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Offline synchro1

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Paired Electro Magnets telegraph and transformer.
« on: November 17, 2022, 09:38:36 PM »
We can couple electro magnets 2 ways : wired or direct contact. One transforms magnetic power to electricity the other electricity to magnetic field. Wire to wire for a Telegraph or face to face for a transformer.

I want to demonstrate how impacting one electromagnet with a neo hammer will power the second electro magnet with a separate field.


All my measurements have shown that the secondary EM recovers 100% of the input pulse. A magnet slam into one will dislodge a magnet from the second.

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Re: Paired Electro Magnets telegraph and transformer.
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2022, 06:16:02 PM »
Wiring the electro magnets together in parallel creates a self powered Telegraph that needs no storage battery to operate. The first Telegraph relied on the Voltaic pile of Allesandro.

I am preparing a video: Tapping one electromagnet with a neo hammer will power the other electro magnet with a field that visibly agitates a stack of magnets suspended overhead! This high watermark video is as astonishing as Orstead's demonstration that electric current produces a magnetic field in a wire! The connected EM's have the power to puppet a mirror force between themselves.

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Re: Paired Electro Magnets telegraph and transformer.
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2022, 07:11:52 PM »

This video shows the waving magnes:

Magnetic Telegraph 3 - YouTube

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Re: Paired Electro Magnets telegraph and transformer.
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2022, 10:06:27 PM »
I separated the Electro-magnets to eliminate any transfer of vibration : This is authentic proof of concept!


Magnetic Telegraph 4 - YouTube

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Re: Paired Electro Magnets telegraph and transformer.
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2022, 03:43:28 PM »
This high watermark video is as astonishing as Orstead's demonstration that electric current produces a magnetic field in a wire!

Synchro1,

What you are doing is nothing but basic stuff we all know it could be done...
The stack of Neo's magnetic field are exciting the EM's coils (generating a small current) when you tap them, which is sent via two wires to the second EM which acts as a receiver, which in turn, yes, generates a small magnetic field which barely moves knife.

1- You still need to "input" mechanical power to keep "tapping" neos...
2- Plus, if you use a larger transmission wires from EM1 to EM2, with higher resistance...then you will barely "see" any movement on the knife.

Now, if you could get the huge neo you are showing above, in between the two EM's...(maybe with a small plastic in between as a gap) then tap any external side of any of the EM's with the neo's stack...and connect a scope on the parallel wires...you may see an interesting bouncing of the field back and forth...which eventually will fade out to zero signal.

No intention here to disappoint you in any ways...

Ufopolitics


Edit: You need to cut the images size to 1000-1200 pixels in width in an image editor like Adobe Photoshop.

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Re: Paired Electro Magnets telegraph and transformer.
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2022, 09:05:46 PM »
Synchro1,

What you are doing is nothing but basic stuff we all know it could be done...
The stack of Neo's magnetic field are exciting the EM's coils (generating a small current) when you tap them, which is sent via two wires to the second EM which acts as a receiver, which in turn, yes, generates a small magnetic field which barely moves knife.

1- You still need to "input" mechanical power to keep "tapping" neos...
2- Plus, if you use a larger transmission wires from EM1 to EM2, with higher resistance...then you will barely "see" any movement on the knife.

Now, if you could get the huge neo you are showing above, in between the two EM's...(maybe with a small plastic in between as a gap) then tap any external side of any of the EM's with the neo's stack...and connect a scope on the parallel wires...you may see an interesting bouncing of the field back and forth...which eventually will fade out to zero signal.

No intention here to disappoint you in any ways...

Ufopolitics


Edit: You need to cut the images size to 1000-1200 pixels in width in an image editor like Adobe Photoshop.

I agree with you and welcome your input. My tests have shown that pulling the permanent maignet away from one side generates a neutralization pulse in the other! This means that cross wired, the attraction strength should kick the magnet off the other side 🙏 There is a chance this could run as a reciprocating oscillator with 2 spring pressure SPDT switches and no external power supply.
 
Magnetic Telegraph 5 - YouTube

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Re: Paired Electro Magnets telegraph and transformer.
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2022, 11:22:16 PM »
I discovered that cross wireing will neutralize bipolar magnets. Horse shoe type magnets attracted to the Electromagnet cores!

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Re: Paired Electro Magnets telegraph and transformer.
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2022, 02:20:01 PM »
Hello Synchro1,

Well that is awesome!!...Yes, by cross wiring the two EM's, the Field generated on the receiving one, would be opposite to the one on the generating EM Coil.
It just gave me an idea... ;)
We could put together a sequencing where the "tapping" would be done by a Rotor with fixed Magnets, set at alternated polarities in PAIRS at 180ยบ.
However, you will need to make more concise, accurate testing:

1-The magnet hanging on the fishing hook, must be set with polarities facing the center EM's core.
And if you could get this hanging magnet fixed (not swinging on the hook and line) then adding a way that the magnet could pivot from its center, it will show a flip of polarities when you do test 1 (normal wiring) and test 2 reversing the connecting wires.

2- Try just reversing the other stack of magnets polarities facing the Generating EM, when tapping it...without reversing wires, then the fixed flipping magnet on Receiver should also swap physically (once you hang it fixed and pivoting from its gravitational center.

This way you would confirm that in fact polarities are changed remotely!!
By sequencing this effect properly we could get a series of "Attract-Repulse" stages, which would keep the rotation steady without any external input...
That would be awesome!!

Btw, where did you get these Electromagnets?...I see they are Chinese, got the number and will search by it.

We will call this Motor the "Burguess Effect" first applied to a Motor.

Ufopolitics

Thanks!!


Edit 1: Plus, as you have said, using small roller micro switch SPDT could regulate an accurate flipping in a timing sequence.
Note, the heavier and bigger the magnets, the stronger the Effect would be demonstrated, because the generating field would be much greater.

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Re: Paired Electro Magnets telegraph and transformer.
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2022, 07:26:55 PM »

This is a pretty cool effect because a small amount of neutral zone flutter by a magnet between the two pot poles will be amplified by the twin into a powerful oscillation!

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6z9zJnY3gvg

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Re: Paired Electro Magnets telegraph and transformer.
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2022, 07:46:57 PM »

The "Cross Wire" effect was a sterling success! The infernal genius of this effect is that the "Cross Wireing" causes a reversal of both fields in the receiver coil. The potential energy stored in the pen knife and magnet in attraction strength equal the force exerted on the power lift. A capacitor would yield the same COP!


Neutralization pulse - YouTube

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Re: Paired Electro Magnets telegraph and transformer.
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2022, 06:58:34 PM »
I can't get the attraction strength to trigger a neutralization pulse for some unknown reason! This still leaves the possibility of using the release stroke to trigger a release, then followed by the attraction stroke that triggers a secondary attraction stroke in the mate.

When the neutralization stroke completes, both magnets are up. Bringing one down generates an attraction field in the other! This opens the possibility of an oscillator. This may need a delay switch or a capacitor.

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Re: Paired Electro Magnets telegraph and transformer.
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2022, 01:22:33 AM »

I found a way to succeed at my goal! Cross wired and pole reversed. Precision springs like a Rolex watch might run a OU oscillator like this!

Attraction neutralization pulse. - YouTube

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Re: Paired Electro Magnets telegraph and transformer.
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2022, 05:30:51 PM »
The attraction unlocks it's partner,  then the partner returns a detaching force back to the stuck primary as it retracts. The forces are sympathetic. This can clearly work as reciprocating oscillator cross wired like the demonstrator. We need 2 spring pressure SPDT switchs wired in the H bridge configuration.


Simple H Bridge for Motor Control with Switches - YouTube


Curent reversing monopole piston. - YouTube
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Re: Paired Electro Magnets telegraph and transformer.
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2022, 10:04:22 PM »
This spring pressure SPDT switch has 3 contacts. The "H" bridge wires the center pins to the EM wires. Connecting a capacitor and diode would help it run smoothly.