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Hydrogen energy => Electrolysis of H20 and Hydrogen on demand generation => Topic started by: massive on September 26, 2022, 12:43:24 AM

Title: H2 motor
Post by: massive on September 26, 2022, 12:43:24 AM
H2 is a reality option. Either way, society/economy/government/industry/wall street is going to erase the piston engine, removing the option of home made H2 cells. Ev cars ditch mechanical engines completely.
The "Greenies" want carbon fuels gone, which doesnt mean the piston engine is the problem.
The "Greenies" were pushing for vege oil fuel but thats forgotten about and it has ended up in the food chain instead.
H2 is an option but self sufficiency is an option society cant tolerate.
so called Free energy sites pay little or less attention to H2 cells these days

https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/tiny-22-lb-hydrogen-engine-may-replace-the-traditional-combustion-engine?fbclid=IwAR1pX6pFvT8MuDz6csfdPBDKNYAI1DHuH227HmguwOtpkaiD6hNN_zs_bIs
Title: Re: H2 motor
Post by: ramset on October 29, 2022, 11:30:22 PM
We should not care about society’s unfounded fanciful whims !
Solutions are needed like this one you share above !


Thanks
Chet
PS
Do you have any links to more efficient Hydrogen production ?(H2?)
Title: Re: H2 motor
Post by: massive on October 30, 2022, 12:37:28 AM
Hey Chet
This was on TV news last week. https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/technology/2022/10/christchurch-engineering-firm-fabrum-invents-world-s-first-green-aircraft-hydrogen-fuelling-system.html

NZ is not only a tax haven for the worlds rich, corrupt and corporate.
Global Companies do development R&D here with Gov grants/funding, tax write offs

This kind of research is going on down here.
Title: Re: H2 motor
Post by: ramset on October 31, 2022, 02:31:22 PM
Massive
I did have a chance to speak with a fellow few months back ..
He said that there was unbelievable funding being pumped into hydrogen research
Globally .. he said trillions ?


Here lanca sent something interesting from years back ( where is it now ?)
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There is a  fossil/hydro-carbon fuels process to pure hydrogen (on demand )  bridge-technology :

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=overunity.com+arakelian+&oq=overunity.com+arakelian+&aqs=heirloom-srp (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=overunity.com+arakelian+&oq=overunity.com+arakelian+&aqs=heirloom-srp)..
90% less fossil fuels content means automatic 1990-2050 Kyoto Conference - 80% CO2 confirmation,but not the Paris +- 2°C max target :
hydrogen and water are GHG with GWP emission !
wmbr
OCWL
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Also this

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Chet,hello !
Related Your open question to member ' massive'  I give my " ' Int.'50 cents" answer not only about cheap,but me as cheapest known hydrogen production process source : https://www.google.com/search?q=judbarovski+cheap+hydrogen&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=judbarovski+cheap+hydrogen&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)
Carbo-Hydro ( fossil/synthetic e fuels) IC engine 2 hydrogen combustion conversion is known by BMW Otto-process engines experimental study !
 The problem with IC-engines but stay : a 6 liter f.e. gasoline per 100 Km drive car consumes totally,GHG and GWP, 120 liter per 100 Km !6liter as 1 unit from total 20 units : fresh ambiental air to engine compression process pumping !
An IC-engine conversion alternative :  e-wire wrapped pistons ,e-pistons engine
End quote



 topic of Splitting water …
On this forum there will be some lithium nitrate (20ppm) and water at 500 psi experiments
The Sam Leach water fuel claim..( will find link and add
Thanks for starting topic !
We need solutions!!
Respectfully
Chet
PS
Also some Papp engine experiments (and similar claims
Title: Re: H2 motor
Post by: massive on October 31, 2022, 09:50:41 PM
Cars have an untapped source of "energy"
Copper is used for conductors + the alternator. Lead is used for the battery. The chassis is mostly Iron and the engine, mostly iron and aluminum.
Iron is used the world over for electric fences, and aluminum for conductors.

The periodic table lists these 4 elements, yet we only focus on Cu-29 and Pb-82, not Fe-26 and Al-13.   
The lead and copper content of the vehicle could be measured in tens of kgs, while the iron and aluminum content can be measured by the hundreds of kgs. 

Every atom has at least 1 free electron. The free electrons are already there, attached to every atom. Its the Voltage that gets things moving.

PS: an EV is a battery on wheels with a motor used to haul that battery weight around.

Title: Re: H2 motor
Post by: sm0ky2 on October 31, 2022, 11:35:06 PM
Hydrogen combustion must be temperature controlled, to prevent formation of NOx in free air
Title: Re: H2 motor
Post by: easyrider76 on November 01, 2022, 03:50:58 PM
Hi all,

As I remeber, hydrogen is not suitable for pistons engine (velocity of the flame) , but there is some alternatives, one I think is very interesting, the quasi turbine:

http://quasiturbine.promci.qc.ca/EIndex.htm

There is several possiblity of use, but one is with internal combustion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heqN_ssJeOQ