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Offline joellagace

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High Efficiency Lamp Driver
« on: January 24, 2023, 11:35:53 PM »
Hello folks I wanted to share this with you all. I think it works great, thanks!

This method allows to run a 15 watt lamp with just an input drive of 60 hertz 40ma.

https://youtu.be/pr4t4JKPkYM

We can't make energy out of nothing. With that said we can find methods to use very little input source so we don't have to put in  much work or money wise to get operating. This lamp driver does just this.

I use a current reactive limiter on the mains 60 hertz power line or any other source of 60 hertz 110 volts power, Your generator, Your windmill etc....

The current limiter as per ohms law x= 1/2*3.14fc
I = v/x

So 60 hertz with around 1uf gives us about 40 ma of current only!

We use the mostly pure voltage to quickly charge a 10uf or more capacitor. With very little current input. The capacitor has an SCR diode that is triggered to dump this cap into an additional super capacitor bank a few times a second we get a pure 100 volt capacitive joule or amps per second discharge. This pumping also has an electret like effect while being pulsed as such. An additional advantage of also using a super capacitor bank is the elimination of the high impedance battery charging stage needing more current.

So basically the 12 volt super capacitor bank takes this form of converted negative energy from the reactance box and capacitor high voltage pules. back into a form of regular low voltage higher current DC positive energy  that is able to drive a very small very high efficiency high frequency AC inverter.

This inverter drives a 15 watt lamp no problem  because its high frequency. The 15 watt lamp operates at full spec lumens usually requiring an input of 15 watts. We are driving it with only an input that we need to pay for of 40ma.

The rest of the needed input is being provided by the local vacuum. And clever circuitry. Not a trick or a cheat for free energy bypass of the electric "smart" meter.  . The whole circuit except respectfully, the super capacitor stage. operates as an open looped system so it can re gauge itself.

Not only does the lamp operate at full capacity in this fashion. The voltage keeps rising on the super capacitor bank as it keeps getting many discharges of 100 volts a second from that 10+ uf capacitor dump simultaneously.  I'm actually needing to load this more with some time as the super capacitor bank can only handle around 13.5 volts. As you see from the meter the charge holds and even goes up instead of down as the super caps do a super job at converting this kind of power back into something useful!

I must point out that this lamp would not operate directly connected to the reactance X output of only 40ma! It requires 15 watts of input current at 60 hertz. We are not providing anything close to this level with this intentional current limiter stage. But at the end we are able to light bright and sustain the system with very little input drive from the operator work wise or money wise. No free lunch. Just efficient.

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Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2023, 07:57:08 AM »
Hello folks I wanted to share this with you all. I think it works great, thanks!

Pretty neat Joel!

Would you mind scratching out a basic schematic for those that may want to replicate your results?  Something that can be printed on paper for a later time should Internet access become limited.

As energy costs continue to increase, I have a hunch many folks would like to cobble together this circuit of yours with parts they may have laying around.

Thanks much for your effort and sharing what you have accomplished.

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Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2023, 11:37:17 AM »
Sure I have it on my youtube. It's called "Free Energy Generation Using The Electric Company"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVMpQQugA-0

This is the big part and important circuit. Simple but critical. The X factor reactive box that drops the current usage from the 60 hertz 110 volts to just 40ma. A kind of current gate or limiter so to speak without wasting any energy needing to pay for heating resistance to "drop" a load.  The key is to not have to use or use very little current to achieve interesting results.

For this demo the only thing I changed is instead of charging a set of batteries, Those got eliminated and replaced by a 12 volt super capacitor bank. (more efficient storage) This bank simply runs one of those ebay cheep Chinese high frequency inverters feeding the 15 watt lamp.

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Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2023, 02:41:39 PM »
Hi Joelagace,


It's nice to see a new member on the forums.  Your circuit is interesting but as was explained to you on OUR it is not a good idea.  That circuit would be severely frowned upon by the electric utility and probably illegal in many places.  What your circuit does is introduce a strongly reactive component back into the power grid.  All commercial appliances are tested to make sure they do NOT add a strongly reactive component back into the power grid.  Granted if only you were using this circuit they would probably not even notice the reactive component.   But if enough devices like yours were connected to the grid it could cause problems for the generating plant as reactive components can cause very high voltages to appear at the generating source.  By posting this circuit you are putting yourself in a position to have legal action taken against you and or any forum you post it on.


Respectfully,
Carroll

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Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2023, 03:10:40 PM »
If your so worried about the electric company and I also note this, use your own source of AC. A windmill a generator ,solar inverter. Go nuts. I'm all about the research and this circuit does not bother me for legal issues. I guess if your that worried about it complain to youtube and facebook and everywhere else its hosted now?

I'm really getting annoyed with the OUR forums. Seems like when you get to a level with this kind of research people just no longer understand once you mature to a certain level, I was about to say my farewell to the OUR group anyways. It was short lived and the folks out there really didn't get it from a  research stand point. Again I know at lease basic ohms law.

Take care and enjoy my circuits!

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Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2023, 03:16:13 PM »
If your worried about reactance you can do the same thing with a flyaback dollar store fly zapper connected to a 1.5 volt supply. With less than 50ma as well. You get 1kc spark gap. I feed this gap into a microwave transformer connected in reverse and rectify the low voltage side to DC pulses and it charges batteries and super caps the same darn way with the same amount of current. Just though i'd offer a way of doing it with less parts and more simple and without a HV spark gap!

Food for thought.

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Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2023, 03:20:00 PM »
I also run inverters to isolate some projects from the mains but I still need "mains". I tested reactance and it works fine with even cheep inverters! So have at it!

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Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2023, 03:42:32 PM »
Hi again.  As I said you have a nice circuit and it is very efficient.  But you asked for an explanation as to why others have suggested it was not a good idea to connect it to mains power.  And I have tried to give you that explanation.  I agree that connected to an inverter or other source of AC it is a good way be charge batteries or light lamps.  Please don't be discouraged by some of the comments.  Unfortunately you will find that on any forum there will always be the naysayers.  Good luck in your search for free energy.


Again, respectfully,
Carroll

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Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2023, 03:53:20 PM »
Yeah and for some reason all those naysayers are the Tesla Coil expert specialists builders complaining about the potential safety issues with my circuits. insinuating its so "bad" its a liability even for the host to allow it?? Strange coming from them. You would think,. I guess you could say the very same to them no? What if everyone started to build and use tesla coils and ran them from the mains? Would that not become troublesome all the potential backEMF for the electric company? I know you can minimize and filter etc but things can indeed go wrong with the slight issue here! Every coil builder knows!!! But we talk about Tesla coils and the construction and methods all the time! This can really kill you? Not a liabiliy for the host? Double standards. More like they didn't come up with the idea first so they got to poo poo all over it lol. Because... Is that not how Tesla accidently blow up a power plant doing this? So even the top expert can sometimes "Screw" up with these coils, Does that mean that all Tesla coil and tesla coil PSU units be removed from hosting because you know should be a risk right?

Just pointing out what I feel is a double standard.


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Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2023, 04:09:09 PM »
Joel
40 MA in 15 Watts out is miraculous !


Here in open source research forums ( you will notice no advertisements on either forum)


We need to be absolutely sure ( 100 %) that such a circuit does not cost utility company
In any way !
Your sincerity is commendable!
Our concerns are to our hosts ..and not bringing problems their way … zero budget for problems !
Actually such issues could be shoehorn towards major legal issues at this small venue!


And quite certain the legal team at big venues (you tube etc) would hold themselves harmless with their terms of service agreements ( and their ten deep legal teams would surely make certain costs went to presenter )


Are you 100% certain this miracle is completely provable ( legal and not grid dependent?( no cost to grid ?)
As example many countries still have single wire earth return grid systems,
Funny things can happen unaware with an all encompassing grid !
Once watched a man weld with just a “staked ground cable” out in a field !
He had one buried hot Cable ( on a knife switch in shop) and just hammered in a ground
To weld in the field


However
We sure need this and all the variations !


I would run towards scrutiny…to be certain!
PLEASE!!

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Chet K



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Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2023, 04:26:28 PM »
Sure I have it on my youtube. It's called "Free Energy Generation Using The Electric Company"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVMpQQugA-0

Got it!

Thank you Joel.

Posting here for those who would like to print it and have it handy should/when the lights go out.

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Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2023, 04:27:28 PM »
The idea is not to fool or trouble the mains, It's just a method one of many of my methods to limit your current input usage so you don't have to pay much for the input as not much is needed if you build your circuits and devices around this low current idea. the point is further down the line. The 10uf cap starts to act funny, as in funny it starts acting like a temp electret or something like it when pulsed discharged and continuously recharged. So I took advantage of the 60 hertz to save on having to need a stage to pulse the voltage into this cap with the help of the SCR and neon that maintains this oscillation. This dumps 100 volts a few times a second into a super capacitor bank replacing a traditional battery bank for many added benefits of less circuit resistance and such! The high frequency high voltage 220 volts inverter running at much faster frequency "fools" the lamp into being able to provide its lumens as it would with a 60 hertz 15 watt source at 110 volts. I actually burnt out a few lamps off this tiny inverter!!! But I needed to find a way to limit the current usage to near zero because its way to hot direct from the mains line! the idea is not to use current!

You can do the same with an inverter as the input source or any other local source of 60 hertz AC. or you can even replace the reactive component x factor all together and use a fly zapper oscillator feed it with low current 50ma or less at 1.5 volts DC you get a spark gap 1kv to play with. Pulse that into a MOT in reverse and rectify the low voltage side back into a set of super capacitors does the same darn thing. Just needs more parts and a noisy spark gap. I know I did it. Again the interesting thing happens inside the pulsing caps. And the utilizations of only capacitors and the high frequency inverter. And how the lamp reacts. How you want to feed this system is up to you really. Probably even more methods that I have yet thought of.

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Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2023, 04:44:54 PM »
Got it!

Thank you Joel.

Posting here for those who would like to print it and have it handy should/when the lights go out.

I must point out that the circuit how ever fine that it works is rather simple and could use some improvements. Such as a sort of protection for those nasty AC mains transients you may run into. Maybe put a 50-100 ohm R in line with one of the AC lines?

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Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2023, 07:33:58 PM »
I must point out that the circuit how ever fine that it works is rather simple and could use some improvements. Such as a sort of protection for those nasty AC mains transients you may run into. Maybe put a 50-100 ohm R in line with one of the AC lines?

I'm all for improvements, after the basics handle the task at hand.  I have a couple small AC generators I'll likely put upstream of this circuit of yours.  Not worried about the power company getting bent out of shape.  When things go dark, they can worry about my bank not paying them to service a dead line.

So yeah, I like what you've done.  Could probably power quite a few lights with just some small gens using practically no fuel.  That's definitely handy indeed.

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Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2023, 09:16:28 PM »

Dog One
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So yeah, I like what you've done.  Could probably power quite a few lights with just some small gens using practically no fuel.  That's definitely handy indeed.
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Actually I was thinking this type install ( on a teeny tiny genset )




Would be a wonderful path towards proving the claim
Has no effect on mains !


Daisy chain a bunch of lights !
Mili Amps won’t bog the genny