Author Topic: Is this the beginning of the end? (Read 24329 times)

onepower · « **Reply #45 on:** January 22, 2023, 11:24:26 PM »

alan

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Chemtrails were a nutjob conspiracy theory, now it is being admitted and confirmed but considered nothing special.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4927569/

It's possible to be right but for the wrong reasons.

Chemtrails have been around for a while and was used to try and modify the weather. However it could be to mitigate severe weather or other effects due to global warming. Were now seeing many hail storms/atmospheric rivers producing over a billion dollars of damage in one day which has the insurance industry worried. Here the insurance companies are paying cloud seeders to try and minimize the severity of hail storms before they hit big cities causing billions in damage. They were also trying to seed clouds to reflect solar radiation to try to prevent the record setting temperatures seen all over the planet.

For example, the town of Lytton in B.C Canada saw a record temperature of 46C in 2021 then promptly burned to the ground the next day due to a wildfire. It then saw another wildfire in 2022 which burned what they were rebuilding. Unfortunately this may become more common in the future.

It may be the people producing and testing chemtrails don't want us to know how bad global warming is so people don't panic.

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McDougall is reliable, you judged it too soon.
This channel is interesting, it's about rf weapons, havana syndrome, pulsed sound weapons and a surveillance grid
https://www.youtube.com/c/LookoutfaCharlie/videos

Big brother was always watching but now more so big tech companies like youtube, twitter, facebook and google. There watching everything and selling our information to third parties. However from what I have heard they don't care about us or what we think. They want our information to fine tune there advertising so they can sell us more crap. All these social media companies make all there income from advertising. Nobody can go anywhere without being bombarded by advertisements 24/7.

So it is a conspiracy of sorts but there not out to get you only your wallet and everything revolves around money.

stivep · « **Reply #46 on:** January 23, 2023, 01:20:20 AM »

Quote from: alan on January 22, 2023, 09:38:44 PM

Chemtrails were a nutjob conspiracy theory, now it is being admitted and confirmed but considered nothing special.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

No my friend,
This is a humorous essay.
People often attaching All truth to " The Truth" as part of their own spirituality.
1. " The Truth", unlike an opinion, is not open to reasonable debate between physicist and believers.
2. If not encountered great opposition " The Truth" become obvious, like a nitrogen in the air. - you don't care how much of it is around. But you were told that is there.
3. Obviously, The Truth needs more defenders, such as you my friend, to be visible as its popularity suffers now days, due to modern science advance.
4. " The Truth" face of "consensus" and "verifiability", refuse to kneel to the power of disagreement, causing its leaders make less and less money on it.
5. Miracles become not verifiable, and are no longer advertised by " The Truth" that ended talking directly to the masses thousands years ago.
6. Question : Because " The Truth" is a male present as 3 in one (as Trinity) means exists as three distinct Persons
having definitely attribute of a male than:
does this entity have 3 penises or they share one in between 3 guys?
I assume that you alan may have no "balls" to respond exactly to this question ?

In physics "The Truth" is very much ignored as meaningless , not recognized or non existent.
Physics and modern science is based on facts, analysis, and models.

Russian Federation, used terror that First, was ridiculed. Second, it was violently opposed. Third, it was accepted as being self-evident.
-And as a result of it we have War in Ukraine.
Inquisition established by Pope Gregory IX c. 1232 for the suppression of heresy used the same mechanism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition

Wesley

alan · « **Reply #47 on:** January 23, 2023, 01:59:41 PM »

Ask your wife about the truth regarding the 'trinity'. She looks like a nice woman.
Tanakh also mentions the 3 members: Father, Word of God, Holy Spirit of God. Masons worship the gods of the obelisk.

John 1 teaches: And the word of God was made flesh and tabernacled among his own, and his own received him not, and everyone wh receives him gave he power to become children of God.

The roman church persecuted everyone, especially christians and jews.

floodrod · « **Reply #48 on:** January 23, 2023, 04:21:27 PM »

What they teach and the true meaning or two truly opposite things. Let's look at the Trinity..

They teach God has three parts which make up the Trinity. Those who believe that Christ died for their sins is endowed with some kind of holy Spirit from God which gives them protective armor. So every single Christian or believer thinks they are endowed with the holy Spirit. I call rubbish.

The holy Spirit is properly translated as the spirit of righteousness. Now ask yourself what is righteousness?

Righteousness is defined as someone who lives within their rights. To live outside your rights is obviously unrighteous..

Now what are your rights? Refer to the ten commandments which are basically divided into two main points. Treat other life forms like you want to be treated, and honor God.

You are given the right to life, just like every other creature that walks this earth. It is within your rights to live your life, but it is against your rights, or unrighteous, to cause pain misery suffering or death to other creatures for your own personal enjoyment or gain..

When a person has the spirit of righteousness, aka the holy Spirit, it means they truly want to live within their rights and not hurt other creatures or life forms. They will ask themselves before every meal or decision they must make whether their actions are going to impede, her, cause misery suffering or death to another life form unnecessarily. And they will base their decisions not on what is best for them, but what respects the rights of all life..

You have heard the holy Spirit convicts you of sin. This is the exact reason. When you start living life righteously, you evaluate your decisions before you do want to others and commit sins. You know in your heart it is wrong even before you do it, so you don't do it.

I believe not what I consider retarded teachings of some divine spirit that whips down into your body only if you believe the innocent sacrifice and the bloodshed washes your robes.

I could go on about Freemasons, gnostics, Essenes, and heretics in regards to the Roman killing of so-called Christians. But I'm afraid it will all fall on idle ears like always.

stivep · « **Reply #49 on:** January 23, 2023, 06:11:30 PM »

stivep · « **Reply #50 on:** January 24, 2023, 03:20:40 AM »

Quote from: floodrod on January 23, 2023, 04:21:27 PM

What they teach and the true meaning or two truly opposite things. Let's look at the Trinity..
//I call rubbish.
I believe not what I consider retarded teachings of some divine spirit.

Great comment. thank you.
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Quote from: alan on January 23, 2023, 01:59:41 PM

Ask your wife about the truth regarding the 'trinity'. She looks like a nice woman.

She is definitely on the site of modern science now.
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This is a humorous essay.

I was right predicting that You "alan" will not respond to my question About "trinity"
Why it is stated that "trinity" is male not female?
And because of it does this entity have 3 penises or just one?
Or may be it is a vaginal entity posing not only as one but as three male in one... for its own reason.
making itself a very much natural LGBT.?
I wonder how sexual fantasies of this entity looks like if any..?
- we have it... so it should too - as we were made as a picture of it, right?
_{Genesis 1:27 man was created in Godde’s image}

So again do you have "balls" to respond precisely to this male claim of trinity?
or you don't have "balls" ready for that?
_{opinion expressed is my own ..}
Wesley

alan · « **Reply #51 on:** January 24, 2023, 01:31:24 PM »

Who is the God of Israel to you, who made himself known as YHWH to his covenant people?
Your 'understanding' of the trinity is based on roman catholicism, you need the word of God that was given to the jews to keep and preserve. This will teach us, even the Lord Jesus Christ says so about the tanankh or old testament/covenant.

The birthright of the jews is (in) the tanakh, it explains why a jew is named jew, and israel is called israel, etcetc. The right of christians is Jesus Christ, believers in Christ are put in the birthright and blessing of Abraham through faith alone in the atonement.
What is a jew without the old testament or a christian without Jesus Christ?

Gen 25:26 And after that came his brother out, and his hand took hold on Esau's heel; and his name was called Jacob: and Isaac was threescore years old when she bare them.
Jacob, heel holder or supplanter

Gen 29:35 And she conceived again, and bare a son: and she said, Now will I praise the LORD: therefore she called his name Judah; and left bearing.
Judah, jehudim, jew: praised, celebrated.

Gen 32:24 And Jacob was left alone; and there wrestled a man with him until the breaking of the day.
Gen 32:25 And when he saw that he prevailed not against him, he touched the hollow of his thigh; and the hollow of Jacob's thigh was out of joint, as he wrestled with him.
Gen 32:26 And he said, Let me go, for the day breaketh. And he said, I will not let thee go, except thou bless me.
Gen 32:27 And he said unto him, What is thy name? And he said, Jacob.
Gen 32:28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.
Gen 32:29 And Jacob asked him, and said, Tell me, I pray thee, thy name. And he said, Wherefore is it that thou dost ask after my name? And he blessed him there.

Israel, 'God Contended', 'Wrestles with God', 'Triumphant with God'.

where'd you come from, where'd you go. lol

Trinity isn't in the bible, but this is:
1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

I don't understand your question or intention, so I gave you some facts.

stivep · « **Reply #52 on:** January 24, 2023, 04:17:18 PM »

Quote from: alan on January 24, 2023, 01:31:24 PM

I don't understand your question or intention, so I gave you some facts.

The base for action:
I assume you understand with all do respect to your spiritual and other values that:
-New York subway is accessible only to holders, of approved valid pass, ticket (- other animals have free ride)
-PhD in physics is given only to holders, of approved valid ticket called:(Ph.D - dissertation)
-Statement in based on models physics : states = makes facts known.
-Your spiritual state of mind is not used by Biology, Anthropology, History of Earth, however,
Archeologist may be interested why and how Inquisition persecuted your grand grand-pa. ?

The base for action is:_{According to :}
_{Genesis 1:27 man was created in Godde’s image}

Avoiding questions, side kicking, doesn't make you respected part of conversation here,
Logical thinking- implements reasonable solutions rather than acting solely on emotions.
You were ask :
1. - what biological criteria applies to masculine not feminine of god according to your dogma?
2. - male organs of God are the necessity for its Manlihood .So god may masturbate physically too - including all function of his organ._{-concept of trinity becomes more complicated.}
3. - People use form : "holly shit"
since it is definitely stated that _{Genesis 1:27 man was created in Godde’s image I'm interested how holly "shit" looks like, and what is made of?}4. - It was Adam and Eve and what ? Brother with sister?, father with daughter? INCEST? But Dog with dog, _{also mammal}was OK ?
How was it? And God what? didn't oppose?.. O yea Sodom and Gomorrah was impossible - not enough humans yet to punish right?

I didn't disrespect spiritual values I only ask questions
Please provide answers to these questions can you?

Wesley

alan · « **Reply #53 on:** January 24, 2023, 06:36:47 PM »

All of living creation is brought forth from a seed (except for microbes). Spiritually we should be born of God's seed.

Luk 8:4 And when much people were gathered together, and were come to him out of every city, he spake by a parable:
Luk 8:5 A sower went out to sow his seed: and as he sowed, some fell by the way side; and it was trodden down, and the fowls of the air devoured it.
Luk 8:6 And some fell upon a rock; and as soon as it was sprung up, it withered away, because it lacked moisture.
Luk 8:7 And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprang up with it, and choked it.
Luk 8:8 And other fell on good ground, and sprang up, and bare fruit an hundredfold. And when he had said these things, he cried, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Luk 8:11 Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.
Luk 8:12 Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.
Luk 8:13 They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.
Luk 8:14 And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth, and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to perfection.
Luk 8:15 But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience.

1Pe 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Rom 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
1Co 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1Co 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
1Co 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
1Co 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
1Co 1:22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
1Co 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
1Co 1:24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
1Co 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

stivep · « **Reply #54 on:** January 24, 2023, 07:31:57 PM »

Quote from: alan on January 24, 2023, 06:36:47 PM

All of living creation is brought forth from a seed (except for microbes). Spiritually we should be born of God's seed.
Luk 8:11 The seed is the word of God.
Rom 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

Your response can't pass even high school exam.
question invites the other person to share their own opinion e.g denying or admitting, interpreting.. - means providing answer .
Precisely formulated by me questions are expecting your own answer where quoted text is used as a reference only.
You responded with quotes but Your answer is not present.
_{creating-strong-answers-conversation}
My questions were numbered for you to respond to them one by one.
Please use these numbers, to provide your own answer _{(with your own interpretation of quoted text,)} precisely to the point
Show me the power of your brain...Show me your value as a contributor to the discussion. What is your limit on how high "you can fly" ?

Can you?

Wesley

alan · « **Reply #55 on:** January 24, 2023, 08:00:51 PM »

1. - what biological criteria applies to masculine not feminine?
Anzr: XY and XX chromosomes.

Maybe chatGPT can answer your other questions.

stivep · « **Reply #56 on:** January 24, 2023, 08:06:53 PM »

Quote from: alan on January 24, 2023, 08:00:51 PM

1. - what biological criteria applies to masculine not feminine?
Anzr: XY and XX chromosomes.

question was:
1. - what biological criteria applies to masculine not feminine of god according to your dogma?
Please respond to the question
Wesley

onepower · « **Reply #57 on:** January 24, 2023, 08:35:10 PM »

Is this the beginning of the end?

Based on the responses here possibly. Many would rather spend endless hours trying to convince others there present beliefs and opinions must be the right ones. To hold the status quo, whatever there's may be, but never moving forward beyond that and making progress.

This is the way the world ends, Not with a bang but a whimper.

alan · « **Reply #58 on:** January 24, 2023, 08:45:13 PM »

Quote from: stivep on January 24, 2023, 08:06:53 PM

question was:
1. - what biological criteria applies to masculine not feminine of god according to your dogma?
Please respond to the question
Wesley

Biology is a creation, and God is an uncreated spirit, the Father of lights, the God who:
2Co 5:19 [...] was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. [...] be ye reconciled to God.

alan · « **Reply #59 on:** January 24, 2023, 08:49:05 PM »

Quote from: onepower on January 24, 2023, 08:35:10 PM

Is this the beginning of the end?

Based on the responses here possibly. Many would rather spend endless hours trying to convince others there present beliefs and opinions must be the right ones. To hold the status quo, whatever there's may be, but never moving forward beyond that and making progress.

This is the way the world ends, Not with a bang but a whimper.

I don't know but I don't worry about it.
There will come a false messiah or guru, the universal one predicted and expected by all religions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnMpfoxYSFY

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