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Feb2006

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https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343095623_Deductions_from_the_Quaternion_Form_of_Maxwell's_Electromagnetic_Equations
Introduction.  Electromagnetic theory has been without a crucial causal element which is to  be  revealed  upon  analysis  and  subsequent  treatment  of  the  quaternion form of    Maxwell’s  equations  as offered  in  his  Treatise on  Electricity  and Magnetism [1].    That  particular treatment  of  those  quaternion  equations  of Maxwell  has  purportedly  been  found  and  engineered  by  government agencies [2,3,4,5].  The quaternion treatment of mathematician P.M. Jack of the  equations  of  Maxwell  appears  to  exhibit  the  same  qualities  as  those claimed  in  related  literature,  revealing  a  new  scalar  seventh  part  within electromagnetic expressions [6].  The potential implications extending from inclusion of the  new  scalar seventh part of the electromagnetic  field within the axiomatic basis of physics include both clean energies and gravitation.




 

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Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2022, 07:54:00 PM »
They wrote the quiet part openly .
By mistake? ::)

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Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2022, 02:02:23 AM »
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Conclusion:
Adjustment of the electromagnetic axiomatic basis of modern physical
theory and practice to include the new 7th scalar part of the electromagnetic
field as defined by P.M. Jack, could revolutionize electromagnetic and
gravitational theory. It appears that the mathematics and engineering have
already been derived and put to use by the United States Government. If
public, academic and non-military industrialized applications of this science
were fruitfully applied to serve the general population, clean energies and
anti-gravitational effects could become the ordinary province of next
generations.

Thanks Feb2006!!

Even though I knew about these hidden facts on Maxwell Quaternions for a long time by now...it is great that NOW the Gov agencies has released the papers...where they have been applying these known facts into Engineering dedicated to their benefits...(not ours, not "we the  people")

Only thing to add, is that it was not only Heaviside who changed the Maxwell Quaternions...or may I say "to hide the seventh scalar wave"...
They hired Lorentz to completely wash out all Maxwell quaternions equations, all curl calculus dedicated to Magnetism in general...and of course, to bury the "seventh element"...

All done on purpose...basically to hide all Free Energy Posibilities, All Gravitational effects...and the works...

Regards

Ufopolitics

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Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2022, 03:13:56 AM »
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343095623_Deductions_from_the_Quaternion_Form_of_Maxwell's_Electromagnetic_Equations
Introduction.  Electromagnetic theory has been without a crucial causal element which is to  be  revealed  upon  analysis  and  subsequent  treatment  of  the  quaternion form of    Maxwell’s  equations  as offered  in  his  Treatise on  Electricity  and Magnetism [1].    That  particular treatment  of  those  quaternion  equations  of Maxwell  has  purportedly  been  found  and  engineered  by  government agencies [2,3,4,5].  The quaternion treatment of mathematician P.M. Jack of the  equations  of  Maxwell  appears  to  exhibit  the  same  qualities  as  those claimed  in  related  literature,  revealing  a  new  scalar  seventh  part  within electromagnetic expressions [6].  The potential implications extending from inclusion of the  new  scalar seventh part of the electromagnetic  field within the axiomatic basis of physics include both clean energies and gravitation.

Interesting read. Note it contains this:

"... , caution is urged from the beginning that the new mathematics and hypothetical  theory  presented are  just  that, ..."

Context is the article, obviously.
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Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2022, 06:23:02 PM »
Seems a very big piece of meat for FE community!
Will also be sure it gets in front of as many “open source “ eyes as possible!


And for clarity as always, the scientific method of brutal honesty..
which demands the respect of proper unbiased scrutiny !


Thanks
Chet K

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Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2022, 07:56:48 PM »
oh boy.
we can speculate on word: idiot
were some will prove that :
-idiot is not an idiot at all
-idiot is not an idiot and longer
-word: idiot is not an insult , except when it is.
and some others will say that idiot doesn't exist, because clinical idiot is still  smarter than average animal
and we are all animals..


it is interesting subject thank you for that
electromagnetic wave is transversal not longitudinal
and revelations you're talking about are related to longitudinal wave.
there is more to come . It just requires some digging to refresh my memory

Wesley

my comment corresponds with philosophical value of the word idiot in the content.
The language used has nothing to do with pointing at someone or any form of inflammatory connotation.
it talks about, perception in relation to application.
We appliquéd with the word "idiot" but we may not talk about reality it/ - the clinical idiot. (Medical field)
We  also appliquéd with the  word "longitudinal wave"
but when we use the rejected scientifically word (descriptor) "longitudinal electromagnetic wave"
then someone will suspect that this is a joke, or idiotic joke.
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word "appliquéd"  = give a romantic look
We dont need romantic science , we need true science.!!!!
« Last Edit: December 02, 2022, 12:10:46 AM by stivep »

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Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2022, 09:23:21 PM »
PART#1

Eric Dollard
Tom  Bearden

Tom Brown 09-09-1988. & Bob Beck
Dr. Peter Lindemann https://globalbem.com/peter-lindemann-2-2-2/
When looking at names listed  above please look at the names on this video:
This is a team of Borderland Sciences
at the time  of their youth .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFa-IymyWHM&list=PL1npzqsxW7Ec41ros0_Rk1_4E5H3nWGGI

and the title  on the video is Tesla's Longitudinal Electricity
this is exactly what you talking about here:
- a scalar wave and Maxwell Quaternions


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Eric Dollard is a scientist of the type found in America around the turn of the century. He is an electrical engineer of the old school relying on experience with equipment rather than acceptance of mathematical considerations
https://www.gestaltreality.com/energy-synthesis/eric-dollard/the-work-of-eric-dollard-by-tom-brown/
In reality Eric Dollard
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the ghost of Bolinas,  haunting the place that had been his playground for nearly half his life
met there an alcoholic Philo Taylor Farnsworth III. Son of the great Philo Taylor Farnsworth II, the inventor of television.
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Eric Dollard decided to work the salvage business and sell his services as an electrician. Sleeping in his car kept the overheads down
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Dollard is not a physicist
https://thelethaltext.me/2017/06/24/2659/
Bolinas was known as Marconi test ground.  who in 1917 was building there, energy transfer system through the earth
that was meant to power ships, and provide electricity to humanity (as the customers)
https://youtu.be/He5xQOJHlrU?t=138
but before that:
Marconi made first radio contact With England  in 1903 in
Massachusetts  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do47EfKtDSM

Eric Dollard  a 'living legend' was a homeless man, living in his car, on Mohave Desert . One day he was donated
the property  with house  in Mohave Desert , by a Good Man . However Eric, was treating the given
similar way to the way, many of you are reacting to the given
example:
I gave you in my two topics here pretty much precise instruction how to
-extract energy from Schumann waveguide
- and how the electromagnetic energy in the interface earth/air works.
and many of you didn't respected it at all,-
so screw them all
they don't want to appreciate  the given so they have nothing


Eric didn't pay the taxes on the property, and it was confiscated by the government.
Today Eric lives in the lab built from money donated by respecting  him as an icon people
The lab was built by volunteers, and is managed by Aaron Murakami & Eric Dollard.
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the second part is coming:

Wesley
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Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2022, 09:24:20 PM »
electromagnetic wave is transversal not longitudinal
and revelations you're talking about are related to longitudinal wave.
there is more to come . It just requires some digging to refresh my memory

Question for you Wes:

If you simply alter the charge state of an object, wouldn't you in fact create only an electric force change on all other objects?

This is what I basically understood Tesla was suggesting when he said his waves are not Hertzian.

If we accept Tesla's premise, the follow-on question then is:  What speed does this electric force propagate at?

Telsa suggested a speed in excess of what we define the speed of light.  In a certain frame of mind, that would imply the electric change in force is longitudinal.

All well in good, but we have only dealt with a single field force, electric; not magnetic, so we really haven't zeroed-in on everything we need to have energy transfer.  We also have another component required to have kinetic energy or power, which is time.

This is still a tough nut to crack and I'm not certain we really have the tools to go much further unless we are creative and just try things looking for anomalies.  In my thinking the trick to all this is isolation of the local environment.  We allow a single field force to propagate over distance and at some receiving point we use the local environment to produce the other missing field force.  Then we have the challenge of taking the two combined field forces and sending them back to the transmitter side without loss to close the loop.  I've watched various Akula and Ruslan videos where the claim is being made they are doing just that.  I'm not convinced but I see the concept being placed into hardware.

What do you think Wes?  Are we creative enough with our opposed thumbs and big brains to take what the universe has to offer?

stivep

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Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2022, 10:00:04 PM »
Question for you Wes:
it is a separate discussion:
I don't want to disturb this topic with that yet.
Few quotes:
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We have discussed that speed is a scalar quantity and velocity is a  vector quantity.
Re: 1. The origin of the universe « Reply #6 on: November 27, 2022, 03:04:01 PM »
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Axiom:
Nothing with mass can travel as fast as the speed of light, or faster (according to relativity). !!!!!
Please read article: These 4 Cosmic Phenomena Travel Faster Than The Speed of Light
4-cosmic-phenomena-that-travel-faster-than-the-speed-of-light-

But what  about mass-less photon?:
Photons are massless, and they always move at the speed of light in vacuum, 299 792 458 m/s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon
  Re: 1. The origin of the universe « Reply #3 on: November 26, 2022, 08:20:05 PM »


charge
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charge_(physics)
Speed of electricity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_electricity
Is there a travelling speed of for electric field? If yes, what is it?
Magnetic Field of a Moving Charge https://www.physicskey.com/magnetic-field-moving-charge#
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You know a charge has an electric field around it. The interesting thing is when the charge moves, it also has another type of field called magnetic field.  So, if a charge is moving, it now has two fields one is electric field which was already there and another is magnetic field. This article is about the magnetic field of a moving charge.

I'll try to comment on it later
Wesley

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Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2022, 10:45:40 PM »
oh boy.
we can speculate on word: idiot
were some will prove that :
-idiot is not an idiot at all
-idiot is not an idiot and longer
-word: idiot is not an insult , except when it is.
and some others will say that idiot doesn't exist, because clinical idiot is still  smarter than average animal
and we are all animals..


Wesley



Are you talking about your self or someone else?
I dont think that word has a place in an intelligent conversation
Or in any conversation.
The need to use these words aren't very intelligent.

stivep

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Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2022, 11:14:38 PM »
 PART #2



part#1 is here Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations « Reply #7 on: Today at 09:23:21 PM »

continuation in : Part #2   
1986 Eric Dollard, Tom Brown & Bob Beck .
Crazy time , no internet yet.
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Longitudinal wave - a wave whose displacement is in the direction of motion. Pushing a slinky in from one end sends a compressive wave towards the other end. [/font]
but this is a mechanical wave that is based on classical physics not on quantum physics.

the entire discussion here is to find if the window left by Maxwell can fit something that is forbidden, secret, where public is stripped from the access to it
and it is sanctioned or anyhow omitted,
so please look in this CIA the US intelligence agency paper:
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00792R000500240001-6.pdf

quote:
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there is a community in US that believes that the scholar waves are realizable.In the recent conference sponsored by IEEE those were openly discussed
and proceedings on this conference exists. The conference was dedicated to Nikola Tesla and his workThe papers presented claimed - some of Tesla's work ,used Scalar Wave concepts.
there is an implied "Tesla Connection" in all of this.
The participants of that IEEE and activists names are crossed with the black
rectangle so we cannot read who this paper was talking about.but we assume that CIA has in mind names of the people listed in part oneof my writing here.

The most puzzling me is the date at the end of the CIA article
12/ 22/87
please compare  group listed in part #1 Borderland Sciences  we are talking about  them!!! right?
And person name on the top of this CIA  paper is Dr Vorona
likely:Nazar Vorona  Senior Researcher of Russian Academy of Science

listed also as:
 
Nazar Vorona Senior Researcher, Joint Institute for High Temperatures, Russian Academy of Science
Verified email at ihed.ras.ru   https://jiht.ru/en/about/

and the question I have is:
was CIA writing to Russian scientists?

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Pre-conclusion
although longitudinal electromagnetic wave is never proven
it is the subject of speculation in some thoroughly corrupted parts of the word.
in some countries where everyone is stealing, corrupting, using and abusing
despite he is scientist or corrupted government worker, or Deputy or President
everything is for sale and everything can be felt obligated,


more is coming in part #3

Wesley

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Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2022, 11:35:27 PM »
Are you talking about your self or someone else?
please read my comment again and learn English if you're not fluent in it.
I made some addition for you to understand it better.
It is about perception of the word in given context.
Wesley

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Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2022, 12:05:00 AM »
If I might interrupt


It is not the best use of an extensive vocabulary….
And typically results in a first volley to a flame war…( highly unpopular with our host)


Aside from that … ..bad manners in this venue ( poor choice of noun)


Also I read references here which I cannot find in original documents posted by Feb2006
( some names written above  seem used for disqualification of data or “maths” ??

Feb2006 link again
http://scalarphysics.com/resources/thomas_minderle/thomas_minderle-a_brief_introduction_to_scalar_physics.pdf
Respectfully
Chet K
PS
Yes I do see an addendum was added to post regarding colorful noun !


Wesley
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“My comment corresponds with philosophical value of the word idiot in the content.
The language used has nothing to do with pointing at someone or any form of inflammatory connotation.
it talks about, perception in relation to application.
We appliquéd with the word "idiot" but we may not talk about reality it/ - the clinical idiot. (Medical field)
We  also appliquéd with the  word "longitudinal wave"
but when we use the rejected scientifically word (descriptor) "longitudinal electromagnetic wave"
then someone will suspect that this is a joke, or idiotic joke.
__________________________________
word "appliquéd"  = give a romantic look
We dont need romantic science , we need true science.!!!!
End quote










stivep

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Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2022, 01:35:27 AM »
  PART #3
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The final formulations of Maxwell's electromagnetic equations were originally written in quaternions. Once returned to that form and treated with left and right hand operators as in the mathematics of P. M. Jack, a new seventh scalar electromagnetic field component emerges with possible relations to clean energy extraction and gravitation. Historical and present uses within military and humanitarian contexts are discussed. Scalar wave speeds are derived.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343095623_Deductions_from_the_Quaternion_Form_of_Maxwell's_Electromagnetic_Equations

it is also worth to say that the article was written by:
Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell’s Electromagnetic Equations.  Jeremy Dunning-Davies, Departments of Mathematics and Physics (retd), University of Hull, England;
and
Richard Lawrence Norman, Editor in chief, Mind magazine Journal of Unconscious Psychology Former Scientific Advisor Thunder Energies Corporation

so Jeremy is retired and now he can say much more than he could when he was working.
and
Richard is in business and needs the stories.
money talks as long as it sales.
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So written in quaternions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternion
formulation gave the room to existence of
scalar electromagnetic wave (longitudinal electromagnetic wave) but that doesn't mean that  it exists.
it is just mathematical possibility.

In reality that someone may say:
"You can't have -1 apple you either have apple/s or you don't have it."
however there is a possibility that sometime in the future you may need one more apple
So you are short of 1 apple for a given application, but that doesn't mean that now, you don't have apples at all.
 
In analogy to  an apple
we may have more  Maxwell  equations on the shelf now
but only four  fundamental Maxwell  equations
are in use and published most of the time as this is
what we are in need for.
- when we  start to talk about  scalar wave (-" longitudinal" electromagnetic wave)
than we  are short of  one equation that is  there  on the shelf but is not used
because it mathematically creates more  confusion to already confusing quantum physics.
Apart from that  (this  mathematics) is completely conflicting with physics  of today.

While looking at that particular paper https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343095623_Deductions_from_the_Quaternion_Form_of_Maxwell's_Electromagnetic_Equations
we see in page 2
(the pages have no number written, so just try to find page 2) quote:
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designs based in the science of  T. Brown  that  have  been practically  utilized
And we know that name. The name of T. Brown - the Thom Brown from Borderland Sciences
is the same guy? one of the heroes of four? Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations  « Reply #7 on: Today at 09:23:21 PM »
is that what that CIA paper was talking about?
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00792R000500240001-6.pdf


on the same page of the article
we have quote:
 
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Government  papers and related books state quite plainly that electromagnetic theory inclusive of a new  scalar component is indeed being used to gain these effects and, that this  same  science  has  been weaponized,  and  also  utilized  to  gain  clean energies  as well  as  biological effects

more is coming in part number four

Wesley
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