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joellagace

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100 watts output with 60ma input
« on: February 03, 2023, 11:28:31 PM »
Thought I'd share this here. Here is my video of my latest device with Back EMF charging.

Runs an old school 100 watts 60 hertz AC bulb from the inverter, Battery holds and charges up at the same time from Back EMF cap dump. The back EMF stage controller only needing 9 volts DC 60 ma input to operate and produces hundreds of volts of BackEMF collecting charging a capacitor that dumps this into the battery 2 times a second at 100 volts.

https://youtu.be/QYpwTJJ3lh8

I fixed up my 9 volts dc 60 ma radiant trigger back emf and 100 volts cap charge and dump circuit controller and generator by taking away much of the high impedance test lead clips and replaced with  short thick wires. Especially for the back emf coil and cap dump stage. In a previous video. A more sloppy version of this I was able to run and maintain a 15-20 watt load from the charging battery without the v/i curve going down, It was going up!

With this improved setup, It now appears, I'm now able to do the same thing with holding a real 100 watts load on the battery while charging it with the radiant cap dump device at the same time . Heavy emphasis the whole input stage only needing 9 volts dc 60ma from a wall transformer power supply. This is my small input trigger requirement. That is it. The rest of the energy as Bedini would say comes from the Vacuum or Negative Energy. The battery reacts to these steady voltage discharges from the capacitor and transduces this pulse into real steady current of 100 watts while maintaining a v/i curve or charging curve instead of a decline curve as one would expect while running a 100 watt load for 15 minutes. A kind of negative resistor.

This video is a little longer, Its about 15 mins. I wanted to show you start to finish what goes on, Very similar to the "kromrey generator" At first start the battery shows a slight voltage drop of a few points, after 2 minutes the v/i curve stabilizes and soon starts to raise steady as long as the battery keeps getting that high voltage cap dump pulse 2 times a second all while maintaining a 100 watt load. I can hear a kind of boil sound when I put my ear next to the battery so it must be doing something! This setup holds the big 100 watt load without the v/i curve going continuously down, after about 15 min run time in this video, you really see the increase of voltage by many points in comparison to the start of this demonstration as the v/i curve goes (charges) up. Sorry for the length. It takes this much time to show you without editing the video what is happening. It runs the opposite! This is an awesome COP value. 9 volts 60ma input and 110 volts 100 watts 60 hertz output. Or more if you want to take the inverter power consumption as well into consideration and all other losses.

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Re: 100 watts output with 60ma input
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2023, 03:12:08 PM »
   Then why don't you do a real test, like for a day or two? As 15 minutes test runs are not very conclusive. To see if your 9v DC battery charger is really charging the bigger car battery, or not. Volts are going up, while amps may be dropping. A longer test run will show if that is what is really happening, instead.   
  NickZ

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Re: 100 watts output with 60ma input
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2023, 04:20:49 PM »
I did just this, I know it works all day. I did several tests with this. But yeah I admit I'm not a lab or anything. Many would argue that cutting even random lengths of what ever thickest wire I have around and just whipping something together  as "scientific" I get it and just hope to inspire and share what I know. It may not be very useful to some on these forums I get it.  But I'm sure for some others this might be the information they are looking for.

As far as making more videos I don't think your suggesting that I record this for 2 or more days and publish as a video just to prove it works? I already know it works. I'm sure the folks can take the information or leave it. Modify it replicate it, make it better in anyway anyone wishes from this point on.

We are not all pros and experts in the field of free energy here. As much as some members here may feel they are indeed.  This is a community forum. We are all amateurs and hobbyists of varying levels. As for the ones who have figured out real marketable free energy devices are already racking up the cash, Has patents etc.. sitting in an executive possession and I can guarantee you is not hanging out in these forums, The others that have any process that could be considered a threat to the status quo end up being censored. And make a deal with the government.

I'm not targeting the last post specifically, I just feel from the general vibe I been getting in these forums from the last close to 10 years I been a member here. Not all but a big part of the replies are naysayers (same member names I notice doing this in many posts from random users as well) that are being as arrogant as welcoming me to the forums as a new user lmao. I been here for years posting... And the naysayers are basing their rational on their own expert knowledge. Of apparently being a bunch of highly educated expert specialists in the FE field, insinuating I don't understand etc.  So ....Instead of sitting behind a device trying to sound like the smartest bunch why not come up with the video's yourself and publish your findings and help us amateurs out? If the naysayer groups of folks don't want to help, why try and discourage others that may want to research and experiment with similar methods?

A lot of this seems to be "I don't agree/understand it personally, so fake news"

Just pondering.  8)

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Re: 100 watts output with 60ma input
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2023, 06:02:55 PM »
Hi Joel;
I just watched your video and find it (As Spock would say) Fascinating!!!
I have messed around with Bedini and other circuits over the years but never could manage to get the battery to maintain let alone recharge like your setup is showing.
Please could you post a schematic of your setup so that we could attempt to replicate your findings, I'm especially interested in your cap dump setup.
Thanks for sharing.



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Re: 100 watts output with 60ma input
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2023, 01:11:44 AM »
  Ok well, all I asked for was for a longer run time. You can do overnight test runs, or all day runs. Short videos of the time started, and time ended. As we have not seen it doing so, it would help to convince us that your device can self run, all day all night,  etc ...   As THAT we have never seen.
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Re: 100 watts output with 60ma input
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2023, 02:33:36 AM »
NickZ;
I think he answered that question already in the sense that take what information he has given us and replicate it.
"As far as making more videos I don't think your suggesting that I record this for 2 or more days and publish as a video just to prove it works? I already know it works. I'm sure the folks can take the information or leave it. Modify it replicate it, make it better in anyway anyone wishes from this point on."
Until we can replicate Joel's setup we cannot determine whether it works or not without proper replication information.
Can you wait until he responds with a schematic so we can verify his claims rather than asking for proof.  It seems that Joel is onto something I haven't seen before so please wait for a replication circuit.
That would be the proper scientific approach, don't you agree?
I have taken a look at Joel's video but can't determine the circuit arrangement, so if he does post his schematic it would be a start in proving whether this works or not, so that's my thoughts for what they're are worth.

Respectfully,Goat



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Re: 100 watts output with 60ma input
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2023, 03:39:34 AM »
I'm working on it, There has been lots of changes to it, This was just an on the spot thing. I know not very scientific lol but I did it based on some ideas I had in mind. So I had some sort of template. It was just to prove a quick point because some did not like my previous capacitive power supply circuits. So I literally offered an alternative and built a demo in about an hour. I have since worked on it and made it better since.

I try and explain as much as I can, I don't build very much I don't have the stable hands for it! But I do research and experiment lots. If I can find what I need in functions from already built modules I just buy the premade modules and slam together what I want.

Like my drive circuit is just an ebay 7$ square wave and cycle duty generator. It has a little LCD to help program the unit. It runs on 4-12 volt. I use it to trigger NPN transistor as a switch, Pulsing the negative side. on and off into the big coil that I made out of around 250-300 feet of telephone cable measuring at 1.9 ohms. Some have asked how I keep the current draw to no more then 60ma, That is because I use such low cycle duty of 10% or less on the control pulse.

As far as frequency and resonance goes of this coil, I just upped the hertz until I started to hear the clicks (cap dumps slow down) I then went the other way down until I hear the slowing again and just went to the middle of that range at around 180 hertz, And this is how I "tuned"

As far as the cap dump circuit goes, I had problems with it, No one seemed to be able to help me with Cap dump circuits, I even sent that Rick guy from R-charge some questions and never got an answer. I must have blown about 25 SCR diodes before getting the hang of the cap dump method. I have never been able to get the cap dump to behave the proper way following any of John Bednidi's cap dump circuits so I had to experiment with just that stage for a while and came up with my own arrangement that worked,

I simply send the back EMF to a charging cap, an SCR and neon dump arrangement is setup so that at 100 volts the neon triggers the SCR and that dumps the negative side into the battery, when the cap voltage gets equal to the battery and current flow stops the SCR gate closes and the cap takes around 200ms to recharge to 100 volts and the dump happens again.

The neon thing works but after about 24 hours it just stops working, I simply "Reset" and good to go again for another day, From what I read that's a kind of polarizing effect on the neon after several hours of pulsing. So i'm thinking of replacing that with 110 volt Zener instead.

But yeah I'm getting close to satisfied now and will try and post some kind of schematic or a block diagram of the modules connection arrangements at the very least on my next videos like I have done in the past for other methods I experimented with.


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Re: 100 watts output with 60ma input
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2023, 02:45:42 PM »
   Goat:   I have not suggested that you do anything at all.
It seems that you can't understand what I posted. 
 If,  take it or leave it,  is his attitude, then I will wait and see.
You can do as you like.    If showing the lighting of a bulb for 15 minutes from a big car battery, through an inverter is all he wants to show, then so be it. I do need more proof than just that. And showing it self running for a  longer period is all I asked for. Without excuses...

    NickZ

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Re: 100 watts output with 60ma input
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2023, 02:54:07 PM »


Hello
my test. The SCR could also be controlled with a PWM.
Greeting
Lota

Cap-Dump Booster Schaltung - YouTube
https://youtu.be/Zf0Zq3HpwF8

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Re: 100 watts output with 60ma input
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2023, 02:56:06 PM »
The battery is chemical. The pulses excite its ions into action. You recover more capacity from a battery that has lost capacity. There are chargers that repair old batteries and operate on high pulse voltages.
Do a test and connect a large capacitor and then check the efficiency that will no longer exist.

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Re: 100 watts output with 60ma input
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2023, 03:55:58 PM »

Hello
That's right. These circuits are also used in solar systems. But without the Neo.  It doesn't work that way with a capacitor.
Greeting
Lota

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Re: 100 watts output with 60ma input
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2023, 05:22:05 PM »
The battery is chemical. The pulses excite its ions into action. You recover more capacity from a battery that has lost capacity. There are chargers that repair old batteries and operate on high pulse voltages.
Do a test and connect a large capacitor and then check the efficiency that will no longer exist.

Yes your correct.  I mention this in the video, I mention these are crap old donated batteries that I had to pulse charge for over 2 weeks with a Bedini wheel to bring back to life, I mention this and also mention the high voltage pulses to be chemical reaction inside the battery in the video as well and I mention that this action makes the ions swoosh around and I can even hear that "cold" boil Bedini talks about when I put my ear next to the battery. Interesting stuff!

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Re: 100 watts output with 60ma input
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2023, 05:28:59 PM »

Hello
my test. The SCR could also be controlled with a PWM.
Greeting
Lota

Cap-Dump Booster Schaltung - YouTube
https://youtu.be/Zf0Zq3HpwF8

I did this a while back for this circuit as well it works. I used a small motor PWM to control the cap dump with a transistor.
I rectify the half cycle output into a high voltage microwave 1UF capacitor. It takes a fraction of a second or less to fully charge this capacitor to 100 volts.

The Tesla Switched, Is a transistor capacitor dump circuit I built. It discharges this capacitor with very low cycle duty sharp timing pulses.

Here is my version of this cap dump method. I was looking for a auto method that would not take as much energy in extra control circuits so I used the neon dump method instead moving forward. I got the whole charge controller pulse circuit to take 60ma only by keeping things as simple as I can. I'm even thinking of replacing that neon with a 110 volts zener diode.

https://youtu.be/XhZRrqV8OMs




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Re: 100 watts output with 60ma input
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2023, 01:35:53 AM »
Hey Joel

Nice work.  Have worked with a lot of these type spike systems and you see similar and very interesting results.  Sometime in my experience you witness a polarizing of components and the battery itself and then the results later are not consistent.

Im not doubting what you are showing.  But if you show a schematic and parts then it helps to replicate and troubleshoot/improve

Regards

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Re: 100 watts output with 60ma input
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2023, 06:22:59 AM »
Great work Joel,


I remember some dweebing looking guy that wore a navy seal cap that had a youtube video demonstrating
exactly what you are showing.


He didn't give away any info though.


He ran a fan and lights maybe but also had an intellingent battery charger recharging the batery via the inverter.


All I remember is his first name was Peter and surname began with S i think.


Keep at it.


Garry