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Author Topic: Inefficient Blotch Wall Pivot Magnet Motor Demo  (Read 4098 times)

Offline floodrod

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Inefficient Blotch Wall Pivot Magnet Motor Demo
« on: October 27, 2022, 06:35:27 PM »
I wanted to experiment with oscillating magnets just past the blotch wall on either side to turn a rotor.  Working it by hand, I can get the rotor moving pretty quickly with little force.  So I hooked up some crappy oscillator rig I whipped together and got it on the hall sensor.  The thing does turn the rotor, but it is very inefficient.

With the right geometry, angles, and reciprocator - this may be interesting. As I know it can be improved in huge margins.   It uses a leverage bar so it takes minimal force to move the rotor. 

I am wondering if I spruce it up, add a nice flywheel, would it be able to oscillate the leverage bar mechanically from it's own kinetic energy from a flywheel?  probably not, but just kicking it out there as another motor design to ponder upon.

See it here-  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_iP7vF0iEs

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Re: Inefficient Blotch Wall Pivot Magnet Motor Demo
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2022, 03:28:06 AM »

This oscillator has ferrite magnets fanning an electro magnet and charging a power capacitor. The motion of the hammer arm could power a wheel with your magnet gear. Anything that you generated from the wheel would be free power because the oscillator is generating its own power.


The attraction of the magnets to the metal case of the electro magnet does all the work because it stores the power for its own retraction in the switch spring. All the EM does is neutralize the attraction strength. The output from the chattering exceeds the minimum pulse for return. The circuit uses a FWBR in series with the power capacitor to return output from the EM coil. This leaves unharvested power in the hammer arm. The EM is only consuming 5 volts from the Capacitor for the pulse while the back charge from the EM as generator is closer to 18! You need a strong AC capacitor to get this to work!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL7-60ZZa10

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Re: Inefficient Blotch Wall Pivot Magnet Motor Demo
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2022, 05:24:16 PM »
The oscillator uses the same ferrite magnets as Floodrod's "Bloch Pivot Kundel"! It would be easy to balance a fulcrum. Watts in equal watts out. The Piezo output is OU. The wheel should boost it to over 2 COP.

The Capacitor supplies high amperage DC current to the EM coil spontaneously and is charged by a higher voltage AC current rectified by a FWBR. 

Electro-magnet coil generating power from attraction alone. - YouTube


Over 2 volts piezo output. - YouTube

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Re: Inefficient Blotch Wall Pivot Magnet Motor Demo
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2022, 07:30:49 PM »
Scaleing up with a larger Electro Magnet, let's say double the strength, would allow the wheel inertia to rise by that much with no additional input!
« Last Edit: October 31, 2022, 10:19:55 PM by synchro1 »

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Re: Inefficient Blotch Wall Pivot Magnet Motor Demo
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2022, 10:27:19 PM »
The button on the switch is greater in length than the millimeter and a half the pivot fulcrum traverses. The fork can rest directly on top of the switch. The pivot magnets can glue to a tounge depressor glued to the rocker magnets.

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Re: Inefficient Blotch Wall Pivot Magnet Motor Demo
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2022, 03:22:47 AM »

Electro magnet working backwards as a generator! Ahead of Fusion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv3qEUZvFuE

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Re: Inefficient Blotch Wall Pivot Magnet Motor Demo
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2022, 07:26:51 PM »
This kind of limit switch may work.

Offline kolbacict

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Re: Inefficient Blotch Wall Pivot Magnet Motor Demo
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2022, 07:35:06 PM »
Now can you explain where the increase comes from?
Also, I have an increase.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jeziPoJia6w https://www.youtube.com/shorts/X6143k9-epo

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Re: Inefficient Blotch Wall Pivot Magnet Motor Demo
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2022, 07:45:37 PM »
The "Bloch wall" video is an excellent demonstration of the effect! Thank you for sharing that.

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Re: Inefficient Blotch Wall Pivot Magnet Motor Demo
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2022, 05:51:21 PM »
Two electro magnets with inverted flipper magnets and reversed circuits could spin the wheel directly, free of charge off the same capacitor and FWBR alone with no further input power. This eliminates the fulcrum. Very simple build! Fantastic potential!

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Re: Inefficient Blotch Wall Pivot Magnet Motor Demo
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2022, 06:50:27 PM »
Now can you explain where the increase comes from?
Also, I have an increase.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jeziPoJia6w https://www.youtube.com/shorts/X6143k9-epo

It vibrates because your hand is shaking.

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Re: Inefficient Blotch Wall Pivot Magnet Motor Demo
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2022, 07:46:54 PM »
It vibrates because your hand is shaking.
seventy times a second? :D

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Re: Inefficient Blotch Wall Pivot Magnet Motor Demo
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2022, 08:29:44 PM »
seventy times a second? :D

It always vibrates at its resonant frequency. You can also excite it with any subharmonic of its resonant frequency.
If you mount the magnet in a fixed position (without holding it in your hand) nothing will happen.

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Re: Inefficient Blotch Wall Pivot Magnet Motor Demo
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2022, 08:33:36 PM »
Demagnetiztion is the principle. Saturation neutralization! It does not cost to desaturate with opposite polarity exposure. This carries with it the new attraction force the ferrite accrues.

The "Wesley Gary" effect!"Hendershot Fuelless Generator" - Wesley W. Gary's Neutral Zone - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACykTfXspfM
« Last Edit: November 03, 2022, 02:26:59 AM by synchro1 »

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Re: Inefficient Blotch Wall Pivot Magnet Motor Demo
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2022, 08:42:00 PM »
Two electro magnets with dual purposed flipper charger Bloch Pivot magnets inverted from one another would be reinforced by the shifting polarity of the Electro-magnet case!