Author Topic: Another Lenz Defeating Patent - (Read 758 times)

floodrod · « **on:** February 18, 2023, 05:40:12 PM »

I bookmarked this patent a while ago and revisited it today during my Saturday leisure surfing. It is another patent that has been granted which claims to defeat lenz law.

"The present invention describes an electrical generator wherein magnetic braking phenomena, known as expressions of Lenz's Law, do not oppose the means by which the magnetic field energy is caused to move"

I have yet to see or hear any replications, besides a few videos speaking of the idea.

Solid state electric generator
https://patents.google.com/patent/US7830065B2/en

Does anyone have information on this device? Are there replications? It looks easy enough to build..

ramset · « **Reply #1 on:** February 18, 2023, 06:06:33 PM »

We have a few members who may have input for you on that,
Will reach out and get back to you .

Referring to acquaintances of inventor .

Thanks for starting topic
Respectfully
Chet K

floodrod · « **Reply #2 on:** February 18, 2023, 06:20:25 PM »

Here's a past thread on it.. https://overunity.com/1297/graham-gundersons-dragless-generator-patent-lenz-law-violation/

Catching up..

floodrod · « **Reply #3 on:** February 18, 2023, 07:01:23 PM »

Ok so here's the summary what I got..

1. first patent noticed, discussion / replications ensued.

2. Mark Goldes - Chairman & CEO of Magnetic Power Inc. joined convo. Stated that they have a model producing 100 fold OU. But replications will fail because they are hiding info.

3. Mark later confirms special specific expensive core is needed that needs machine shop to make. And some other info is withheld until final patent comes out. Mark still states replications will not produce OU. Only they have the "secret ingredient".

4. Working models supposed to be released on the shelf in late 2007.

5. Thread goes quiet until new patent is released. But thread was now crickets. No mention of what was added in new patent compared to old.

6. 2023 today- Is the idea dead? Expanded upon? Bunk Scam? Being suppressed? Don't know.. but whole story sounds SUS.

bistander · « **Reply #4 on:** February 18, 2023, 07:01:55 PM »

Quote from: ramset on February 18, 2023, 06:06:33 PM

We have a few members who may have input for you on that,
Will reach out and get back to you .

Referring to acquaintances of inventor .

Thanks for starting topic
Respectfully
Chet K

That's interesting. After a quick read, usefulness? I see this, quote from patent:

Quote

Therefore, as increasing amounts of energy are withdrawn from the generator as output power performing useful work, decreasing amounts of energy are generally required to operate it.

I see nowhere claim or mention of output power exceeding input power. Only increased efficiency. And no evidence to back that.

Has Graham demonstrated OU or FE? Any further development? Has there been found a use for it?
bi

am1ll3r · « **Reply #5 on:** February 18, 2023, 07:12:32 PM »

Here is a link to I believe the patent holders (Graham Gunderson) you tube.
https://www.youtube.com/@ggund01/videos

ramset · « **Reply #6 on:** February 18, 2023, 07:55:45 PM »

Quote from: floodrod on February 18, 2023, 07:01:23 PM

Ok so here's the summary what I got..

1. first patent noticed, discussion / replications ensued.

2. Mark Goldes - Chairman & CEO of Magnetic Power Inc. joined convo. Stated that they have a model producing 100 fold OU. But replications will fail because they are hiding info.

3. Mark later confirms special specific expensive core is needed that needs machine shop to make. And some other info is withheld until final patent comes out. Mark still states replications will not produce OU. Only they have the "secret ingredient".

4. Working models supposed to be released on the shelf in late 2007.

5. Thread goes quiet until new patent is released. But thread was now crickets. No mention of what was added in new patent compared to old.

6. 2023 today- Is the idea dead? Expanded upon? Bunk Scam? Being suppressed? Don't know.. but whole story sounds SUS.

Floodrod
At this moment I have spoken with one associate who made brief comment on patents
Viability ,
He feels Graham has moved on from this ?( he is aware of new directions Mr.Gunderson is exploring)
So seems to have issues…? as mentioned privately, I think Smudge could give some input
I will reach out for him tomorrow!( into evening time there now)
Perhaps Smudge can suggest some actual experiments along these lines ?

Respectfully
Chet
PS
No stone left unturned!!

floodrod · « **Reply #7 on:** February 18, 2023, 08:12:30 PM »

Thanks the the update..

Seems I was wrong about the status.. Google was a little confusing to me, but apparently they didn't pay to keep it active.

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     FURTHER INFORMATION :   PATENT EXPIRED FOR FAILURE TO PAY MAINTENANCE FEES (ORIGINAL EVENT CODE: EXP.); ENTITY STATUS OF PATENT OWNER: SMALL ENTITY
    Event date :   2023/01/03
    Event code :   FP
    Code Expl.:   - LAPSED DUE TO FAILURE TO PAY MAINTENANCE FEE
      EFFECTIVE DATE :   20221109

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