: March 20, 2023, 11:56:01 AM »
If its main rival were to be the planetary gearset, what applications might the cogging NOT be a deal breaker for, considering the minute losses to be overcome? :)

Brain fart: With the system in repelling mode, the rotors seeks an equilibrium between stator poles, correct? Elimitating the closer proximity cogging, I could see that being advantageous. Less sure whether it's workable...

bistander

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Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #243 on: March 20, 2023, 12:01:56 PM »
The stable detent is when magnet is aligned with tooth. See the graphic attached to my post. Position C, figure 6.
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Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #244 on: March 20, 2023, 12:16:00 PM »
Excuse my reply if I am wrong.  I usually won't reply if I feel it is out of my lane, which this is.  But I have to ask..

It appears to me like the machine builds great torque only when it jumps the gap.  But then there is the opposite reaction when the flux path aligns again which results in little to no torque. So the torque on the output is not constant. It has peaks and valleys.

I see this somewhat similar to the "twist drive".  In that case, COP 2:1 is created- but COP 1:2 when resetting the device.

Here is the manual for the FUTEK IHH500. https://media.futek.com/content/futek/files/pdf/Manuals_and_Technical_Documents/IHH500Manual.pdf

Seems this advanced torque meter can be programmed to display any result we desire.  And we can not see the settings, The demo does not show wattage in / out comparison, does not show it looped, etc.

I remain doubtful till I see more.

Cloxxki

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Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #245 on: March 20, 2023, 01:35:12 PM »
Excuse my reply if I am wrong.  I usually won't reply if I feel it is out of my lane, which this is.  But I have to ask..

It appears to me like the machine builds great torque only when it jumps the gap.  But then there is the opposite reaction when the flux path aligns again which results in little to no torque. So the torque on the output is not constant. It has peaks and valleys.

I see this somewhat similar to the "twist drive".  In that case, COP 2:1 is created- but COP 1:2 when resetting the device.

I remain doubtful till I see more.
Your restraint is far greater than mine :-D
Wise to remain doubtful, the more we notice, the less convincing a case it appears to become.

I imagine the one-way bearing's job might be to prevent the COP 1:2 phase on one side of either first or second stage?
Or would that serve another, unconnected role?

Here is a practical design to test this MotoFlux idea.
The first stage (the little) shaft has to have one-way bearings to prevent the kickback.
Apologies if this has been discussed, but would the second stage (rotor) never get into a situation of risking kickback? A one-way bearing on that mounted to the stator, couldn't hurt?
Alternatively I could imagine a flywheel mounted via one-way bearing to either interruptor, rotor, or both. The flywheel could be driven by spring load to keep pace with its associated member, and then more or less lock in that speed for it member through the one-way bearing. It's a different things to be prevened negative rotation, and to run into a hard flywheel connection when slowing down. Intuitively I'd want to try and keep the accelerated positive rotation mostly disconnected from the flywheel, although input smoothening may well turn out advantageous anyway.

kolbacict

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Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #246 on: March 20, 2023, 01:36:49 PM »


I see this somewhat similar to the "twist drive".  In that case, COP 2:1 is created- but COP 1:2 when resetting the device.



I remain doubtful till I see more.
If we install another such device on the same shaft, but with a shift by some angle.
So that when there is a large torque on one device, and a small one on the other.
And they worked the both  on one common output shaft.
Then it will all just turn into a device that transmits rotation one to one? :D

Cloxxki

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Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #247 on: March 20, 2023, 02:59:09 PM »
If we install another such device on the same shaft, but with a shift by some angle.
So that when there is a large torque on one device, and a small one on the other.
And they worked the both  on one common output shaft.
Then it will all just turn into a device that transmits rotation one to one? :D
The "proof of" concept is presented with 3 phases of stators. Isn't that largely the same thing?
Would you feel it would be better to have two, perfectly out of phase?
I'm not sure the half phases are perfectly symmetrical, else that would look really well.

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Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #248 on: March 20, 2023, 04:14:48 PM »
If we install another such device on the same shaft, but with a shift by some angle.
So that when there is a large torque on one device, and a small one on the other.
And they worked the both  on one common output shaft.
Then it will all just turn into a device that transmits rotation one to one? :D

Basically yes as I see it.

Take a magnet rotor. Put another outside magnet close to the rotor. You created a situation where you get more torque when it repels the rotor, less torque as it's approaching the repelling field.

Now put two magnets on either side of the rotor. They pretty much cancel each other out if position perfectly.

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Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #249 on: March 21, 2023, 10:46:56 AM »
 Hi !   Mike Corbin came up with a very interesting idea.   One can imagine such a legend - Edward Leedskalnin woke up William J Putt and William J Putt woke up Mike Corbin   :) :)   .  A common phenomenon for them is the interaction and change in the properties of magnets in various ways.
           I see a high probability that this device is a workable energy multiplier.

          Perhaps I will have time to adapt this technology for a solid state device. It is also desirable to adapt this technology for easily accessible parts.
         And after these works, I plan to publish everything in the public domain   :) .

                                          I hope that Big Oil trolls won't send me a lot of messages with ridiculous offers again   :)  :)  :)  ;D


                              Best regards Boris

Cloxxki

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Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #250 on: March 21, 2023, 11:59:44 AM »
Hi !   Mike Corbin came up with a very interesting idea.   One can imagine such a legend - Edward Leedskalnin woke up William J Putt and William J Putt woke up Mike Corbin   :) :)   .  A common phenomenon for them is the interaction and change in the properties of magnets in various ways.
           I see a high probability that this device is a workable energy multiplier.

          Perhaps I will have time to adapt this technology for a solid state device. It is also desirable to adapt this technology for easily accessible parts.
         And after these works, I plan to publish everything in the public domain   :) .

                                          I hope that Big Oil trolls won't send me a lot of messages with ridiculous offers again   :) :) :) ;D


                              Best regards Boris
When you manage a solid state adaptation with good energy output per kg that makes energy cheap on large and small scale, I'll be petittioning to have your name to be put on high profile streets, parks and cities :-)

BorisKrabow

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Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #251 on: March 21, 2023, 12:23:50 PM »
When you manage a solid state adaptation with good energy output per kg that makes energy cheap on large and small scale, I'll be petittioning to have your name to be put on high profile streets, parks and cities :-)
Before the publication of many technologies  I try to carefully check for effectiveness. So that this technology cannot be used on flying drones with a range of over 1000 miles.   :)  :)
            But it happens that errors occur, especially under the influence of alcohol and other factors ......  :)   :)   :)   ;D

rakarskiy

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Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #252 on: March 21, 2023, 04:47:07 PM »
You are naive, just an example of modern history from free energy generators: Muammer Yulduz Motor   https://overunity.com/8870/muammer-yildiz-magnet-motor/

It started in 2010. In addition, the author already had a company in Turkey, with a line of magnetic generators. In 2019, we tried with an Italian partner to bring it into the information field.

https://rakatskiy-blogspot-com.translate.goog/2020/03/blog-post.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ru&_x_tr_pto=wapp


After a probably very rude explanation in 2019, the author waited for permission and after the earthquake, the site simply disappeared. http://hmsbturk.com/tr/urunler/
These are bare facts, fully proven technology! And where are the laurels and named streets?

Cloxxki

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Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #253 on: March 21, 2023, 05:07:41 PM »
You are naive, just an example of modern history from free energy generators: Muammer Yulduz Motor   https://overunity.com/8870/muammer-yildiz-magnet-motor/

It started in 2010. In addition, the author already had a company in Turkey, with a line of magnetic generators. In 2019, we tried with an Italian partner to bring it into the information field.

https://rakatskiy-blogspot-com.translate.goog/2020/03/blog-post.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ru&_x_tr_pto=wapp


After a probably very rude explanation in 2019, the author waited for permission and after the earthquake, the site simply disappeared. http://hmsbturk.com/tr/urunler/
These are bare facts, fully proven technology! And where are the laurels and named streets?
Was anyone able to buy a runner from him? It would not depend on one author then, surely...
Facts and proof are on a sliding scale in this business. Most inventors are the key obstruction for their invention to be known and understood, let alone enjoyed by anyone else.
Once you have a runner, scale it down and distribute models with full drawings.

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« Reply #254 on: March 21, 2023, 07:12:35 PM »
        And let me tell you my vision of the processes in Mike Corbin's device .

                           Since the Director is made of a material with high magnetic permeability, its rotation changes the force of interaction between the two compound rotor magnets. Everyone is well aware that when two magnets approach with opposite poles, they turn into one magnet. There is also a reverse process. At the same time, the strength of the poles of these magnets changes to a large extent.There are also many intermediate positions.
                                                  Thus, the rotation of the director in the center of the rotor significantly changes the strength of the magnetic field at the two ends of the rotor.
                                           
                                          I want to see the continuation of this story, otherwise I'm bored alone writing fairy tales .....   :)   :)