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Author Topic: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations  (Read 12563 times)

stivep

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Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2022, 02:01:12 AM »
PART #4
don't miss the part number 1, 2, 3


the CIA paper https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00792R000500240001-6.pdf
talks about : Lt Col Tom Bearden lecturing at IEEE Tesla symposium and Tom Bearden  is one of four from the list here:
 Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations  « Reply #7 on: December 01, 2022, 09:23:21 PM »

so now we have two gentlemen recognized and involved in scalar waves
let's go to the third one: Eric Dollard Transverse & Longitudinal Electric Waves
https://borderlandsciences.org/cart/eric-dollard/
yes the Borderland Sciences!! 1987-8
the time all the CIA paper and also the time of this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFa-IymyWHM&list=PL1npzqsxW7Ec41ros0_Rk1_4E5H3nWGGIand

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In here we have another one of the four guys:
Peter Lindemann the Borderland Sciences!! 1987-8
presenting his colleague Thomas Joseph Brown Lecture
( mentioned here: https://overunity.com/19311/deductions-from-the-quaternion-form-of-maxwells-electromagnetic-equations/msg572084/#msg572084) - the practical guy with  experience and "results"
Thomas Joseph Brown - is the Tom Brown from the Borderland Sciences!! 1987-8   isn't he?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc0U9PawusY&list=PLHATXZW4Q1TGNGKCyx0ReM-NB2b1Rutdb&index=1

and mentioned here too( page #2)
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343095623_Deductions_from_the_Quaternion_Form_of_Maxwell's_Electromagnetic_Equations

more is coming in part #5
Wesley
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stivep

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Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2022, 01:45:13 PM »
PART #5

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That  new  EM field  component  is  associated  with  positive  and  negative  time,  gravity, positive  and  negative energies,  temperature  and  charge.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343095623_Deductions_from_the_Quaternion_Form_of_Maxwell's_Electromagnetic_Equations

Looking at that quote from above, we may see a window to endless possibilities that are not existing in traditional EM
electromagnetism. (or electromagnetic wave).


conclusion number one:
That is what mathematics does and physics says no to it, because math is a tool of physics and not reverse.

let's analyze it:
negative time last year, last month, last week, yesterday, one hour ago, one minute ago, one second ago. It refers to the past.
Negative energy -is a concept used in physics to explain the nature of certain fields, including the gravitational field and various quantum field effects https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_energy
Positive and Negative energies - are balanced. An unbalance in any of these energies causes big trouble. In the reality of science, positive and Negative energy is a concept used in physics for explaining certain fields such as quantum fields, gravitational field, magnetic field.
temperature  and  charge.- can be seen as related to battery
or

charge in space and temperature
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_charge
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so nothing new but we are not talking about that
we talking about EM electromagnetic wave  that now some people wants to call longitudinal instead of transversal.

quantum physics versus classical physics:
Would it be good if we have longitudinal electromagnetic wave?
well we already have mechanical longitudinal wave, handled by classical physics right?


conclusion number two:
It would be good if Darwin was never born and you guys were not be thrown
from your "special  superiority" (claim by your religion), into just simple mammals animals.
Human mammals, claim to have a soul and that allows them to kill
their own with soul, and other mammals with no soul who are being eaten by human mammals animals.

human animals - the  hunters also kill for pleasure of watching other mammals die in blood and pain
The same human animals makes from parts of the mammals toys, belts, women purses...


Doesn't that ring the bell? Auschwitz Birkenau?


so the possibility of existence of something unthinkable is theoretically possible right?
-unthinkable killing and claiming that Ukraine has no rights to its own existence because Russia wants their lands.
-unthinkable killing of mammals by human mammals who don't have to it meat, as they have that choice .
  while cats the mammals   don't that  have that choice, they must kill to survive.
-unthinkable EM electromagnetic wave just because Maxwell left mathematical window for that possibility:

well well well:
-Russia has their window to kill Ukrainians
-mammals humans have their window to kill and eat other mammals
-then what's the big deal with Maxwell window to  "longitudinal" electromagnetic wave right?



the only problem is that for now we know that it doesn't exist
when it "miraculously starts to exist"  (if any) it will be as "normal" as things I was talking about in the above text.
Wesley
« Last Edit: December 02, 2022, 04:05:45 PM by stivep »

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Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2022, 04:10:12 PM »
please read my comment again and learn English if you're not fluent in it.
I made some addition for you to understand it better.
It is about perception of the word in given context.
Wesley



You don't need to be a expert in English to see what's you doing.
And trying to hide it with lexical semantics.
Thats childish behavior.

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Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2022, 04:38:05 PM »

-then what's the big deal with Maxwell window to  "longitudinal" electromagnetic wave right?


the only problem is that for now we know that it doesn't exist
when it "miraculously starts to exist"  (if any) it will be as "normal" as things I was talking about in the above text.
Wesley


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD8OkbumcY0&t=2s


https://www.meyl.eu/go/indexb830.html

stivep

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Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2022, 04:43:09 PM »
You don't ned to be a expert in English to se what's you doing.
And trying to hide it with lexical semantics.
Thats childish behavior.
let's analyze  what you wrote:
the word: ned
meaning1: National Endowment for Democracy (NED) https://www.ned.org/
 meaning2: hooliganism  and +10 more  meanings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NED

the word: se
meaning1: “apart” and many other meanings https://www.dictionary.com/browse/se
meaning2:  SE: Self Employed: SE: Side Effects: SE: Software Engineering: SE: System(s)
                   Engineering: SE: Search   Engine: SE: Special Education: https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/SE

did you try to say that :
because of se - (Side effects) of my writing and
ned - Hooliganism ( disruptive or unlawful behavior such as rioting, bullying and vandalism,)
you are trying to teach me English lexical semantics?

conclusion:
My friend . You don't fully understand English , Your perception is improperly processing
English language of expression.
Please ask before you judge and go to  school to learn it
Wesley

addition:
you are so smart that you went back and corrected your grammatical errors you have made it the first time
so clever. Do you think this makes you smarter?
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Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2022, 04:56:42 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD8OkbumcY0&t=2s

https://www.meyl.eu/go/indexb830.html

the first link is some video made by some guy.
The second link is from PhD Konstantin Meyl  oh boy!!!!



some of that material was removed due to unthinkable controversy
or rejection by science world of such revelations so some links may not work
I had them in my computer for years.


http://www.meyl.eu/go/index.php?dir=50_Experimental&page=1&sublevel=2  Experimental- and Demo-Kit
1. Technical proof: scalar waves exist http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tplRbd-fso
1a Prof. Konstantin Meyl the New Tesla .http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKTkpC-DHZ8
electromagnetic vortex (spinning vortex on the outside, electrostatic on the inside; in the bottles water on the outside, air on the inside)
 
(https://ci6.googleusercontent.com/proxy/jfvuFscu_6vHLnDvZd-d8OpQtJtrUxyUaVaeqB_NYCWLB5mDGkzRSGWfpfFAdVrQkCAupQbzmBeKNhgeOU
JkoKdXeK9U63Zik6nqYkridW3phjbM2YH2Vx7YfNv3G7ZLV6aoNI4MWy71CnmL1
6Bq7YddFiS4nsbnL8mY79xdEvl8BFdIoM5aD4iZCiNABG8J=s0-d-e1-ft#
http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/dlattach/attach/130634/image//
)

(https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/O7zdt-vl3zETTdS2GyqybKAOqPf4mmDTSNufRvQnHPf-5hJPJk6rfmPorm0ks7JMdXRAp0I7HMx7ehDoQMQsOulbRsaY-hbwONV2sd5SCtwsa2cF10wRGdnKLlDXguhNeXi9D4wNQc_l7fXvv4B6EiGvatQfGAaxTKBj4QZbqLlG9MJ46UWg8LQnstv_3Bop=s0-d-e1-ft#http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/dlattach/attach/130635/image//)
 
2.Power Engineering Scalar Field Theory - Faraday vs. Maxwell and Demonstration of Longitudinal Wave Transmission
http://vimeo.com/63293831

3.Interviews with M.T. Keshe and Konstantin Meyl After September 21 Please  skip part with  mr Keshe - not important for this subject:
 Start watch  from : minute 11:57 of the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9zBn3BKd3Y&feature=youtu.be

it is so unfortunate that he associated himself with mr Keshe the crook. https://youtu.be/TXcAIbgvK_I


Wesley
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Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2022, 06:44:12 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD8OkbumcY0&t=2s

https://www.meyl.eu/go/indexb830.html

Here you have sorted links
some of them may not work as I collected them  years ago

4.Papers abstracts:
a. ScalarWave Effects according to Tesla Field-physical basis for electrically coupled bidirectional far range transponders, such as Tesla’s Wardenclyffe Tower
http://www.k-meyl.de/go/Primaerliteratur/scalar_wave-effects.pdf
 http://www.meyl.eu/go/index.php?dir=47_Papers&page=1&sublevel=0


Faraday or Maxwell?  Do scalar waves exist or not?   Practical consequences of an extended field theory  by: Prof. Dr.-Ing. Konstantin Meyl
 http://www.k-meyl.de/go/Primaerliteratur/Faraday-or-Maxwell.pdf

c.Scalar waves Advanced Concepts for Wireless Energy Transfer
http://www.k-meyl.de/go/Primaerliteratur/Wireless-Energy-Transfer.pdf
 
d.1st Annual RFID Eurasia Conference & Exhibitions September 5-6, 2007 ISTANBUL, TURKEY “MEET THE NEED FOR RFID”
http://www.k-meyl.de/go/Primaerliteratur/Proc_RFID_Eurasia.pdf


Ok it looks like none of them works.
that  is what happened with  work of the guy who is trying to
convert science into  "controversial  longitudinal electromagnetic wave."
He was rejected by everyone

Wesley

stivep

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Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2022, 06:58:43 PM »
here is another  gentleman  Prof. Robert Haralick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71Jhzh1Fzq0
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Haralick

wikipedia says that :
This article has multiple issues.
And yes indeed this guy has many issues.

Wesley

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Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2022, 07:06:19 PM »
Maybe they mistake longitudinal wave with Poynting vector energy flow?

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Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2022, 07:52:44 PM »
this is how we understand electromagnetic wave from standpoint of Maxwell equations today:
in the middle of the video is an explanation about energy of electromagnetic wave.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K40lNL3KsJ4
Wesley

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Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #25 on: December 02, 2022, 09:17:32 PM »
https://youtu.be/R3KHaRWzpFM?t=2268
this video will play from that point in time
but curious mind may try to play it from the beginning.
And this is what we are talking about the scalar wave equation
and its components.
Wesley

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Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #26 on: December 02, 2022, 09:44:11 PM »
This video is very easy  and very much informative
it even talks about my favored Brewster Angle  that I used  in
Energy extraction from Schumann waveguide.( earth/ air interface)
and it explains  Electromagnetic wave for kids  in kindergarten. :)
It is pre-Maxwell  history
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X42HsZC3B58
Magnetic, Electric Fields & EM Waves: History and Physics
-it explains confusion with longitudinal wave that Faraday thought electromagnetic wave is
-the electric field the magnetic field components of the wave
-the ether confusion of Faraday
-the Maxwell rejecting and putting to the end short life of ether
-And the beginning of the understanding of physics
consider this as one of the most important videos of your time if you are not physics men.
Wesley

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Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2022, 06:11:24 PM »
This video is very easy  and very much informative

-it explains confusion with longitudinal wave that Faraday thought electromagnetic wave is
-the electric field the magnetic field components of the wave

-And the beginning of the understanding of physics
consider this as one of the most important videos of your time if you are not physics men.

Unfortunately that video never investigates the possibility of some garage engineer developing a "light source" in which a polarizing lense has no effect, which would indicate a form of light that is completely longitudinal in nature.  And surely if it can be done with light, it could be done for any frequency spectrum.

If the above could be supported in a valid physics experiment, I would postulate waves can be transverse, longitudinal, or in any combination thereof.  That would leave it to the engineer to use the form needed to fit the requirements necessary.

Tensor waves anyone?

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Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2022, 10:15:23 PM »
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Six Fundamental Types of Waves:

First set: TEM (transverse electro magnetic) Waves:
1. TE – Transverse electric (dielectric)
2. TM –Transverse magnetic
3. TEM–Transverse dielectro-electromagnetic with dielectric as the longitudinal coaxial Z-axis.

Second set: -Longitudinal waves:
1-LD -Longitudinal dielectric
2-LM -Longitudinal magneto
3-LMD-Longitudinal magneto dielectric.

Ken Wheeler/Uncovering the missing secrets of Magnetism

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Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2022, 10:19:34 PM »
Oh yeah...

For sure it has to come here "Mr Know it all" to lecture Us all, mere ignorants, on HOW everything related to Science on Magnetism WORKS!!...

Then fill up this whole thread with a bunch of long "Newspaper type Posts" plus crappy videos, and pure BS!!

Then have the audacity to criticize others, including the Author of this Thread!!

What a pathetic character!!

@ Ramset: Can we make this Thread MODERATED, in order to clean up all the noise and GARBAGE here, please?

If it is not possible, then I will make my own one...Moderated, within my Magnetic Fields Threads.

This subject is very important...in order to understand what is coming soon...and first it has to be demonstrated all the way from the Quaternions Equations from Maxwell...all theway to understand what Lorentz did to Maxwellian Magnetism.

And so, We do not need any "lectures" from any "Mr know it all" about the "basics" and wrong concepts -up to now- about magnetism.

Ufopolitics