Storing Cookies (See : http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/cookies/index_en.htm ) help us to bring you our services at overunity.com . If you use this website and our services you declare yourself okay with using cookies .More Infos here:
https://overunity.com/5553/privacy-policy/
If you do not agree with storing cookies, please LEAVE this website now. From the 25th of May 2018, every existing user has to accept the GDPR agreement at first login. If a user is unwilling to accept the GDPR, he should email us and request to erase his account. Many thanks for your understanding

User Menu

Custom Search

Author Topic: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!  (Read 61326 times)

endlessoceans

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 137
Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #300 on: March 28, 2023, 01:47:00 PM »
This was over at another thread and I am placing here also because it is to do with leverage also

LOOKS like a working prototype and a genuine inventor

No claims by me as to whether it is more energy out than in but the videos and inventors claims seem to indicate that

Frustrating that many interesting inventions coming from eastern bloc countries.  Im intrigued what their common thread is


Firstly Andrey Ermola from Kharkov. Secondly, its gearbox converts the static mechanical pressure on the gearbox rod into a rotational torque. What does this mean: once you have created a force of a vector plan (for example, a jack) per unit of time and remove the torque. What is the output, connect your business.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g0FcY-7Fw0&t=173s

https://www.youtube.com/@andreyermola


Seems very transparent about it and open source   Wont be easily replicated though unless you are machinist and have his drawings

The gearing is complex

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUo1dqXP2j8

This interview obviously complains a little of perpetual motion in history

Its a good interview

But hey the fact that he completed it over 12 years ago and still nothing in production shows the same old problems I have mentioned before.  The system is not interested in anything remotely free energy


rakarskiy

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 924
    • Free Energy Systems (UA)
Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #301 on: March 28, 2023, 02:35:53 PM »
Are you wondering why it's not running? I will even say more, Andriy turned to President Poroshenko to implement his project in 2015-16, where he, NOT very politely, was shown the door. Perhaps they even threatened him, because after that he dismantled everything and disappeared from the information space. Just released a video recently.


bistander

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 705
Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #302 on: March 28, 2023, 02:53:26 PM »
Relevance?
I thought topic is MotoFlux device by Mike Corbin as related in first few posts.
bi

ramset

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8073
Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #303 on: March 28, 2023, 04:18:38 PM »

Seems very transparent about it and open source   Wont be easily replicated though unless you are machinist and have his drawings

The gearing is complex

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUo1dqXP2j8

This interview obviously complains a little of perpetual motion in history

Its a good interview

But hey the fact that he completed it over 12 years ago and still nothing in production shows the same old problems I have mentioned before.  The system is not interested in anything remotely free energy


Endlessoceans
Yes a very big piece of meat …
For a very hungry planet


I am uncertain if there is a dedicated topic here already?
If none …Please start one !
Nowadays 3d printing has advanced way beyond 12 years ago
Nothing ventured nothing gained !
Respectfully
Chet
Ps
Perhaps we can ask Floodrod if we can start a topic in his board ?
( I will try now to reach him)
EDIT
Yes Floodrod will review info and host topic..( for comments, discussion , etc
Perhaps we can invite the inventor too( if we get that far ..)
As time permits ..





endlessoceans

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 137
Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #304 on: March 29, 2023, 01:26:38 AM »
Are you wondering why it's not running? I will even say more, Andriy turned to President Poroshenko to implement his project in 2015-16, where he, NOT very politely, was shown the door. Perhaps they even threatened him, because after that he dismantled everything and disappeared from the information space. Just released a video recently.

Thanks Rkarsky

Any idea where he is located?

endlessoceans

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 137
Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #305 on: March 29, 2023, 01:31:29 AM »
Relevance?
I thought topic is MotoFlux device by Mike Corbin as related in first few posts.
bi

Hello Friend

I have investigated and been paid to help develop/fund these type devices for the past 18 years

The RELEVANCE is this....I can tell you that all devices which run close to or over 100% whether they be coils, magnet motors, geared mechaniccal contraptions all have at least one thing in common.  Leverage and pivots.  I

I posted this here because its a common thread.  But Im sorry if this has muddled the waters.  As far as I see it it only clarifies things

Its just another shape of energy producer

does a helicopter look like a F18 Jet or a jumbo or a rocket?  NO  But they ALL fly by means of the same principle

See the principle....bend it to your will and then you can shape it any damn way you want

endlessoceans

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 137
Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #306 on: March 29, 2023, 01:32:39 AM »

Endlessoceans
Yes a very big piece of meat …
For a very hungry planet


I am uncertain if there is a dedicated topic here already?
If none …Please start one !
Nowadays 3d printing has advanced way beyond 12 years ago
Nothing ventured nothing gained !
Respectfully
Chet
Ps
Perhaps we can ask Floodrod if we can start a topic in his board ?
( I will try now to reach him)
EDIT
Yes Floodrod will review info and host topic..( for comments, discussion , etc
Perhaps we can invite the inventor too( if we get that far ..)
As time permits ..

Thank you Chet

Keep up the good work

kolbacict

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1418
Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #307 on: March 29, 2023, 10:09:22 AM »
Thanks Rkarsky

Any idea where he is located?
Really,could someone of you to create that topic?
I am a few doubting about this idea.
But an enthusiast,who is believe in that ought to open that thread.

ramset

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8073
Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #308 on: March 29, 2023, 06:00:20 PM »

As mentioned above
New placeholder for Mr.Andrey Ermola Device ( towards a build discussion?)
Thanks again to Floodrod for hosting at his moderated board !
https://overunity.com/19431/placeholder-for-discussion-andrey-ermola-his-device-and-theory-of-operation/msg575910/#new


Also below from a very dedicated open source researcher regarding a Japanese claim
Will post in appropriate spot ( once found)https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J61m6YY-2sY

Respectfully
Chet K

sm0ky2

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3948
Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #309 on: March 29, 2023, 10:35:53 PM »


Also below from a very dedicated open source researcher regarding a Japanese claim
Will post in appropriate spot ( once found)https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J61m6YY-2sY

Respectfully
Chet K


Thanks chet.
(Not to get off topic but to help classify this device)
To sum up the Japanese device:


We have a pulse dc and a sine wave, theyre wound on the same stator core
They are operates in parallel IN PHASE (probably just 1/2 wave rectifier on one) at the same amplitude and frequency
same number of turns, size of wires etc.


To turn a single rotor




wampum

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 1
Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #310 on: April 13, 2023, 03:42:03 PM »
I watched their videos and then used chatgpt to crunch the numbers. Here are the results:
Improvement percentage = (New value - Old value) / Old value * 100

Where:
- Old value = 0.2110 ft-lb
- New value = 4.2396

Substituting these values in the formula:

Improvement percentage = (4.2396 - 0.2110) / 0.2110 * 100
Improvement percentage = 1905.21%

Therefore, the improvement percentage is approximately 1905.21%.

.I apologize for the confusion earlier. I have reviewed the FAQ section on MotoFluxPower.com and I couldn't find any information about a movie or video that explains the difference on 1905.21%. However, according to their website, MotoFluxPower.com claims that their patented motor concept uses a unique combination of radial select capability and contoured pole tips to offer increased rotational torque using just the power of nature. They also claim that their design can be used in place of any electric motor application from powering vehicles to manufacturing equipment. The improvement percentage calculated earlier was based on the input and output values provided and does not necessarily imply that overunity has been achievedTo calculate the improvement percentage, we can use the formula:

but i disagree with you (ChatGPT) since there is data in their video proving that overunity has been achieved by way of magnets. what do you have to say about this clarification?
It said sorry. I'm new and terminated itself. :o

ramset

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8073
Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #311 on: April 18, 2023, 08:22:29 PM »
Bump


Been discussing this with a few open source builders …
Gotoluc is most definitely intrigued.. although he is
Quite busy on an unrelated ( to FE research) project ATM
For perhaps the rest of this month…


Hopefully a builders board can be started after some simple tests show promise?
 I know Smokey did a quick mockup which seemed to imply a path worth investigating
Will repost that here …






Cloxxki

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1083
Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #312 on: April 20, 2023, 02:23:39 PM »
I watched their videos and then used chatgpt to crunch the numbers. Here are the results:
Improvement percentage = (New value - Old value) / Old value * 100

Where:
- Old value = 0.2110 ft-lb
- New value = 4.2396

Substituting these values in the formula:

Improvement percentage = (4.2396 - 0.2110) / 0.2110 * 100
Improvement percentage = 1905.21%

Therefore, the improvement percentage is approximately 1905.21%.

.I apologize for the confusion earlier. I have reviewed the FAQ section on MotoFluxPower.com and I couldn't find any information about a movie or video that explains the difference on 1905.21%. However, according to their website, MotoFluxPower.com claims that their patented motor concept uses a unique combination of radial select capability and contoured pole tips to offer increased rotational torque using just the power of nature. They also claim that their design can be used in place of any electric motor application from powering vehicles to manufacturing equipment. The improvement percentage calculated earlier was based on the input and output values provided and does not necessarily imply that overunity has been achievedTo calculate the improvement percentage, we can use the formula:

but i disagree with you (ChatGPT) since there is data in their video proving that overunity has been achieved by way of magnets. what do you have to say about this clarification?
It said sorry. I'm new and terminated itself. :o
What job did you give Chat GPT? Because even that simple calc us off a bit. Typo? +1909% would be closer. But don't trust me, I barely finished high school.

I've found that even the most basic physics calculations, it will mess up.

I had it calculate a theoretical power and speed for a perfectly double scaled submarine. It needed a lot of guidance and correction. Every step of the way it would acknowledge my correction, but it tool a while to get it to agree to the number I had in mind, whether that was ever correct or not.
Seems it takes SOME fomulas it can find, and then with misplaced confidence applies them, eliminating what it can't place. You can't trust Chat GPT with physics calcs any better than you can trust a Tesla on Autopilot approaching a tight bend in the road. It's also very modern "science" biased. What billionaires and governments want the populous to know. Chat GPT was programmed by Microsoft people and fed with data that was allowed to be online and part of its dataset by 2019.

To me the torque means little. I expect someone who can build THAT apparatus to attached efficient drive motor and generator with battery to loop it, or better: a mechanical loop. If it can really demonstrate over-torque at 37 rpm or whatever, I'm quite confident that with Legos and ultra basic crafts supplied, I'd mechanically loop it.
If a very specific input drive is needed, all it takes is a good torque and speed logging and program that into an efficient drive motor. The people to do that work are right here in this community, and they'd do it in their leisure time.

It's fancy website and video, but the inventor seems to want to make it the problem of an investor to actually make it work? If he'd ask help from builders, I bet he'd get it but they'd immediately be asking the right questions.

heinzpg

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 1
Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #313 on: April 30, 2023, 12:25:05 PM »
I watched their videos and then used chatgpt to crunch the numbers. Here are the results:
Improvement percentage = (New value - Old value) / Old value * 100

Where:
- Old value = 0.2110 ft-lb
- New value = 4.2396

Substituting these values in the formula:

Improvement percentage = (4.2396 - 0.2110) / 0.2110 * 100
Improvement percentage = 1905.21%

Therefore, the improvement percentage is approximately 1905.21%.

.I apologize for the confusion earlier. I have reviewed the FAQ section on MotoFluxPower.com and I couldn't find any information about a movie or video that explains the difference on 1905.21%. However, according to their website, MotoFluxPower.com claims that their patented motor concept uses a unique combination of radial select capability and contoured pole tips to offer increased rotational torque using just the power of nature. They also claim that their design can be used in place of any electric motor application from powering vehicles to manufacturing equipment. The improvement percentage calculated earlier was based on the input and output values provided and does not necessarily imply that overunity has been achievedTo calculate the improvement percentage, we can use the formula:

but i disagree with you (ChatGPT) since there is data in their video proving that overunity has been achieved by way of magnets. what do you have to say about this clarification?
It said sorry. I'm new and terminated itself. :o

I am also new here. In the FAQ section of the MotoFlux Website I found the following in answer to the question if this is a free energy device:  "To the best of our knowledge (and the scientific community in general), there is no such thing as free energy. At the very least, the production of permanent magnets requires energy. Also, the operation of the radial field director requires energy. "

This is a strange explanation! Only a part of the energy used in production of magnets can be found in the magnet, and if you buy a magnet, you have to pay for all the energy which was used in the production and for much more. Thus, if the MotoFlux machine just delivers this energy, the costs of the machine with its magnets must be considerable higher than the costs of the energy which can be gained! I have tried to get a clarification about this but I only got a very short answer by Mr. Corbin which ignored my question and no more answer on a second try. The whole construction is dubious. I can't understand there is an increase of torque. There is actio and reactio. If there is a torque on the shaft with magnets, there must be an equal counter-torque on the shaft of the director and this torque must be overcome by the motor driving the director.

lumen

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1388
Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!
« Reply #314 on: May 10, 2023, 03:11:17 AM »
Maybe someone could go there to verify the results or possibly get some exact cad drawings to build a duplicate (or scale) device for testing for peer review?