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kolbacict

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Re: Serious HES derivative project proposal
« Reply #135 on: May 22, 2023, 11:59:26 AM »
There is no EMF again in my white wire. Why?
There is a rotating magnetic field, but there is no EMF from it.
Where is the EMF promised by Dr. Holcomb ?! >:(
Only 1 volt on 40 turns.

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Re: Serious HES derivative project proposal
« Reply #136 on: May 22, 2023, 03:01:49 PM »
Because your white wire has to be wound over the inner tube, from side to side.
Not over tube wall.
The way you did it- cancelling EMF will be induced in the loop in both sides of the tube wall.


PS.
No ferromagnetic inside the tube. Air gap is huge. Expect large current in the drive windings to create B field.


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Re: Serious HES derivative project proposal
« Reply #137 on: May 22, 2023, 04:17:06 PM »
There is no EMF again in my white wire. Why?
There is a rotating magnetic field, but there is no EMF from it.
Where is the EMF promised by Dr. Holcomb ?! >:(
Only 1 volt on 40 turns.
Hi kolbacict,
I don't believe Holcomb.
The single phase induction motor rotor when in motion in the pulsating flux from a singly excited stator field does create a RMF, but you'll never see the RMF without the rotor in motion. Point is that when you take various parts from different equipments, you should not necessarily expect to see what you think was there in the original entirety. It may be fun and learning experiments, but to search for Holcomb effect in a moving magnetic field, it would be more fruitful to start with a known moving magnetic field such as the RMF from a 3-phase stator or sequence pulsed coils. Just my opinion.
And to Mr. Rakarskiy, have you had any success in finding this "Holcomb induction" in any physical experiment? Please share.
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kolbacict

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Re: Serious HES derivative project proposal
« Reply #138 on: May 22, 2023, 05:30:38 PM »
Hi everyone.
I think my experiment was more like this.

Want to check if the pump will work?  ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZX0m6BV_v0&t=1s
I think this is брехня. :) IMHO

pix

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Re: Serious HES derivative project proposal
« Reply #139 on: May 22, 2023, 05:57:16 PM »
Nope.
That's why your EMF isvery low.
And because there is no ferromagnetic inside tube, don't expect efficiency out of it.

Ufopolitics

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Re: Serious HES derivative project proposal
« Reply #140 on: May 22, 2023, 07:41:50 PM »
Hi everyone.
I think my experiment was more like this.
I think this is брехня. :) IMHO


Hello Kolbacict,
As Pix is saying...


You have it WRONG Friend!!
I already pointed out your issue a while back.
Coils MUST BE FACING COILS...Inductor>>Induced face to face.
Not side ways!!


Take care


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bistander

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Re: Serious HES derivative project proposal
« Reply #141 on: May 22, 2023, 07:59:11 PM »
There is no EMF again in my white wire. Why?
There is a rotating magnetic field, but there is no EMF from it.
Where is the EMF promised by Dr. Holcomb ?! >:(
Only 1 volt on 40 turns.

Or it could be that your 40 turns are divided 10 - 20 - 10 and the two 10 turn groups cancel the 20 turns because they are wound wrong direction. Try it with only the 20 turns.
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kolbacict

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Re: Serious HES derivative project proposal
« Reply #142 on: May 22, 2023, 09:21:45 PM »
Or it could be that your 40 turns are divided 10 - 20 - 10 and the two 10 turn groups cancel the 20 turns because they are wound wrong direction. Try it with only the 20 turns.
bi
At first I had only one winding of 15 turns between two poles. EMF was exactly the same, about 1 volt.
Just measured the phasing of opposite coils with help a permanent magnet. Where am I wrong? The magnetic flux moves along the steel ring inside my winding. However there is no EMF in the winding. I can change the phasing by soldering the ends of the winding. It's not a problem.

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Re: Serious HES derivative project proposal
« Reply #143 on: May 22, 2023, 09:41:17 PM »
At first I had only one winding of 15 turns between two poles. EMF was exactly the same, about 1 volt.
Just measured the phasing of opposite coils with help a permanent magnet. Where am I wrong? The magnetic flux moves along the steel ring inside my winding. However there is no EMF in the winding. I can change the phasing by soldering the ends of the winding. It's not a problem.
Looks like it is a 4-pole machine. Original coils should produce N - S - N - S on inside pole faces with DC applied. Then steel tube between N & S face should be flux path and if coils are excited with AC, should induce transformer secondary voltage in added coil between original pole faces.
But as I said before, this is not a moving magnetic field, just varying, or alternating.
When there is the solid rotor, magnetic field vector is radial. But when rotor is replaced by tube, field or flux path follows the short cut connecting poles N to S.
The standard RMF is a radial directed vector which rotates around circumference, but always has direction along radius across air gap.  Once you remove/replace parts, all bets are off.
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Re: Serious HES derivative project proposal
« Reply #144 on: May 22, 2023, 11:29:38 PM »
Hello SolarLab

I think my material will be useful to you:

https://rakatskiy-blogspot-com.translate.goog/2022/11/blog-post.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ru&_x_tr_pto=wapp

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flux_switching_alternator

The generators OU at Flynn (USA) and Kornilov (RF) are built on this principle. Currently, both are dead and the technology is classified or destroyed.

the first machine on a similar principle was built in Germany (1934-35):

https://patents.google.com/patent/US2116353A/en


Hi Rakarskiy,

Thanks - Have been following your Blog and videos (including your commentaries) for a while now and find them all
extremely "technically" useful and very interesting. You demonstrate some great insight into CE, and such, as well, IMHO.

Looking forward to your book, even if it's sold at the typical high tech publication price! Have a feeling it will be well
worth the cost (even at 5_X !) and it's desperately needed, especially now. 

Also, thanks for translating/publishing your Blog in EN - my UKR/RU is poor at best. Plus - found the Google page link quite
well done - that's the kind of format (subject - text, animations, videos, etc.) I'm trying to do using a VPS (server scheme).

Take care and stay safe...

Regards,

SL


rakarskiy

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Re: Serious HES derivative project proposal
« Reply #145 on: May 23, 2023, 08:31:43 AM »


Hi Rakarskiy,

Thanks - Have been following your Blog and videos (including your commentaries) for a while now and find them all
extremely "technically" useful and very interesting. You demonstrate some great insight into CE, and such, as well, IMHO.

SL

Hello!

At one time, I was strongly recommended not to popularize this technology (magnetic flux switching).
Today it is the most closed technology for the production of electricity and super-efficient motors.

This is my new blog post: https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2023/05/blog-post.html

Sincerely!

PS
To understand how Holcomb or Figuere systems work, you need to understand how a synchronous generator works with wire laid in a groove or wound on coils.
It works exactly like a transformer, to make a generator you need to force the main field in the core to form - phase current.


kolbacict

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Re: Serious HES derivative project proposal
« Reply #146 on: May 23, 2023, 08:55:05 AM »
I have understood my mistake.
Real magnetic field is moving  as my second picture.
I removed one extra winding that was turned on towards and interfered.
And EMF was raise in two time. :)
But I did not find a virtual rotating field, divorced from reality. :(

rakarskiy

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Re: Serious HES derivative project proposal
« Reply #147 on: May 23, 2023, 09:55:58 AM »
But I did not find a virtual rotating field, divorced from reality. :(

You've made good progress! Now learn everything there is about magnetically conductive circuits. You do not put a wire 0.1 mm in diameter for a current of 10A. Electrical and magnetic resistance, it is very similar in principle of operation.
You have an excitation field, but you don't have a field from the phase. These two fields in one magnetic circuit must match.
PS. your piece of iron is not the best option for a generator magnetic circuit, but as a rake, if it comes, even very much.

kolbacict

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Re: Serious HES derivative project proposal
« Reply #148 on: May 23, 2023, 06:16:27 PM »
You've made good progress!
:)
With all that said, pay attention. Take for example my four-coil motor.
If you switch the coils in a circle in turn with a mechanical switch to create a rotating field, for example, yours.
It is necessary that the current was simultaneously available in two adjacent coils.
This is necessary so that the magnetic field moves only forward, but does not return back.

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Re: Serious HES derivative project proposal
« Reply #149 on: May 23, 2023, 07:56:53 PM »
Hello!

At one time, I was strongly recommended not to popularize this technology (magnetic flux switching).
Today it is the most closed technology for the production of electricity and super-efficient motors.

This is my new blog post: https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2023/05/blog-post.html

Sincerely!

PS
To understand how Holcomb or Figuere systems work, you need to understand how a synchronous generator works with wire laid in a groove or wound on coils.
It works exactly like a transformer, to make a generator you need to force the main field in the core to form - phase current.


Hi Rakarskiy,

I know what you mean about not popularizing magnetic flux switching, I'll say no more.

Question - I don't understand when you say "force the main field in the core to form - phase current."

Could you explain, or elaborate a bit more, on what you mean by "phase current?"

TIA - Also, see this post for some reference information on Magnetic Circuit:
https://overunity.com/12794/re-inventing-the-wheel-part1-clemente_figuera-the-infinite-energy-machine/msg578168/#msg578168

SL