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builders board => Tommy Reed @ T.R.Labs => Topic started by: TommeyReed on February 03, 2023, 09:36:29 PM
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Hi All,
This is another build I will be working next.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwyqLfdynVo
Tom
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Hi Tom,
Very interesting design. i have spent many hours working with magnets and magnet motor ideas. I have great hopes for what you have designed. I do want to caution you to not forget that the repelling force works both ways. As the magnet on the rotor approaches the magnet on the slide the magnet on the slide is also repelling the magnet on the rotor. This will have a tendency to want to slow the rotor some. With a flywheel like you described that may be enough to over come the repelling force of the slide magnet against the rotor magnet. As you said you may need to adjust the size of the rotor in order to get the proper leverage of magnet against magnet to get it to work. Great design! I can't wait to see it tested out. My son just got a new 3D printer so if it looks hopeful I may draw up some parts and give this a try myself.
Take care,
Carroll
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Hi Carroll,
Thanks and happy new year. I got a new phone number and if you like I'll sent it to you.
I'm thinking of 3d printing the cone design we talked about.
Tom
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Sure! You can send me your new number. Just send me a text and say it is you. Or if you don't have my number just send me a PM from this forum. I think a 3D print of the cone idea might work if it is big enough. I think too small and we won't see the effect we are looking for. My son just got a new 3D printer also. I'll check with him and see how large a print he can make.
And a Happy New Year to you also. Good to see you back at work on your projects.
Take care,
Carroll
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Hello TR, hello Citfta,
Nice design, however, related to the mechanical movement of the two gear linear pistons, and in order to have only one directional movement, both pistons can not move in the same direction, or they will lock rotor in place.
If you want a CW rotor movement, the further away linear gear must move to the right (of screen) while the other one (closer to us), should move to the left of screen.
So, I see that you have a cross member between both pistons on both ends, making them to move at unisom...it will not work that way.
You will have to make each piston to move independently from the other.
Now, related to the magnetic pathway, both sets can not work at the same timing either, knowing by your description that both work in repulse mode and at 180º apart. They should be angle-offset, so when one side is repulsing, the other side is either at idle (doing no effect) or attracting in favour of rotation.
Anyways this was just my opinion about your design.
However, the main idea is great, it just need to be adjusted and developed further.
If you could add animation to your 3D CAD design, you may notice what I am talking about.
Regards
Ufopolitics
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Hi Ufo,
And a good day to you. I think you missed something. The rotor shaft has some one way bearings on it. And there are two gears. So as the slide assembly goes back and forth one rack turns one gear while the other rack and gear freewheel. And vice versa. So as the slide moves back and forth one rack drives one gear and then the other rack drives the other gear. The one-way bearings keep the shaft rotating the same direction. And he is not showing the flywheel which would be mounted to the shaft. Hope that helps some.
Carroll
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Hi Ufo,
And a good day to you. I think you missed something. The rotor shaft has some one way bearings on it. And there are two gears. So as the slide assembly goes back and forth one rack turns one gear while the other rack and gear freewheel. And vice versa. So as the slide moves back and forth one rack drives one gear and then the other rack drives the other gear. The one-way bearings keep the shaft rotating the same direction. And he is not showing the flywheel which would be mounted to the shaft. Hope that helps some.
Carroll
Thanks Citfta,
Ok, I see what you mean...hope it works!
Regards
Ufopolitics
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@Tommy,
This looks like a very interesting concept. Hopefully you get some more info posted when you get that parts and pieces that you've ordered.
truesearch
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Hi ALL,
This is a update on the magnet motor build.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtzEswhV1Uc
Tom
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Hi All,
I'm about 30% finished on the interesting magnet motor over unity build.
Could this be a truly Over Unity device?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj5orh_VOJ8
Tom
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Hi All,
New update on this build, I got all the parts in and lets see if this could be the first true OVER UNITY.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou7TWQ7UPq0
Tom
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Hi Tom,
I think your idea of making the gear smaller than the flywheel is a good idea. I believe that will help the flywheel over come the effect of the slide magnet wanting to push back against the flywheel magnet. And having your design adaptable for different size gears is also a great idea. I just watched you last video and everything is looking great.
I am planning to also give your idea a try. My son has a new 3D printer and I have been using FreeCad to draw up some small gears to repair a ball clock drive mechanism for the clock. His printer did a nice job of printing them once we got all the settings correct. I ordered today some one-way bearings and some chromed steel rods. I probably won't use the linear bearings as I already have a lot of other bearings. I have had pretty good success using aluminum angle as a track for bearings so I may try that at first.
Take care,
Carroll
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Hi Carroll,
Thanks for your support.
TinkerCad is free and simple to used, it has gears and you can design anything. The best part is is sends the STL files direct to a 3d printer software.
This is were you can find the link and its free.
https://www.tinkercad.com
Tom
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Hi again Tom,
I have heard of TinkerCad but I have used FreeCad before and am used to it. It also is free and works on all platforms, Windoze, Mac and Linux. It has several different work benches so even if you are used to doing Cad with some other software you can probably find a work bench that works like you are used to doing things. I use the part bench which looks like what TinkerCad uses. FreeCad also has addon modules for doing gears and other functions. Their gear program is really easy to use. Once I get some parts in I'll start designing my gears and racks to work with what I have.
I am also watching your pulse motor progress. I too use an Arduino for my projects that need a microprocessor. Looking forward to more videos from you on both projects.
Take care,
Carroll
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Hi Carroll,
Sounds great and if I can help in any way let me know.
Being open source to search for true over unity should be our main goal in OU, but money always seems to be a factor in today world.
I believe true freedom is having the knowledge to make your own energy and never depend on the rich and powerful.
Tom
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Hi All,
New update on the Magnet motor build.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FhjJXQYXJ8
Tom
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Hi All,
Update on the magnet motor build.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB6ApJth3hY
Tom
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Hi All,
New update on this magnet motor project.
I also show a design of a low rpm generator powered windmill, using the linear drive system.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26tjw75iXuo
Tom
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Hi Tom,
I saw your comment on another thread about using 4 magnets at 90 degrees to each other. I believe that will cause some problem with opposing magnets wanting to keep the slide from moving toward that opposing magnet. If you had 3 magnets at 120 degrees apart you would then get 6 magnet pushes per one rotation of the rotor with no interference from opposing magnets. Just my 2 cents.
Carroll
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Hi All,
Update on the magnet motor build.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elzr-h9L7H0
Tom
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Have to ask how you secure the one way bearings to the printed gear wheels? Not sure press fit would stand up to the hit when changing directions of the slide.
thay
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Hi Thaelin,
They are press fit, but you could use super glue also.
Tom
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Hi All,
New update on this magnet motor build.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cenv6iFKzQM
Tom
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Hi All,
New update on this magnet motor and also not good news on these magnet I ordered on Ebay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tpFwiYBkMQ&t=318s
Tom
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... not good news on these magnet I ordered on Ebay.
eBay is hit-n-miss. I've never bought magnets there, always through these guys (https://www.magnet4less.com/).
Their bigger N52s have always been so powerful, they're dangerous--smashed
a fingertip more than once and broke several plastic pry bars.
Speaking of powerful, are your rods magnetic? When I was working on a
miniature N-machine I bought some Titanium rods/shafts that worked really well.
Stronger & straighter than Aluminum and just as light.
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Yes those are metal, so magnet do effects that part of the build.
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Hi All,
New update with adding more unique mechanical flywheels and a pendulum to this build.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6u6IdQqY-Y
Tom
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@Tommey, j'aime bien l'idée...
Il faut peu d'énergie pour entretenir un Balancier comme dans une horloge, mais ne pas oublier que se sont les poids qui ont stocké l'énergie que tu vas dépenser, le balancier n'est là que pour distiller l'énergie.
Tu pourrais bien nous surprendre
Le meilleur pour la suite. :)
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French to English translation:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=german+to+english+translation&t=newext&atb=v361-1&ia=translations
Thx4, "Tommey, I like the idea... It takes little energy to maintain a pendulum as in a clock, but do not forget that it is the weights that have stored the energy you will spend, the pendulum is only there to distill the energy. You might surprise us The best for the next"
Thank you, Thx4.
Tom
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Hi All,
New update on this ratchet piston magnet motor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yMj11Crrs4&t=9s
Tom
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Hi All,
New update and how I expect to keep it running without using magnets.
I couldn't get the magnets to keep it running, but this might be a more interesting theory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mErH0LaTFc
Tom
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Hi All,
Update on the linear magnet motor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcTkl5nrRa0
Tom