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Author Topic: FREE ENERGY DEVICE from Ebay???  (Read 46963 times)

Offline Marcel

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FREE ENERGY DEVICE from Ebay???
« on: January 25, 2007, 07:59:16 PM »
FREE ENERGY DEVICE (120 VOLT ENERGY FROM MID AIR)
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250076441046&fromMakeTrack=true

What is this?
A new scam?

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FREE ENERGY DEVICE from Ebay???
« on: January 25, 2007, 07:59:16 PM »

Offline pese

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Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICE from Ebay???
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2007, 09:29:11 PM »
This is not FE or OU device !
You can ony try with scematics that you find here or inother papers.

try to as the seller for warranty and scematic that is
usefull fo "this" item .

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also some faults in the offer

" 120v 4MILIAMP  .
480mW  is to "week" , and MILIamp  with one "L " ist also to week for
specialised "seller"
Pese

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Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICE from Ebay???
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2007, 09:59:17 PM »
Hi Marcel, Pese,
Yes I contacted the buyer (and seller) that bought this device and he mentioned that he had not connected it up yet but the instructions indicated that the 5 to 6 turns of flex is connected in series with a mains powered lamp.
He thought he had something that was a free energy device.
I then pointed out that what he had was a low current toroidal transformer.

So in answer to the question is this a scam?
Not sure, but I suspect it is, but I think the person that made it is unaware what free energy really is.
What makes me laugh is the description says how he went about painstakingly winding the coils by hand onto a toroidal core.
Do you think I should tell me that he can easily buy a mains toroidal core from most electronic component suppliers very cheaply - already wound.
Of course it could be there is something special about the windings that would prevent you from using an off the shelf toroidal.

I am still unsure about it though. It would be shame to dismiss this without the full details.
The seller did not answer many of my questions but does say "it is not a scam".

Regards
Rob

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Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICE from Ebay???
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2007, 09:59:17 PM »
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Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICE from Ebay???
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2007, 10:14:22 PM »
shure !
if he say
it is an scam

then he must revoving this directly from ebay.
otherwise ....

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But he sell an "unfinished - notworking " product .

So it give no warranty ....  :-)

Pese

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Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICE from Ebay???
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2007, 02:14:41 PM »
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Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICE from Ebay???
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Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICE from Ebay???
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2007, 03:08:56 PM »
Let's have a look...

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Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICE from Ebay???
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2007, 07:21:42 PM »
me too please
Thanks

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Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICE from Ebay???
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Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICE from Ebay???
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2007, 08:15:43 PM »
Can you post a link for ? Or to attach the file ?

Thanx

Icarus

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Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICE from Ebay???
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2007, 08:38:32 PM »
 

Thx,

RD
« Last Edit: July 06, 2007, 12:19:41 PM by retrod »

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Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICE from Ebay???
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2007, 01:28:21 PM »
Yup, I know someone who bought this Pdf I had a look at it....
Primary plugs into the mains and you obtain variable output from secondary by proportional winding of said LA La Ha Hee Hee and sutch.

Question: would the real info float as saleable info on Ebay withought resistance, reactance BACK EMF etc etc.....How about a power suply for a laptop which is 12 volts output with some juce and plugs into off the shelf UPS...  GK??

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Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICE from Ebay???
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2007, 07:45:49 PM »
Yup, I know someone who bought this Pdf I had a look at it....
Primary plugs into the mains and you obtain variable output from secondary by proportional winding of said LA La Ha Hee Hee and sutch.

Question: would the real info float as saleable info on Ebay withought resistance, reactance BACK EMF etc etc.....How about a power suply for a laptop which is 12 volts output with some juce and plugs into off the shelf UPS...  GK??

Explain more to me.

--giantkiller

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Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICE from Ebay???
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Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICE from Ebay???
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2007, 09:00:12 PM »
Hi All,
I have reviewed the PDF too and my comments are as follow:
It's badly written, full of spelling mistakes, gramattical errors and on top of all of that, it's a completely mis-leading pile of rubbish with no scientific basis and certainly not worth the paper its printed on.

It outlines the idea that you can connect a mains powered lamp in series with the primary winding of a transformer and "claims" that the power obtained from the secondary is free energy.

Hang on, let's swap the lamp for 5 more of these magical transformers and create 6 times over-unity. ;)

Regards
Rob
 

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Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICE from Ebay???
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2007, 09:23:02 PM »
lol if you can upload the file here so we can all take a look ;) please.


peace

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Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICE from Ebay???
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2007, 01:19:24 PM »
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Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICE from Ebay???
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2007, 09:26:41 PM »
Hi GK, presumably in general, coils are designed as 120 volts output,
and plugged into an uninteruptable Psu's, which I believe, have 12 volt batteries on board, one would need less volts to run a laptop: 12 instead of 120...

As we have fuel cells that will allredy power a laptops with you needing to mearly add  water, one can see a wind-up Psu as a crude, here and now, nessesity poping up anytime soon, maybe with a foot pedal. How much power does a laptop need for basic computational functionality?? ...

Secondly is there a formula for arriving at specific output voltages aka: Demeter of coil or number of turns etc which produce a predictable E/I output?

I am aware the the whole thing is experimental and exploratory even so, it does appear the patent office is stopping access to sources of pdf's etc discussed here...

Of course this might enable someone to re-invent the Steam Engine all over again
But its a pain to believe we are being monitored as a way of limiting our access to information which is otherwise freely available, and would enable progress or am I mistaken??? not nessary to answer that one.

Everything that can be invented has already been invented...someone said that.
But I am sure its not all in the patent office.
It is in the subconscious awaiting the need, yet again.

Thanks also again for the coil design, I am sure you have reduced it to its nt'h degree of simplicity, even so I hesitate to admit that withought some clear diagrammatic clarification its still over my head.
 
Yup, also the Stick's definitly something else, surprising we don't already see more of it. Despite looking more complicated than the Axe, it appears to be easer to play.
Keep on keeping da Beat Sonny ;D





 

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