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Author Topic: Is this the beginning of the end?  (Read 24396 times)

Offline SolarLab

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Re: Is this the beginning of the end?
« Reply #225 on: March 25, 2023, 01:46:37 AM »
Worth noting in the above patent submissions is the "confusing" drawings.

This is likely due to the fact the drawings stem from Computer Aided Engineering
3D Analysis (CAE) and are submitted as an "electronic" submission of some sort
(CD, pen drive, or other electronic storage media) which allows, in some cases,
to show a 3D Animation of the device being described or a detailed 3D "field" 
diagram.

Again, for reference:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuyNOVwLwVw
[drawings are shown at the end of the video]
 
This will probably become more common as time goes.

In the case of US20200220447A1 [attached], for example, Figure 1A. - I suspect
shows the actual 3D Magnetic Fields created by the "shields."

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Re: Is this the beginning of the end?
« Reply #226 on: March 25, 2023, 08:58:09 AM »
I suppose that all noise about overunity of some of devices which was patenting his owner in generally is coming from people. People who want to think so, and attribute these properties to them.Sometimes the inventors themselves sin with this, spread rumors. ;)
An example was Andrey Ermola from Kiev. He came up with his original gearbox design.
The Ukrainian patent says nothing about over-unity. It's just a gearbox.

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Re: Is this the beginning of the end?
« Reply #227 on: March 25, 2023, 11:03:55 AM »
Ref:
https://overunity.com/19339/is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/msg575485/#msg575485

Quote: "Check out this new generator that pruces 16 x OU !!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UG77x4UZDA" 

This is a follow-up video: (patent drawing at the end)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuyNOVwLwVw

Here's the patent application numbers:

WO2018236818A1 (attached), and
US20200220447A1
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Once you read the patents you will discover these are a different style of
patent disclosure - sort of sequencing type - software like (to avoid the usual
perpetual motion claim - patent denial).

let me rephrase your last sentence:
Magicians have different style of //disclosure - sort of sequencing type -  (to avoid the usual
motion claim - public denial).

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Everything is for sale but in civilized world limit is stiffer.
Look below please.
Quote
The reality of patent law:
- enough of money to build  the device , but not enough to bribe  these who could make "you" happy
So position and wealth matters even in civilized western world.
It may likely also explain why Trump is not in jail yet.

opinion expressed  is my own.

Wesley

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Re: Is this the beginning of the end?
« Reply #228 on: March 25, 2023, 12:07:22 PM »
I suppose that all noise about overunity of some of devices which was patenting his owner in generally is coming from people. People who want to think so, and attribute these properties to them.Sometimes the inventors themselves sin with this, spread rumors. ;)
An example was Andrey Ermola from Kiev. He came up with his original gearbox design.
The Ukrainian patent says nothing about over-unity. It's just a gearbox.

Firstly Andrey Ermola from Kharkov. Secondly, its gearbox converts the static mechanical pressure on the gearbox rod into a rotational torque. What does this mean: once you have created a force of a vector plan (for example, a jack) per unit of time and remove the torque. What is the output, connect your business.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g0FcY-7Fw0&t=173s

https://www.youtube.com/@andreyermola

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Re: Is this the beginning of the end?
« Reply #229 on: March 25, 2023, 12:55:03 PM »
I don’t argue about the fact that Yermola is from Kharkov. You know better, and a lot of time has passed, I don’t remember. I don’t argue about the fact that he invented the original gearbox with a large gear ratio. Respect to him. :)
But about the perpetual motion machine, I doubt it. :(

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Re: Is this the beginning of the end?
« Reply #230 on: March 25, 2023, 02:49:46 PM »
I don't care what various agents write, commissions to combat pseudoscience - the Russian Academy of Sciences (especially those whose native language is Russian). "Perpetual Motion" is too controversial a term. Ermola's reducer is a converter of static linear force into rotary motion. Any device has its own parameters and resource, especially a mechanical mechanism with rubbing parts.
Now let's imagine that you need to lift 10 tons with a jack, these 10 tons will be lifted by a jack, exactly until you release the jack. Next, let's say you compress the input rod of the Ermola gearbox with a jack, the output shaft rotates, setting the payload in motion. Within an hour, the force of the jack does not decrease. Within 2-3 hours by 5%, which requires little effort to maintain the appropriate pressure on the input rod of the Ermola reducer.
On the face of the device with OverUnit result.

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Re: Is this the beginning of the end?
« Reply #231 on: March 25, 2023, 06:56:57 PM »
I had some time to go over this video.The guy  is talented. He doesn't speak English .
The device is quite  eye catching.
 Under the bottom of the device on the floor there is an electrical   power strip 
with  at least one  device connected to it .- Solder gun.Patent application number nor  application  was not found.
Patent office does not issue the patents with overunity  or perpetual motion devices.
So if it was really filed  than   it is dead fish and waste of money and time.
The only other  option is  that it was filed as linear motion device with  motor, but NOT SELF POWERED .
I do respect you Stefan very much.
But there is 0 chances that i can be wrong.

Wesley


You could not find the patent application - so I found it for you. That's all...

The claim's drawings are unusual so I also explained that. And perpetual motion applications are difficult to patent, so
I explained the interesting wording found in the application. That's it, nothing more - just trying to help a bit..

You're welcome!

let me rephrase your last sentence:
Magicians have different style of //disclosure - sort of sequencing type -  (to avoid the usual
motion claim - public denial).

___________________________________________________
Everything is for sale but in civilized world limit is stiffer.
Look below please.So position and wealth matters even in civilized western world.
It may likely also explain why Trump is not in jail yet.

opinion expressed  is my own.

Wesley
---------Quote from: SolarLab on Today at 01:18:23 AM<blockquote>Ref:
https://overunity.com/19339/is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/msg575485/#msg575485

Quote: "Check out this new generator that pruces 16 x OU !!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UG77x4UZDA" 

This is a follow-up video: (patent drawing at the end)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuyNOVwLwVw

Here's the patent application numbers:

WO2018236818A1 (attached), and
US20200220447A1
___________________________________________________
Once you read the patents you will discover these are a different style of
patent disclosure - sort of sequencing type - software like (to avoid the usual
perpetual motion claim - patent denial).

</blockquote> let me rephrase your last sentence:
Magicians have different style of //disclosure - sort of sequencing type -  (to avoid the usual
motion claim - public denial).



Offline kolbacict

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Re: Is this the beginning of the end?
« Reply #232 on: March 25, 2023, 07:01:02 PM »
Let it run like a perpetual motion machine, I don't mind. :)
I just wanted to say that the patent does not say a word about it. Just a gearbox.

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Re: Is this the beginning of the end?
« Reply #233 on: March 25, 2023, 07:28:13 PM »
A Brilliant Patent Submission by JB MAHER (July 9, 2020)

Johnathan Bannon MAHER's patent submission "US 2020/0220447 A1" contains a very "subtle" approach
that will be appreciated by those "skilled-in-the-art."

It is spelled out on page 5 in the BACKGROUND paragraphs starting at [0003]. In short, the (broad) methods
and techniques disclosed in this patent are now "PUBLIC DOMAIN" since they have been presented therein
and the patent has now been abandoned. See attached...

Once you read at least the BACKGROUND it will hopefully become clear. 

SL

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Re: Is this the beginning of the end?
« Reply #234 on: March 25, 2023, 09:28:16 PM »
Icons of energy for free also known as  Free energy
Some individuals and  conclusions:
In USA - Stanley Meyer.
Died  "presumably" due to poisoning in 1998
 https://environment.umn.edu/education/susteducation/stanley-meyer-an-infamous-invention-and-death/

In Georgia Europe
Tariel Kapanadze
Poisoned along with me in 2011 by some Russians in airplane from Prague in Czechia to Tbilisi Georgia
Died  in 2021.
https://tao-electric-universe.blogspot.com/2020/05/tesla-fuelless-generator-tariel-kapanadze.html
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In the effect of it  we had/have clones/actors/ pretenders:
in USA Eric Dollard  https://ericpdollard.com/
He is an icon to many. Great  knowledge,  likely deteriorating with  age .
Controversial, rejecting and in disagreement with modern physics   
I was denied participation in their  "Bedini" Conference as a speaker due to my statement:
that I come from the ground of  conventional physics only.

 
Thematically from Tariel Kapanadze  roots:
SR  died  from  some Russians action  prior to his emigration to Canada.
Denis Dnieser  Moldovan killed in Ukraine by "presumably" Russians right before my trip to him to see his device
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9foRzZEZRo
Akula- Kazakhstan  no news about him for ~5 years
Ruslan Kalabuhov  Riga Latvia - presented  eye catching Kapanadze  or SR like
device. He earned some popularity. In the time of public request  - the scrutiny to show/ prove/answer to the demands
he postponed my visit  to  examine his device few times.
Two years ago while looking like somehow influenced by some  strong  drinks he made few video streams .
He deleted them shortly after that . I assume when he got more sober to look at them again.
It would be better for him if  he never  made it. "Tragically" discouraging  experience .
With all due respect to all of you the audience including Russian audience:
 - You  mostly represent diversity where physics, electronics and  EM wave properties is not the best known. 
I think  majority of you have a....- too much problem  with it - and in Russia few per million are good - well .."somehow".. I think.

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Scrutiny and willingness to share:

Most  of these clones  mentioned above are made by "clowns" asking for public recognition
to fulfill  their personal needs. ( from self-esteem  to "money obtained illegally" activity.)

Is it good to give for free:

Answer : In my experience it is not.
Explanation:
1. people don't appreciate  given for free - gifts
2. Your satisfaction is likely for them to remember and they don't.
    They don't even remember to return  the favor or your things( tools) temporary given to them.
 3.  Many of You are often not kind, offensive or aggressive  to these who  manifest  that they know more, better
     especially if  they dare to   push it  into your throat  if you are too ignorant to admit it.

3. Scrutiny.

    Most of you wants to see the new amazing and amassing. they would like to have it or make something similar.
    Reaction to inaccessibility  is often an attack:
    The Jew, The guy who says he knows, but doesn't show "it".
    The guy who says he is not for sale, and acting like so smart that  nobody wants to confront him.
    It is nothing wrong to oppose - Get your level and willingness to understand  first and than oppose.
    One of the friends from this forum was very manifesting much of his disappointment to my revelations
    that  I  was about to quit , as he has a manner  to interrupt, not listen to, or analyze  on demand.
     
  
4. Consequences:
Simple rules:
 You want money than don't get married  with no money or don't have kids to soon as it 'll cost  you "all resources."
  -that is why kids of wealthy  are in Harvard University, Princeton,  MIT but not you.
  So they can find suitable  "other party" for marriage from their own at "their level"


You didn't go to America or Canada for better  from former  Soviet or  Russia today.
If you are Canadian  why didn't you move to USA for less tax and less public assistance but potentially more money.
If you are American with not much education why you didn't become  sanitation  garbage  removal worker for 250k/year
or electrician or plumber for much more than that  per year.
Blame yourself  for what is your life-like, your  public recognition level, and your chances.

I gave a lot, I sponsored, I helped, only to find all sort of negative outcome in the process or some time later

Wesley
   

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Re: Is this the beginning of the end?
« Reply #235 on: March 25, 2023, 10:50:34 PM »
On the other hand

You could just develop various excess energy devices because you enjoy
the challenge and the success brings a great deal of personal satisfaction
(curse of the ever curious, I recon)! A hobby so to speak.

Or a simple "way-of-life" in a sense!

An old, but well known, story from "Investors Business Daily:"

An American investment banker was taking a much-needed vacation

An American investment banker was taking a much-needed vacation in a small coastal
Mexican village when a small boat with just one fisherman docked. The boat had several
large, fresh fish in it.

The investment banker was impressed by the quality of the fish and asked the Mexican
how long it took to catch them. The Mexican replied, “Only a little while.” The banker then
asked why he didn’t stay out longer and catch more fish?

The Mexican fisherman replied he had enough to support his family’s immediate needs.

The American then asked “But what do you do with the rest of your time?”

The Mexican fisherman replied, “I sleep late, fish a little, play with my children, take siesta
with my wife, stroll into the village each evening where I sip wine and play guitar with my
amigos: I have a full and busy life, senor.”

The investment banker scoffed, “I am an Ivy League MBA, and I could help you. You could
spend more time fishing and with the proceeds buy a bigger boat, and with the proceeds from
the bigger boat you could buy several boats until eventually you would have a whole fleet of
fishing boats. Instead of selling your catch to the middleman you could sell directly to the
processor, eventually opening your own cannery. You could control the product, processing
and distribution.”

Then he added, “Of course, you would need to leave this small coastal fishing village and
move to Mexico City where you would run your growing enterprise.”

The Mexican fisherman asked, “But senor, how long will this all take?”

To which the American replied, “15-20 years.”

“But what then?” asked the Mexican.

The American laughed and said, “That’s the best part. When the time is right you would
announce an IPO and sell your company stock to the public and become very rich. You
could make millions.”

“Millions, senor? Then what?”

To which the investment banker replied, “Then you would retire. You could move to a small
coastal fishing village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your kids, take siesta
with your wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where you could sip wine and play your
guitar with your amigos.”

Have a good one...



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Re: Is this the beginning of the end?
« Reply #236 on: March 25, 2023, 11:44:18 PM »
Thats the American Dream in a nutshell


They sell us on the idea of doing an impossible amount of work
On the hopes of one day retiring and not having to work anymore.


In reality, if we have land and minimal processes to cover the taxes….


We were always free to retire any time we please.




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Re: Is this the beginning of the end?
« Reply #237 on: March 25, 2023, 11:47:34 PM »
On the other hand

You could just develop various excess energy devices because you enjoy
the challenge and the success brings a great deal of personal satisfaction
(curse of the ever curious, I recon)! A hobby so to speak.

Or a simple "way-of-life" in a sense!

An old, but well known, story
Then you would retire. You could move to a small
coastal fishing village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your kids, take siesta
with your wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where you could sip wine and play your
guitar with your amigos.”
Have a good one...

Despite of how nasty  you were to me  SolarLab  in the past, I respect you as another human animal and member  of this society.
-and only because of that  I reacted to you.

I must disagree with you:
For centuries the story of how  good  is to stay in poverty  was promoted  by  these with money who used ,abused, has taken advantage of,
personally you or your ancestors.
Fricken explication and officially acceptable version of a religious teaching.
-making  your children  to suffer because you have no money for their education.
Ya listen more to SolarLab... and die sooner  having no money for  your medical bills..
what a ... f...
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My immunity is in my  ignorance to  public exposure, its reaction, or its opinion,
I have no ego, I'm independent , minimalist who cares less about 
offers, rewards,  more money  and so on.
If you work for pleasure and no more you are at must of  supporting yourself or your
family you are probably like me.
But such  - is unlikely  a domain of poverty.


I hope it helps you SolarLab to understand  more.
Wesley.

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Re: Is this the beginning of the end?
« Reply #238 on: March 26, 2023, 01:02:23 AM »
Despite of how nasty  you were to me  SolarLab  in the past, I respect you as another human animal and member  of this society.
-and only because of that  I reacted to you.

I must disagree with you:
For centuries the story of how  good  is to stay in poverty  was promoted  by  these with money who used ,abused, has taken advantage of,
personally you or your ancestors.
Fricken explication and officially acceptable version of a religious teaching.
-making  your children  to suffer because you have no money for their education.
Ya listen more to SolarLab... and die sooner  having no money for  your medical bills..
what a ... f...
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My immunity is in my  ignorance to  public exposure, its reaction, or its opinion,
I have no ego, I'm independent , minimalist who cares less about 
offers, rewards,  more money  and so on.
If you work for pleasure and no more you are at must of  supporting yourself or your
family you are probably like me.
But such  - is unlikely  a domain of poverty.


I hope it helps you SolarLab to understand  more.
Wesley.


stivep,

Fact is - you had me banned from this forum for mearly attempting to present a viable, technically solid, theory of how the
Ruslan/Acula/Kapanadze device worked. You also had those that dared to find my reasearch valid banned as well.

As it turns out it appears my theories were more correct than not - as we will soon see; not from me but from other
independant developers.

These facts are all still in these forums going back a few years. You cannot pretend you are not aware of this. You don't
like me because I challenge your "stuff" and I generally know what I'm talking about - so be it... you're not alone in that.

You can have your opinions - I respect that. But facts and technically correct information, ARE what they ARE.

My sole focus will remain on the design, development and analysis of Excess Energy.

And, I will not engage in anymore silly childesh games with you - it does not move the search and development of excess energy
forward in the least.

We are at the pinacle of a real energy revolution with respect to so called OU so it becomes imaterial and irrelevant what either
one of us, or anyone else, believes or disbelieves. Once the political turmoil subsides, and it soon will, the path will be wide open!

So, for me and any discussion, the end, right now, period! 

Good day,

SL

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Re: Is this the beginning of the end?
« Reply #239 on: March 26, 2023, 03:27:37 AM »
Dear Solar Lab you still   have problem to understand.
I had   only me and no power  to  make any changes .
It is only a response of this particular society that made me
start to exist as some value able to defend me against  any unhappy other member.
I think that you have value,  you are talented, you have a potential and you may develop a lot. 
I'm not your enemy.
At that particular moment in time  it was me or you in this  forum.
Society decided that they need me more.

Is it because  I'm  traditional in physics and based on checked, conformed,  applicable science?
Is it because I don't drift into  overunity, perpetual motion, antigravity ether, and similar BS or because  members
feel confident of not being fooled  by charlatans, magicians AND RUSSIAN TROLLS?

I don't know.
My wife quite well, and well educated, is so young that she could be my daughter  and she chose me too. :)
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2PJVIkyW5Y
https://youtu.be/op4GgbE8xWI?t=19
I'm bad in  kitchen and  fricken  good  in phenomena of our interest, but  there are others better than me.
I wanted them to be in this forum .
To achieve that  I was in need to stop BS in this forum and not be ashamed to show it to them.
I can sale my time for real profit in my labs .
This forum is where   I give a lot  of my time and attention for free , get  satisfaction and  often  some education too.

I wish you the best.

Wesley