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### Author Topic: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations  (Read 12565 times)

#### Ufopolitics

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##### Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #60 on: December 11, 2022, 03:57:47 PM »
Magnitude of Acceleration on Electron, caused by Magnetic Field

Clean, simple and neat Math...

Electron having a Velocity=2.1x10^6 Meters/Sec

Based on the calculation of the Magnetic Field Force acting on Electron:

Electron reaches an Acceleration of= 5.9x10^12 Meters/Second^2

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#### Ufopolitics

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##### Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #61 on: December 11, 2022, 04:00:24 PM »
3 Amazing Magnetic Accelerators/Magnetic Toys...

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#### stivep

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##### Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #62 on: December 11, 2022, 04:55:44 PM »
Clean, simple and neat Math...

The magnetic force on a moving charge is one of the most fundamental known.
The magnetic force is as important as the electrostatic or Coulomb force.

all magnetism relies on current, the flow of charge !!!!
https://phys.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/University_Physics/Book%3A_Physics_(Boundless)/21%3A_Magnetism/21.3%3A_Magnetic_Force_on_a_Moving_Electric_Charge

I think all difficulty in understanding what is what  comes from the fact of lack of understanding
of principles of magnetism in atomic structure level,

analogy:
you my friend started to watch the movie from the middle of it and that created false conclusion.
Started from the beginning of the movie - explains  How do magnetism is "born" in an atom
when electron is a moving charge!!!!! In motion!!!

it was a question  here:
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Suppose an electron is moving through empty space at speed v. It produces an electric field because it is a charge. But this field changes as it moves.
Changing electric field must give rise to magnetic field.
However, the moving electron also constitutes a transient current through various points in space.

fields-of-a-moving-electron

https://youtu.be/MN_XtX7WYYc?t=175

an unpaired electron in motion is responsible for magnetic contribution.
-why do unpaired electrons have a magnetic dipole moment?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unpaired_electron
Wesley

#### Ufopolitics

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##### Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #63 on: December 12, 2022, 05:09:42 PM »

I think all difficulty in understanding what is what  comes from the fact of lack of understanding
of principles of magnetism in atomic structure level,

analogy:
you my friend started to watch the movie from the middle of it and that created false conclusion.
Started from the beginning of the movie - explains  How do magnetism is "born" in an atom
when electron is a moving charge!!!!! In motion!!!

an unpaired electron in motion is responsible for magnetic contribution.
-why do unpaired electrons have a magnetic dipole moment?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unpaired_electron
Wesley

First, let me cite a statement from Walter Russell:

There are no negatively "charged" particles in this universe. Negative electricity discharges while positive electricity charges. The
negative depolarizing force functions in the opposite manner and direction to the positive polarizing force. – W. Russell

Second, for your knowledge, I do not have -AT ALL- ANY "difficulty" about knowledge related to Magnetism.

Why should we dedicate our precious time to study and disect an "egg"...when the Chicken is a way more developed biological specimen?
By studying an egg, would I understand the completely formed and developed Chicken?...Answer is a huge NOPE!!

So, by concentrating so much, on the beggining of the "movie", you have lost the main developing parts, adding the end to it...
Then, you are missing looking at the "big picture".

A Magnetic Field is a fully developed "creature"...so, I rather concentrate on the study and development of this NATURAL PHENOMENA!!

I have dedicated THOUSANDS of Hours Studying Magnetism, and then making videos, which are based on TRUE EXPERIMENTS, not just on painted images and "assumptions".
My videos dedicated to Magnetism, have extensive graphical experimental evidence of behaviors which proves the total truth about Magnetism.

MAGNETISM (9 VIDEOS)

To end this discussion, here and now: Sir, You are not going to "make me" change my mind after conducting years of study related to Magnetic Fields.
As I know you will not change your mind either...
so, what is the point here?
IMHO, it is a complete waste of  time!!...and "Time is precious"...so, whenever I POST here, I really do not want to see your response to my posts, like you feel you are "correcting me" somehow, in your "news paper type" posts, citing links from the web from allover...I conduct my own experiments, whether to approve or disapprove any statements.
Whenever I post here, it is basically to ALL Members of this Forum, and related to this Thread, it is basically to the Author.

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#### bistander

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##### Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #64 on: December 12, 2022, 07:52:13 PM »
First, let me cite a statement from Walter Russell:

There are no negatively "charged" particles in this universe. Negative electricity discharges while positive electricity charges. The
negative depolarizing force functions in the opposite manner and direction to the positive polarizing force. – W. Russell
...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Russell

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Walter Bowman Russell (May 19, 1871 – May 19, 1963) was an impressionist American painter (of the Boston School), sculptor, autodidact and author. His lectures and writing place him firmly in the New Thought Movement.[1] Russell wrote extensively on science topics, but these writings "were not taken seriously by scientists."[2]

Hi Ufo,

Walter Russell's writings "were not taken seriously by scientists." But you do take them seriously, don't you? You and I have been around on him before. I recall referring to a book by him available freely on-line at that time. I can't find it now. Do you have the link? I'd appreciate it. I believe it is: Universal One.

Thanks,
bi

#### Ufopolitics

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##### Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #65 on: December 12, 2022, 09:06:19 PM »
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Russell
Hi Ufo,
Walter Russell's writings "were not taken seriously by scientists." But you do take them seriously, don't you? You and I have been around on him before. I recall referring to a book by him available freely on-line at that time. I can't find it now. Do you have the link? I'd appreciate it. I believe it is: Universal One.
Thanks,
bi
Hello Bi,

Yes, that note from Russell I took it from K.Wheeler's book

Yes, of course I do take him very seriously!
The fact that He was an Artist, a Painter, a Sculptor (and an excellent one) and a Book writer...plus his religious beliefs...reflected on many of his books...ALL that would not diminish at all his findings related to Science, basically about Magnetism.

Maybe they all envy and hate him, just because his wife Lao, was so beautiful!!...

Archive.org have the two books  :Universal one and Secret of light:

https://archive.org/details/49306379-walter-russell-the-universal-one-alchemy-chemistry/page/n1/mode/2up

https://archive.org/details/WalterRussellTheSecretOfLight/page/n3/mode/2up

Note: on the three dots within a circle icon, on your left upper page, press it and you can choose download pdf option.

Maybe you have never read about his power generator that he built and was powering his University...please do below:

https://www.philosophy.org/russell-optic-dynamo-generator.html#/

You are welcome

Ufopolitics

#### bistander

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##### Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #66 on: December 13, 2022, 12:10:28 AM »
Hi Ufo,
Thanks, but I was mistaken (imagine that). It wasn't Russell, it was a book by Rawl and Davis, https://archive.org/details/magnetism-and-its-effects-on-the-living-system/page/22/mode/1up?view=theater

I ran across it reviewing our previous discussion about your magnetism theory, here:

http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/renewable-energy/13672-enlightened-magnetism-the-full-proof-of-ken-wheeler-s-theories/page11#post392708

Like 7 years ago. Seems like yesterday. Thanks again for the link to free books on-line.
bi

#### stivep

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##### Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #67 on: December 13, 2022, 01:43:30 AM »
You are not going to "make me" change my mind
last century and older, literature  is often outdated.

I must agree with you to the point that everybody has rights to his own opinion.
The video https://youtu.be/MN_XtX7WYYc?t=175 was posted by the teacher.
PhD  Patrick Shamberger
You didn't give me any scientifically recognized literature opposing that what is in the video,
College physics  teaching  (of today) presents this very direction, and students must pass exam from it,
(in EU, USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and the rest of the world.)

We are here to help each other not to fight with each other.
So I do apologize if you feel discomfort, when talking about magnetism with me.
I do thank you very much for your time spent on this topic
I truly wish you  all the  best.
Be Well
Wesley

#### alan

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##### Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #68 on: December 13, 2022, 05:13:34 PM »
The magnetic force on a moving charge is one of the most fundamental known.
The magnetic force is as important as the electrostatic or Coulomb force.

all magnetism relies on current, the flow of charge !!!!
https://phys.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/University_Physics/Book%3A_Physics_(Boundless)/21%3A_Magnetism/21.3%3A_Magnetic_Force_on_a_Moving_Electric_Charge

I think all difficulty in understanding what is what  comes from the fact of lack of understanding
of principles of magnetism in atomic structure level,

F = qvBsin(th) is an interesting phenomenon, if it's rearranged into F/q = VxB (or was it BxV) it becomes an electric force field, E = Newton/Coulomb = Volts/Meter.
This is the topic of Floyd Sweet's "nothing is something" and of the scientific work of Hooper "New Horizons In Electric, Magnetic & Gravitational Field Theory".
This electric field is found to be unshieldable like gravity and Sweet says it's the source of free energy.
Not sure yet what Ufo's experiments prove, but they're of high quality. You, Ufo, could look into the above if you want FE, follow the clues, and come up with an experiment that investigates this motional electric field.

In the end we can only confirm what we can observe, the right hand rule for VxB is very abstract, I assume we don't know the underlying cause and structure, maybe it's caused by the invisible vortex, or by momentum coupling between current->B field->charge?? (just an idea)
my 2 ct's
regards

#### Frederik2k1

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##### Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #69 on: December 15, 2022, 01:37:25 PM »
F = qvBsin(th) is an interesting phenomenon, if it's rearranged into F/q = VxB (or was it BxV) it becomes an electric force field, E = Newton/Coulomb = Volts/Meter.
This is the topic of Floyd Sweet's "nothing is something" and of the scientific work of Hooper "New Horizons In Electric, Magnetic & Gravitational Field Theory".
This electric field is found to be unshieldable like gravity and Sweet says it's the source of free energy.
Not sure yet what Ufo's experiments prove, but they're of high quality. You, Ufo, could look into the above if you want FE, follow the clues, and come up with an experiment that investigates this motional electric field.

In the end we can only confirm what we can observe, the right hand rule for VxB is very abstract, I assume we don't know the underlying cause and structure, maybe it's caused by the invisible vortex, or by momentum coupling between current->B field->charge?? (just an idea)
my 2 ct's
regards

#### kolbacict

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##### Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #70 on: December 15, 2022, 08:59:17 PM »

Conclusion:

You don't have  Kapanadze and so on. Schematics  don't work.
because it is not important how many transistors or discrete elements
is there and what they do.

[/b] The only what is important and counts is:
– where the energy comes from
– what is the mechanism of energy conversion and energy extraction
– if energy is for free (like solar energy)  the efficiency, energy density,
and your gain it is not important– you still got more than zero and it is for free.

I remember this video.

#### sm0ky2

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##### Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #71 on: December 15, 2022, 10:10:28 PM »

In the end we can only confirm what we can observe, the right hand rule for VxB is very abstract,…
my 2 ct's
regards

It was created out of convenience.
The Left Hand rule is equally valid.
Flip the polarities

#### sm0ky2

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##### Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #72 on: December 15, 2022, 10:22:15 PM »
When the path of magnetism changes,
Regardless of the presence of a test particle, or not
The electric field also changes, as it is a function of the
force that created the magnetism.

Thinking in terms of magnetic asymmetry,
or parametric magnetic configurations:
The electric field becomes tangible.

In symmetrical fields, and those of simple geometry:
the field is not perceived by our current methods,
because it is ‘static’, not in a state of electric flux.

#### alan

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##### Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #73 on: December 17, 2022, 08:37:09 PM »
Faraday mentions electro-tonic state somewhere on the first pages of his original 1st paper.