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Author Topic: 12 Kilowatt Free Energy motor generator for sale $4500  (Read 3670 times)

Offline kolbacict

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Re: 12 Kilowatt Free Energy motor generator for sale $4500
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2022, 08:48:39 PM »
And as bedini said the energy to move that weight is differand.
Energy is not needed to move the weight horizontally.
If we do not raise our mass to a higher height.
Only friction losses.

Offline ramset

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Re: 12 Kilowatt Free Energy motor generator for sale $4500
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2022, 05:09:30 PM »
Just a note
I engaged another open source fellow on this “”project “
I usually make calls myself, however it is good to spread things like this
Around (my opinion).


He liked the idea of in person vetting prior to purchase, …so I just asked him if he would make the
Call ,so there would not be too much sudden calls to inventor !


I will touch base with him tomorrow for update!


On another note unrelated to this device
As a result of calls I made globally on this flywheel unit!


I did get a comment on a Don Smith device ( looks Kapanadze to me ?)
I am now Asking permission to post that too !


Unit starts up ( is connected to ground)
And then inventor removes hot lead and it keeps running
While powering a load (25 watts ?


Just passing along info …
Respectfully
Chet K















Offline indigo22

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Re: 12 Kilowatt Free Energy motor generator for sale $4500
« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2022, 06:57:49 AM »
I think this might be bomb. And please contact him w'll be waiting 4 the reaction. Good to see everybody is posetive about this one, this is a great beginning of the new world with free energy. The possebileties are endless and the end of the new world order and their monopoly companies!! Keep praying he does not end up dead somewere or get harrest. I myself think this is easy to build with lots of power, and most parys you  might find in the scapyard.

Keep up the good work guys ;D

Offline floodrod

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Re: 12 Kilowatt Free Energy motor generator for sale $4500
« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2022, 10:44:29 PM »
My opinion means little here I understand, but I think there is no free energy here.

It takes big power to get that that flywheel moving up to speed.  When you loop it, there is enough stored energy in that big spinning mass to power drills and such for a little while as it slowly winds down.

As we all know- showing lightbulbs, drills, and loads means very little.  We need to see indisputable measurements of input watts verses output wattage.

Any claims of OU that are purely based on visual operation of loads set red flags off for me.  I feel if it were OU, the presenter would be anxious to show wattage on each side.  Or at the very least, show that RPMS are not slowing while operating a load. (or even without a load)...   Loop it unloaded and keep an RMP meter there for a few minutes..  Prove that it is not slowing..

Offline ramset

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Re: 12 Kilowatt Free Energy motor generator for sale $4500
« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2022, 12:01:15 AM »
Floodrod
Good to see you !

I have been hearing back from persons in that part of the world
Who are somewhat familiar with this “inventor “,


And it’s inline with your comment!
That being said ,
Looks like I will be making the call next few days to contact inventor !


The best part of this is the open source community can make in person  investigations
for purchasing these type units ( for sale)
and not have issues with the loss of funds !


In most places on the planet!


For clarity
No one is buying things that don’t work as advertised!


Respectfully
Chet K



« Last Edit: September 15, 2022, 02:15:11 AM by ramset »

Offline e2matrix

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Re: 12 Kilowatt Free Energy motor generator for sale $4500
« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2022, 07:13:33 AM »
My opinion means little here I understand, but I think there is no free energy here.

It takes big power to get that that flywheel moving up to speed.  When you loop it, there is enough stored energy in that big spinning mass to power drills and such for a little while as it slowly winds down.

As we all know- showing lightbulbs, drills, and loads means very little.  We need to see indisputable measurements of input watts verses output wattage.

Any claims of OU that are purely based on visual operation of loads set red flags off for me.  I feel if it were OU, the presenter would be anxious to show wattage on each side.  Or at the very least, show that RPMS are not slowing while operating a load. (or even without a load)...   Loop it unloaded and keep an RMP meter there for a few minutes..  Prove that it is not slowing..


floodrod,  Those are some good suggestions regarding checking the RPM's.   From the video:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB4w_fH4hgg


It sounded to me somewhat like the RPM's slowed under heavier loads and then sounded like it sped back up some when the load was off.   While he shows no wires coming in from the floor I do believe there are still possible ways this could be faked.   But it certainly looks to be done better than most if it is fake.   


And thanks Chet for making calls and working on getting this validated or checked to see if it is just a fake.

Online seychelles

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Re: 12 Kilowatt Free Energy motor generator for sale $4500
« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2022, 07:20:28 AM »
SO WHERE DOES HE RESIDE? PAKISTAN, INDIA OR TIMBUCKTOO.

Offline floodrod

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Re: 12 Kilowatt Free Energy motor generator for sale $4500
« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2022, 04:04:25 PM »

floodrod,  Those are some good suggestions regarding checking the RPM's.   From the video:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB4w_fH4hgg

It sounded to me somewhat like the RPM's slowed under heavier loads and then sounded like it sped back up some when the load was off.   While he shows no wires coming in from the floor I do believe there are still possible ways this could be faked.   But it certainly looks to be done better than most if it is fake.   

I see what you are saying..  The video is indeed long enough to notice slow-down if it was happening.  It wouldn't have sped back up when load was taken off if it was under-unity.

But as you and others have pointed out-  the questions are "is it faked" and where is the energy coming from. 

Offline floodrod

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Re: 12 Kilowatt Free Energy motor generator for sale $4500
« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2022, 04:22:26 PM »
Perhaps it is something interesting..  Here is a video with some calculations and a simple setup showing that any rotor with mass is actually overunity..  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYw6tScZ7t8

The kinetic energy being stored is producing more mechanical work than the input power calculates to. The problem comes when trying to convert that mechanical energy back to electrical energy because of good ole Lenz..

Maybe flywheel kinetic storage and Lenz back EMF are not linked..  Meaning it may be possible to gain more from a huge flywheel than what back EMF takes away.  Something to definitely experiment with!

I have parts for a simple setup to experiment with..  2 identical PM motors with a heavy flywheel between.. 

Offline partzman

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Re: 12 Kilowatt Free Energy motor generator for sale $4500
« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2022, 05:57:40 PM »
Perhaps it is something interesting..  Here is a video with some calculations and a simple setup showing that any rotor with mass is actually overunity..  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYw6tScZ7t8

The kinetic energy being stored is producing more mechanical work than the input power calculates to. The problem comes when trying to convert that mechanical energy back to electrical energy because of good ole Lenz..

Maybe flywheel kinetic storage and Lenz back EMF are not linked..  Meaning it may be possible to gain more from a huge flywheel than what back EMF takes away.  Something to definitely experiment with!

I have parts for a simple setup to experiment with..  2 identical PM motors with a heavy flywheel between..

I find this video very interesting as I'm working on a solution to nearly eliminate the Lenz effect in a PM generator and still produce an energy output.  The stored energy in a flywheel is a perfect solution in this case.  More later on this.

Reqards,
Pm

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Re: 12 Kilowatt Free Energy motor generator for sale $4500
« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2022, 08:35:42 PM »
The problem I see with these heavy flywheel electric motor type devices is they typically don't
let them run long enough in the videos. A really heavy flywheel will store up a lot of energy
when it is really wound up to speed, and it can take a relatively long time for the energy
stored up in the heavy flywheel to be fully dissipated. A short video demonstration (aside from other
possible trickery) typically does not allow enough time to be sure the energy stored up in the
flywheel has enough time to dissipate. At any rate, any video demo can easily be using tricks of
various types, so videos are just not reliable. If this man really has a working free energy device, bringing a
smaller model device to a reputable university and letting them fully observe and test it would be a reasonable thing to do.
Someone posting videos on their webpage or on Youtube tells you nothing about whether the device
might really work or not. You always need reputable third party testing. That's my point of view, anyway.  :)


Offline floodrod

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Re: 12 Kilowatt Free Energy motor generator for sale $4500
« Reply #26 on: September 15, 2022, 10:04:37 PM »
I made my 1st crude test rig..  No overunity to report yet :-\ :-\ :-\

I also played with different size gear ratios..  Granted this is not the most elegant design- but the flywheel should be heavy enough for these motors..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxDK8qD_6mg

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Re: 12 Kilowatt Free Energy motor generator for sale $4500
« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2022, 08:00:10 AM »
We tried done this. Turned out nothing.

Offline indigo22

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Re: 12 Kilowatt Free Energy motor generator for sale $4500
« Reply #28 on: September 16, 2022, 02:05:52 PM »
Rewire the 3 phase motor collect back emf  ;D

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Re: 12 Kilowatt Free Energy motor generator for sale $4500
« Reply #29 on: September 16, 2022, 04:45:17 PM »
The flywheel alone is not the solution as Lenz is present in both the motor and especially the generator.  To utilize the stored energy in the rotating mass of the flywheel, the Lenz effect in the generator must be reduced or eliminated and at the same time, output energy must be produced.  In any given simple two winding transformer, the Lenz effect on the primary from the secondary can be nearly reduced to zero with a constant current or constant voltage load on the secondary.

See the attached paper for the solution with the former.