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Author Topic: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!  (Read 56225 times)

bistander

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Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #60 on: March 05, 2023, 07:08:40 PM »
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My question is...Is there any other material/component on Earth, that we all could use to replace that very small magnet?
The answer is a radical NOPE, there is NOT!!
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A piezo ignition system.
bi

Ufopolitics

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Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #61 on: March 05, 2023, 07:50:21 PM »
A piezo ignition system.
bi
You know perfectly well that a piezo ignition system will not work as a simple permanent magnet will.
besides the costs...
A piezo electric system requires a compression force to be applied in order to ignite every time we need the spark to be generated.
A PM will not need but just to simply "pass by the coil"...every certain degrees...a simple rotation which is part of the engine function.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piezoelectricity

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Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #62 on: March 05, 2023, 08:02:31 PM »
Not seesaw.
Do not use the force of the magnet to move the yellow arm away from the stator salient pole at the initial position in Figure 1.
It is necessary to quickly remove the magnet so that there are basically no magnetic field lines on the yellow arm,
and there is no resistance to leave the salient pole.

The magnet should return to the right angle, and the yellow arm should be moved to the next salient pole.

The inertia wheel has a very important role.
I don't understand what would be the benefit from removing cogging?
Wesley

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Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #63 on: March 05, 2023, 08:33:18 PM »
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bistander

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Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #64 on: March 05, 2023, 08:42:36 PM »
You know perfectly well that a piezo ignition system will not work as a simple permanent magnet will.
besides the costs...
A piezo electric system requires a compression force to be applied in order to ignite every time we need the spark to be generated.
A PM will not need but just to simply "pass by the coil"...every certain degrees...a simple rotation which is part of the engine function.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piezoelectricity

Ufopolitics

Ufo,

You asked for a replacement. Piezo is perfectly legitimate. It could work. It's used many places in appliances. For an engine, it would not be as cost effective* or durable as the PM , but certainly doable. If China closed the door on PMs, small engines would find other ignition systems.

It's off topic. I just answered your question.... with a correct answer.
bi

* Cost effective.... For now. But economics change. Maybe tomorrow a piezo chip will be less expensive than a PM and copper coil. Perhaps the piezo system could eliminate the spark plug.


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Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #65 on: March 05, 2023, 08:49:47 PM »
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Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #66 on: March 05, 2023, 09:03:10 PM »
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Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #67 on: March 05, 2023, 09:14:46 PM »
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Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #68 on: March 05, 2023, 09:33:45 PM »
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stivep

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Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #69 on: March 05, 2023, 09:45:48 PM »
 You got your cogging  right?
  (picture was removed)
so now power  only that additional  device  from whatever , solar ,wind,  hand, water,... gravity  what else?
And all it is is just a simple seesaw ....
Wesley
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Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #70 on: March 05, 2023, 10:08:57 PM »
Hmm,
I think the motoflux is different...Wesley...
What are your drawings about ?
Why are there the magnets oposing each other ?
Makes no sense...to me...hmm....

I guess the MotoFlux concept is simular to the Hatem
motors configuration, but the MotoFlux motor has the magnets inside the rotor !!!

Maybe that makes a difference in the cogging and slippages forces..

Not so easy to understand it all...
Would love to see more videos from Corbin.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #71 on: March 05, 2023, 10:18:26 PM »
Here this guy did not get the Hatem motor running overunity :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au2jDbiyveQ

But maybe it is different, when the magnets sit inside the rotor,as can be seen inside the one video from Corbin.
Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #72 on: March 05, 2023, 10:29:11 PM »
Hmm,
I think the motoflux is different...Wesley...
Regards, Stefan.

Please fallow it step by step as it is written in time spend at it  below:

1. I expressed nonsense of  patented design as self powering and extracting energy from magnet.     
I'm not touching  a concept of the motor. Lets say it  is the way  it was patented.

2. I only posted  simplified  version  of  vectoral power distribution.
     and based on it  created a picture representing it.

3. Than few participants pointed at cogging . and I pointed at  another nonsense based on vectoral power distribution.
    in few of my comments. That means that shaft  having Fi 2cm must move "director" that causes arm to slightly move and magnetic flux becomes  distorted
    looking for the shortest path  . In effect we have cogging  but the force needed to be applied to the shaft must be strong enough to move entire arm from
    its lacking point and create   cogging.

4.  as an example
:   If we have seesaw with two identical  kids at each  end
     than controlling seesaw right from  middle  of  the seesaw is much more  difficult than  if these two identical kids were   doing it at the end of the seesaw
     So the  conclusion was to apply force at the end of the arm of the inventor device  and cause  cogging.

5. Than I ask the audience   what is their position in that and no one  responded.
    So I posted few pictures explaining how that cogging can be done..
     But if that is too confusing   to someone  I  remove it no problem..
    :)


   
conclusion:
 if you were  to  attach the motor  rotating  the shaft  of  inventor device  and  you need  e.g 10W per cogg at 360 degrees. ( depends from length of the arm)
 after you make suggested by me change  you'll need ~0.1W to do the same ( not calculated ,approximate figure given  as load is unknown)
 And cogging at 360 will also turn the shaft that doesn't need to be connected from now to any motor, but can be connected to the generator instead. 

In contrast to it: The inventor device must  have  motor connected to the shaft  and this motor is moving shaft . !!!!!   
 So this motor must  turn 2cm  diameter shaft  with 7cm "director" where  total  length of an arm that (MUST MOVE TOO)  is 30cm.... and at the end there is  opposing magnetic force.
 do you see the difference now?

I hope it helps.



Wesley
 
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Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #73 on: March 05, 2023, 10:51:09 PM »
Very confusing all your drawings, Wesley ..
Do you say it is working based on your drawings or not ??

Anyway, lets see, if the inventor comes up with more explanation videos..

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #74 on: March 05, 2023, 10:59:58 PM »
Very confusing all your drawings, Wesley ..
Do you say it is working based on your drawings or not ??

Anyway, lets see, if the inventor comes up with more explanation videos..

Regards, Stefan.

Drawings are explaining  mechanism of  a little power to be applied .
And all of these  drawing are important   in this explanation.
The original mechanism  of the inventor  reminds unchanged.
But  operation of inventor device  (based on my pictures) 
- from now is based on  that force that was delivered  at the end of  the arm.

No worry I just removed  the drawings. :)

Wesley