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Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2023, 01:23:13 AM »
Thanks, This gives me good ideas on what I might want to try next, Still waiting on some ebay sales in order to get more money to buy those mosfets. And other parts  ;D

What exact parts do you want to buy?

Link to what you're wanting and some of us will get you what you need

I appreciate your line of experimentation and want to encourage your progress

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Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2023, 08:24:43 AM »
Well here goes for those who are interested and following  ;D I'm not lying about the ebay sales thing to make it sound good, If anyone of you are into ham radio stuff send me a private message, You might like what I have for sale, I'm not going to start listing my sales on these forums as the topic is not appropriate here., So just send me a private if you like,. So yeah what I'm looking for on my list:

(2)ISD1820 Voice Recording Recorder Playback Module https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000117283510.html?spm=a2g0o.ppclist.product.36.785eN8NxN8Nxnz&pdp_npi=2%40dis%21USD%21US%20%242.78%21%241.89%21%21%21%21%21%402101d1bb16719949476468476e2570%2110000000309510908%21btf&_t=pvid%3A1b580833-92fd-4682-8a1b-363304d68076&afTraceInfo=4000117283510__pc__pcBridgePPC__xxxxxx__1671994947&gatewayAdapt=4itemAdapt

I want to experiment with recording my custom waveform frequencies into this chip, saving it and playing it back on loop mode, instead of a speaker it drives a transistor or mosfet. As a switch. I could make something with a 555 or similar but with the Parkinsons my hands shake too much for working with little circuit boards and a solder station. So this is my quick work around instead of using a tablet or cell phones sound output.


(5)BTA40-700B BTA40 High Power Bidirectional Thyristor   https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004108996863.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.27.3a3b4000yGugDj&algo_pvid=1696398a-e071-4ddc-9c92-12f8a895d932&algo_exp_id=1696398a-e071-4ddc-9c92-12f8a895d932-13&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000028061037277%22%7D&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21CAD%211.68%211.6%21%21%21%21%21%40211bd8be16767031249093072d0763%2112000028061037277%21sea%21CA%210&curPageLogUid=lEshdGQVccRP

Some high power Triacs. Hopefully these wont pop as much with the cap dumps.

(2) https://www.ebay.com/itm/144130345062?var=443434748235

Simple low voltage Square wave generator module. I use these in my various switching circuits. Saves me from having to build my own module for this feature.

(2) Neon bulb ne-2h 6x18 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32346512958.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.31.55b4796aqUgn3c&algo_pvid=dbbfaf1e-d755-4635-ab34-88ddaf662ce6&algo_exp_id=dbbfaf1e-d755-4635-ab34-88ddaf662ce6-15&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2251666719826%22%7D&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21CAD%213.17%213.17%21%21%21%21%21%4021021d7b16767037183641096d074c%2151666719826%21sea%21CA%210&curPageLogUid=V7D3F3kL2Mx7

Neon lamps for various triggers.


(2) 1N5362B (5W 28V) https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32828310431.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1.106c6eddcB37sD&algo_pvid=998880a6-b3a0-4bc3-af54-5935b445fffc&algo_exp_id=998880a6-b3a0-4bc3-af54-5935b445fffc-0&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2265010561482%22%7D&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21CAD%213.89%213.7%21%21%21%21%21%40211be59e16767040827416663d0736%2165010561482%21sea%21CA%210&curPageLogUid=uiG4THde2zMC

Zener didoes I would like to experiment with to replace those neon triggers.

-various high power mosfets and transistors. Various values, I been given many examples from recommendations.  Vast options and generics here. some folks may already have a "junk" stash laying around! So if someone where to donate me any of these I'd take what ever as I can most likely use it as long as it handles high power so no little 2N2222A hehe.

-Conductive paint. Lots of it. Enough to paint thousands of sheets of paper to build my high voltage cells that will feed a spark gap/cap dump assembly and charge batteries,  Stick foil on the other side.


So I understand this is a long list. I don't expect anyone to get me any of this. Just that it's been asked a few times now so here it is.

Thanks for the info. links are just examples. I'm sure there are better sources out there!

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Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2023, 11:31:10 AM »
Some help that someone may be able to help me with, I'm trying to extend the cap dump method without needing an inverter if I want to "self" operate. Right now if you eliminate the inverter you can't get the back end to charge to front end, the inverter acts as the isolator between the two as well. It's just the inverter takes a few watts of idle power from the internal circuitry and what not. I would like to eliminate that extra load if I could find a better way to isolate the two? any ideas?

John Bedini used opto-isolators As I can see I'm just not sure how I'd incorporate that with my existing circuits, Just pondering. Since we are talking about cap dumps.

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Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2023, 11:36:00 AM »
  Have you considered boost converters. There is a fully isolated version. Bit spendy and have different voltage out settings.
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Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2023, 01:05:48 PM »
Thanks for the info, I have a few of those modules near by, Never thought of taking advantage of the isolating feature of the boost converter, I will look into that for sure.

Why I'm so anal over the cap dump method is simply because a video from dr peter Lindemann on Aaron Murakami book site states that john Bedini was only able to get perpetual motion or near if you want to consider years of operation from the same battery bank. Was using cap dump methods, He admits on the site from one of the conference video's that John was only able to produce these effects with cap dumps, But later on when it came to charging a separate industrial battery bank of like 48 volts, It was much better to use the radiant directly. But this was not a setup for "Self running" Just charging an isolated bank.  It seems from the various insinuations around John did that way back in the day with the original gravity wheel and got "bored", As in the perpetual stuff. Personally I think the idea of a motor self operating and able to do moderate work at the same time (the cromley or how ever its spelt motor) for example is a better deal for the general user, Where you have this thing that self runs and you get to use a few watts to drive a small lamp without draining the battery etc.. vs trying to charge industrial 48 volt banks. Not everyone has that setup or is it practical or portable for real world use. I wonder why john stepped away from what I think is the much better achievements.

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Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2023, 01:25:14 PM »
Not all are true isolated. Most are ground shared. The ones I got from Amzon did share gnd.
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Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2023, 05:25:49 AM »
Thanks for the info, I have a few of those modules near by, Never thought of taking advantage of the isolating feature of the boost converter, I will look into that for sure.

Why I'm so anal over the cap dump method is simply because a video from dr peter Lindemann on Aaron Murakami book site states that john Bedini was only able to get perpetual motion or near if you want to consider years of operation from the same battery bank. Was using cap dump methods, He admits on the site from one of the conference video's that John was only able to produce these effects with cap dumps, But later on when it came to charging a separate industrial battery bank of like 48 volts, It was much better to use the radiant directly. But this was not a setup for "Self running" Just charging an isolated bank.  It seems from the various insinuations around John did that way back in the day with the original gravity wheel and got "bored", As in the perpetual stuff. Personally I think the idea of a motor self operating and able to do moderate work at the same time (the cromley or how ever its spelt motor) for example is a better deal for the general user, Where you have this thing that self runs and you get to use a few watts to drive a small lamp without draining the battery etc.. vs trying to charge industrial 48 volt banks. Not everyone has that setup or is it practical or portable for real world use. I wonder why john stepped away from what I think is the much better achievements.

Why I'm so anal over the cap dump method is simply because a video from dr peter Lindemann on Aaron Murakami book site states that john Bedini was only able to get perpetual motion or near if you want to consider years of operation from the same battery bank. Was using cap dump methods, He admits on the site from one of the conference video's that John was only able to produce these effects with cap dumps, But later on when it came to charging a separate industrial battery bank of like 48 volts, It was much better to use the radiant directly. But this was not a setup for "Self running" Just charging an isolated bank.  It seems from the various insinuations around John did that way back in the day with the original gravity wheel and got "bored", As in the perpetual stuff. Personally I think the idea of a motor self operating and able to do moderate work at the same time (the cromley or how ever its spelt motor) for example is a better deal for the general user, Where you have this thing that self runs and you get to use a few watts to drive a small lamp without draining the battery etc.. vs trying to charge industrial 48 volt banks. Not everyone has that setup or is it practical or portable for real world use. I wonder why john stepped away from what I think is the much better achievements.
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Hey Joel

Hope you are well

I think John realised that what he had was around 98 or 99% efficient.  After years of claiming OU he would be a fool to suddenly change his tune, very much like vegetarians that claim awesome health but then after 2 years of eating too clean, they realize they have nutrient deficiencies an\d have to go back to some animal products to get whats needed.

Look....I always play devils advocate and look fair on both sides.  Im a genuine researcher and engineer.  99% efficiency IS amazing and looks OU.  Hell its better than any tech thats currently out there.  But the world and money doesnt work that way.  Most appliances are super crap and wasteful and the energy companies love that.  They dont want to rebuild everything and have us use less power.

Then theres the University stale boffins that refuse to believe that there can be something better.  Fact is there are ways to draw energy from elsewhere but the system is dead against it for now.  So what happened with Rick and John is they realized they didnt have enough and needed to shoot for the stars- which they NEVER ever were going to do with rotating battery banks.  Instead they just went to energy conferences and talked pseudo nonsense and took handouts.  Whats worse they purposely posted rubbish schematics that kept people away from what they had.  If they had just shared then smarter minds combined would have perhaps helped out.....but hey after that nobody would come to their energy conferences anymore either would they!!    Lindemann was useless also and he perpetuated the lie.

  They also took payments for machines they never delivered.   +Fraudsters

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Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2023, 06:50:31 AM »
Hi all, i am testing some lower microfarad capacitors, i have a few actual photo flash
caps taken from those throw away cameras.
Testing a 120uF-330volt rubycon photo flash capacitor.
I have the 555 timer set to discharge at a typical machine gun frequency.
A small thumping or tapping can be heard from the capacitor itself, as it discharges.
The capacitor is discharging at around 18.5 volts for every pulse, into a 12 volt sla battery.


It is charging the battery very effectively.
I think it's more like a jack hammer effect, it may not blast the battery with one big impulse.
Though it takes many small, rapid impulses and it can get closer to the super charging effect,
that people like Nikola Tesla observed, when using short sharp capacitor impulses.
Will continue the experiments.
peace love light :)
 

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Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2023, 10:47:32 AM »
Hi all, i am testing some lower microfarad capacitors, i have a few actual photo flash
caps taken from those throw away cameras.
Testing a 120uF-330volt rubycon photo flash capacitor.
I have the 555 timer set to discharge at a typical machine gun frequency.
A small thumping or tapping can be heard from the capacitor itself, as it discharges.
The capacitor is discharging at around 18.5 volts for every pulse, into a 12 volt sla battery.


It is charging the battery very effectively.
I think it's more like a jack hammer effect, it may not blast the battery with one big impulse.
Though it takes many small, rapid impulses and it can get closer to the super charging effect,
that people like Nikola Tesla observed, when using short sharp capacitor impulses.
Will continue the experiments.
peace love light :)
Hi SkyWatcher, Can you put a schematic of the cap dump circuit?
thanks.

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Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2023, 12:22:02 PM »
It is charging the battery very effectively.
I think it's more like a jack hammer effect, it may not blast the battery with one big impulse.
Though it takes many small, rapid impulses and it can get closer to the super charging effect,
that people like Nikola Tesla observed, when using short sharp capacitor impulses.
Will continue the experiments.
peace love light :)

I think this is the way to go is with the cap dump. It's not so much the size of backEMF coil or what ever, People in my comments section on youtube seem to ask/care more about the backEMF side of the process, And to me that's the least important as I'm not feeding the "radiant" directly into batteries. I just use it to quickly charge capacitors at higher voltages, Heck I can do the same thing with a simple joule thief oscillator if I had no other choice. Or just find a 24 vdc power supply and do direct charging to that cap etc.... We can use what ever method we feel is right to charge the cap. The important thing is how and at what frequency it gets discharged. So building cap dump controller circuits is the important thing to look into right now. As I see batteries do a "Funny" thing with the cap dump. Worth while exploring. The SCR thing blow up often so the MOSFET and possibly using low current solid state relays is a good alternative. Thanks for all the info.

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Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
« Reply #25 on: February 20, 2023, 05:54:02 PM »
Why I'm so anal over the cap dump method is simply because a video from dr peter Lindemann on Aaron Murakami book site states that john Bedini was only able to get perpetual motion or near if you want to consider years of operation from the same battery bank. Was using cap dump methods, He admits on the site from one of the conference video's that John was only able to produce these effects with cap dumps, But later on when it came to charging a separate industrial battery bank of like 48 volts, It was much better to use the radiant directly. But this was not a setup for "Self running" Just charging an isolated bank.  It seems from the various insinuations around John did that way back in the day with the original gravity wheel and got "bored", As in the perpetual stuff. Personally I think the idea of a motor self operating and able to do moderate work at the same time (the cromley or how ever its spelt motor) for example is a better deal for the general user, Where you have this thing that self runs and you get to use a few watts to drive a small lamp without draining the battery etc.. vs trying to charge industrial 48 volt banks. Not everyone has that setup or is it practical or portable for real world use. I wonder why john stepped away from what I think is the much better achievements.


Hey Joel

Hope you are well

I think John realised that what he had was around 98 or 99% efficient.  After years of claiming OU he would be a fool to suddenly change his tune, very much like vegetarians that claim awesome health but then after 2 years of eating too clean, they realize they have nutrient deficiencies an\d have to go back to some animal products to get whats needed.

Look....I always play devils advocate and look fair on both sides.  Im a genuine researcher and engineer.  99% efficiency IS amazing and looks OU.  Hell its better than any tech thats currently out there.  But the world and money doesnt work that way.  Most appliances are super crap and wasteful and the energy companies love that.  They dont want to rebuild everything and have us use less power.

Then theres the University stale boffins that refuse to believe that there can be something better.  Fact is there are ways to draw energy from elsewhere but the system is dead against it for now.  So what happened with Rick and John is they realized they didnt have enough and needed to shoot for the stars- which they NEVER ever were going to do with rotating battery banks.  Instead they just went to energy conferences and talked pseudo nonsense and took handouts.  Whats worse they purposely posted rubbish schematics that kept people away from what they had.  If they had just shared then smarter minds combined would have perhaps helped out.....but hey after that nobody would come to their energy conferences anymore either would they!!    Lindemann was useless also and he perpetuated the lie.

  They also took payments for machines they never delivered.   +Fraudsters


They were not fraudsters what they did was play the game by giving little bits of information here and there and then watch to see who could take those bits and turn them into a working machine that would run it’s self plus produce power. John’s ferris wheel was his final example of all his work, it was a big example of a free energy machine that Bearden talked about in video nine of Energy from the Vacuum series at the 23:32 mark. Not many know what John was displaying in that machine that had the three inductors. John also talks about it on Bill Jenkins old radio shows, he tells Bill he has the three coil system in use way back then. The zero force motor also produces a similar result as the ferris wheel.

Erfinder who frequented many of these forums back in the day shared quite a bit of insight into his research into Johns Ferris wheel and zero force motor. These machines are very low drag in operation.

What many miss is that a pulse motor that harnesses the coil collapse will never be more out than in until you install extra low drag generating coils that are used to put the machine over the top. Peter Lindemann also has demonstrated such a machine it had 4 low drag generating coils and two power coils , it also had the three battery system battery swapper attached to it. As I see it you do not need the three battery system to produce the results of more out than in. Peter could have added more low drag generating coils until he had more out than in. As Peter said that machine he made was flea power, it was gutless for lack of better wording.

It is the principle of the devices which should be looked into, John and Peter were trying to tell you with out telling you. It may have been a game to see who could figure it out, but when you really look at it who out there in the free energy community has offered you more than them? It takes real work and perseverance to succeed in this field. They were not going to just hand it all over to everyone for free.

Paul Babcock, Jim Murray, Toby Grotz etc. also have revealed excellent information that will help the serious experimenter. I believe every pulse driven motor must be looked at as what it is and that is they are motor generators that do return the feedback to the front end battery and also to the secondary battery or capacitor. It is not over unity until you add in extra low drag generating coils. All the greats had motor coils and feed back coils (generating coils) on their machines, the two go hand in hand.

Dave Wing

Both John and Peter claimed the SG was upto 95% electrically efficient with 28% mechanical output if you built it right. I never have heard them say anything more than this, except for the Ferris Wheel machine which I was told indirectly it was 350watts over unity.
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Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2023, 05:08:27 PM »
Hi all, Hi erfandl, i will get to work on drawing the capacitor dump circuit i am using.
Hi joellagace, good thoughts you are sharing, i appreciate the work you are doing.
I think the good effects in these capacitor dump devices, are caused by things similar
or equal to, the electret effect.
An electret effect, is seen in the dump capacitor, due to the impulsing, and is most likely
also occurring within the charge battery.
With proper tuning (ultra sharp impulses) and the lowest possible load resistance, (it is
why Bedini used those
gigantic telephone batteries, because they had ultra low resistance, as do ultra capacitors)
super charging effects can happen.
peace love light :)

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Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2023, 09:28:03 PM »
Hi all, here is the mosfet cap dump circuit, at the moment.
peace love light


https://i.postimg.cc/hjDgvw73/Mosfet-Capacitor-Dump-Circuit1.png

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Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
« Reply #28 on: February 23, 2023, 03:35:57 AM »
Here is another method I found works well for charging capacitors if you have the luck of being able to put up some sort of outside rx antenna,

Here it is working: https://youtu.be/aE5mmG5JKTM

Here I have a simple AC voltage multiplier circuit. These are typically used to step up low AC voltages to high voltage spark output.

I decided to use the concept with very small value capacitors and small ultra fast switching RF diodes to multiply the 0.5 volts or so stray ambient voltages that come from natural and man made sources.  These energy fields may be laying around should you be located anywhere half civilized. even a town.

I'm able to get over 30 volts DC for free from the nearby ambient with a simple outdoor ham radio antenna. Using one antenna ground and the other for receive.

Using voltage multiplier this way does not give that much current. How ever, We can use this method to quickly charge capacitors at high voltages, similar to how I do with back emf, however this method proves that when you have no other source of input power available, no batteries, no chemicals, no sun, no water no wind etc. We can borrow it from the ambient! with the addition of various cap dump circuits, dump the high voltage charge from the capacitor into a set of charging batteries and charge for free! COP = infinite as you don't have to provide a penny of your money to get your output charge. This works rain or shine. Day and night.

Just thought I'd share an alternative method to accumulate a charge.

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Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2023, 03:14:17 AM »
Hi all, Hi joellagace, thanks for the informative post.

I will have to ponder that idea of energy collection, though i think
that method has been used in large scale ways, in a previous era.

Would be good for the people to know, that this technology is still
in use today, though guised from the people.

As far as these mosfet capacitor dump experiments, I've decided
to try and rejuvenate a 12 volt lawn mower battery, 7 years old.
Already seeing positive results, though it will take many hours of
charge/discharge cycles.
I've gone back to the 5600uF low esr capacitor, this capacitor is the
perfect sweet spot.
Using 19.5 volts input to the oscillator, which helps charge the
capacitor higher
The capacitor is being dumped once every second and is building a
capacitor voltage of around 27 volts per capacitor discharge.
This is having a strong effect on the battery, will be keeping track of
battery improvements over time.


All benevolent comments welcome.
peace love light