I agree that a CoP of 53 is very large and I now think that some of that is due to the Battery Management System installed in Lithium batteries that is interfering with the measurement process. However, even if it is that high that doesn't mean high power levels as that depends on the energy applied to the generator and also the time involved in the charging process. In this case, it would be more like 200W.

As I have repeatedly said, the power tests have yet to be done to confirm useful power and you are right in that full proof of useable energy is not yet there from my work. CoP results are only a part of the story and the manual I am writing will just allow someone to replicate them. Once the power tests are done in early 2023 then I will update the manual. I have only written the manual at this stage due to various requests to be able to replicate my findings and, in some cases, to improve on peoples' builds that already exist.

I am posting another report here from using capacitors instead of a battery that shows that the battery chemistry is fundamental to the energy gain process. Now, this can mean either of two things - one that the electrochemistry is itself the 'fuel' for this process and so over time the battery will decline in its normal function or, secondly that the chemistry is a necessary and important intermediary in an energetic process and pathway yet to be determined.

Further tests will need to be devised to sort that lot out.

I would like to see this simple test conducted.
bi

To demonstrate COP > 1, do this.
Start with two batteries, identical.
B1 is fully charged (100%SoC). B2 is partially charged (80% SoC).
Place B1 as Run battery. Place B2 as Receiving battery.
Run system until B2 is fully charged, to 100% SoC.
Switch (manually) B1 and B2.
Run until B1 is fully charged, to 100% SoC.
Switch B2 and B1.
Run until B2 is fully charged, to 100% SoC.
Switch B1 and B2.
Run until B1 is fully charged, to 100% SoC.
Repeat as long as you can.

If the needed run times decrease with each cycle, you have something interesting.
If you are soon, after a few exchanges of B1 and B2, unable to reach 100% SoC on the Receiving battery, COP < 1.
bi

I concur.

Yeah doing this with a battery is an energy waster, try it! but doing it with capacitors is a different game!
look on the JB site I did a pcb for that device, I will try and find it and post it.

Hi all,

Contrary to expectations, I have now managed to complete the installation of the replication PCB and checked it against all the diagnostic checks in the manual, about 2 weeks earlier than expected. The extra time I had assigned for potential problems was not needed and so the manual and associated appendices are now complete together with the Gerber files with some minor adjustments to the PCB.

All the files are uploaded to the Mega link given earlier: https://mega.nz/folder/YUM0nLoT#bYpLIazqMM5K2IrEQjghDQ

and also to this Dropbox link at: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/td55b8675vvqtbg/AADzPSKMOI8q_YM1cFUT2T07a?dl=0

I’m sure questions and comments will arise but I will address any in batches rather than every few days or so.

There’s still plenty to do besides the power tests due to start in a few weeks, such as preparing a discussion paper for how to prove that the ‘consumption’ of the electrolyte is not the source of the measured energy gains.

Believing it isn’t is a long way from the evidence that it isn’t and this question is pretty much as important as showing an energy gain in the first place, and for which the upcoming power tests hopefully will give the much-needed confirmation.

Onwards

Julian

To aid in acquiring components, I have provided a BOM using Farnell as a reference for item order numbers. For those items that can't be got on there, I have provided links to other sources.

I attach this document but it is also now in the 'PCB Files' folder on the main link.

Julian

Hello Julian,

Must say this is a very interesting project and I'm impressed by the detail and style of your interim work.

One thing I'm not clear on is whether you have used bifilar coils, a la John Bedini, or (as seems more likely) just a single wire? Also, do you think you would notice a difference if the other style coil was incorporated?

Looking forward to seeing your final report.

Best Regards,
David

Hi Dsquared,

There was so little interest from this site that I stopped posting and stuck with just the ‘energy science forum’. Hence I have only just seen your PM.

To answer your question, all my coils are single wire and my trigger is a Hall sensor. I did build a trifilar ‘litzed’ wire coil originally but I found the tuning difficult and went for the sensor instead. Using that my rotor accelerates up to about 3,250rpm. However, I will be experimenting with a single bifilar coil soon with a PCB-based original Bedini circuit. This may seem like going backwards but I came into all this from a tangent and didn’t build a conventional’ SG machine like so many others.

My research rig is designed to test and explore a wide range of factors but first, it would help to experience what JB did (also see below) as he went to great lengths to make it straightforward to replicate.

To summarise the current state of affairs, the predicted power outputs based on the earlier obtained CoPs did not come to pass, which begs the question of what was happening that caused those very clear and pronounced results.

I am making adjustments to my setup, such as modifying cap dump circuit to a ‘low sided’ version and changes to the coils to ‘backtrack’ in a sense to get the sort of results from the original SG machine obtained, and then work back up to find what results in ‘radiant’ effects and what doesn’t.

I am also now working with someone who has achieved such and has a patent out on and more to come regarding an energy/charging system on the basis that I will acquire the 'palatable' scientific evidence of what his group has observed for years and in a repeatable way. I’ve signed an NDA so don’t ask who, what, and where 😉

However, they are aware of my role in presenting such info and details for replication by anyone out into the open, so it’s just a question of the timing of what is put out and when.

Did you get to see the ‘replication manual’? I completed this in the spring to allow anyone to replicate what I achieved up to March this year.

If not, the manual and a lot of Appendices material can be found at:

https://mega.nz/folder/YUM0nLoT#bYpLIazqMM5K2IrEQjghDQ

There is a lot there to interest the researcher, including my other related interim reports and papers from others regarding challenges to the 2nd Law etc.

Over the next few weeks, I will be writing a document on how to measure the various outputs from a rotary-based system, namely the receiving battery, the rotor, the cap dump system and a rotor energy extraction system. This was covered in the SG-2 ebook but I think there's a lot more detail that would be useful to the serious researcher, whether or not ‘radiant’ effects are being observed.

But when they finally appear, it will be very handy and, of course, this material will be added to the updated manual, whenever that comes about.

Julian

Hi Dsquared,

There was so little interest from this site that I stopped posting ...
Julian

Hi Julian,
There was interest but lack of understanding why you ignore my simple request. I assumed you had done the test and realized true result. So again, please do the following test. Thanks in advance.
bi

To demonstrate COP > 1, do this.
Start with two batteries, identical.
B1 is fully charged (100%SoC). B2 is partially charged (80% SoC).
Place B1 as Run battery. Place B2 as Receiving battery.
Run system until B2 is fully charged, to 100% SoC.
Switch (manually) B1 and B2.
Run until B1 is fully charged, to 100% SoC.
Switch B2 and B1.
Run until B2 is fully charged, to 100% SoC.
Switch B1 and B2.
Run until B1 is fully charged, to 100% SoC.
Repeat as long as you can.

If the needed run times decrease with each cycle, you have something interesting.
If you are soon, after a few exchanges of B1 and B2, unable to reach 100% SoC on the Receiving battery, COP < 1.
bi