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Author Topic: 12 Kilowatt Free Energy motor generator for sale $4500  (Read 3741 times)

Offline e2matrix

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12 Kilowatt Free Energy motor generator for sale $4500
« on: September 11, 2022, 09:15:44 PM »
We've seen these flywheel motor generators since Chas Campbell and some seem valid.   This one is shown in a video where he jacks up each end of the frame and passes cardboard under each foot to show there are no wires coming into it from the floor.   He starts it from wall power but once it is going full speed he plugs it into itself (looped) and he runs a number of heavy amp draw tools off of it.   


It looks real but I'm not saying there isn't some hoax to this but it's certainly an affordable device for that much power and if you are in Europe facing the energy crisis expected there in the next couple months this might be something to look into.   I believe it is in Pakistan and it is 220 volt based so it might be affordable for shipping in Europe.   I don't expect most people here looking for free energy have a lot of extra cash sitting around but maybe you know someone with a disposable income who might be willing to try this device.   I've heard electricity prices in Europe have gone up by ten times recently which would seem to make this an attractive deal if it really works.   


https://www.engrnomanshahafridi.com


https://www.engrnomanshahafridi.com/2022/03/12-kw-220v.html


He also has a Google App which seems to show how to build this.   He sells the flywheel separately along with some other parts too which would seem to add some credibility to this device.

Offline Jimboot

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Re: 12 Kilowatt Free Energy motor generator for sale $4500
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2022, 10:45:33 PM »
Nomans work seems the most well put together of these devices

Offline MagnaProp

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Re: 12 Kilowatt Free Energy motor generator for sale $4500
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2022, 01:29:02 AM »
I want to believe Nomans device is real.

From his site
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"...I have sold many Free Energy Generators in different countries.
I've Visited, France, Malaysia, Belgium, Spain, Switzerland, Germany, etc."


I can find several videos as far back as 2017 that show him demonstrating his devices so they have been out there for a few years now. Is it possible to locate one of these buyers and get their opinion of the device? I haven't been able to find a video from someone who purchased and received the device.






Offline ramset

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Re: 12 Kilowatt Free Energy motor generator for sale $4500
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2022, 01:58:29 AM »
Been sending this link to members to view ( globally also dropped a note to Stefan)


If it’s real …. I believe it will be possible to purchase!
Perhaps We can start to raise money ?

EDIT
Will ring tomorrow and report back !
Also call a few who may have some info on this claim !?





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Chet K
« Last Edit: September 12, 2022, 04:02:48 AM by ramset »

Offline seychelles

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Re: 12 Kilowatt Free Energy motor generator for sale $4500
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2022, 04:09:54 AM »
I AM AN OPTIMIST. BUT THERE IS SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT JELL.
A TWISTED CABLE FROM THE GENERATOR THAT SUPPOSEDLY CARRIES
12 KW OF ELECTRICITY. FIRST ONE SHOULD NEVER DO THAT BECAUSE OF
ACTIVE AND NEUTRAL  AC NEGATIVE INTERACTION.

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Re: 12 Kilowatt Free Energy motor generator for sale $4500
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2022, 04:14:03 AM »
AND IT JUST HAPPEN THAT THE GENERATED OUTPUT IS IN PHASE WITH THE INPUT,
AND CALIBRATED TO 50 OR SIXTY HERTZ. AND SOME HOW CALIBRATED TO 240 VOLTS AC.

Offline e2matrix

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Re: 12 Kilowatt Free Energy motor generator for sale $4500
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2022, 05:48:35 AM »
I admit I'm still a bit skeptical mainly because I can't understand where the extra energy is coming from.   If I recall Chas Campbell and I think Jim Watson may have even built a similar one before Chas but I don't know that either of them had any explanation for where the energy comes from.  It may be from the local environment in ways traditional science hasn't figured out but it would be good to have some idea of where the energy comes from.   Somewhere in my hazy memory I think there was some ideas put out by someone about this type of device's source of power.  I'll dig around to see if I can find anything on it or maybe someone here knows some explanation.

Offline MagnaProp

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Re: 12 Kilowatt Free Energy motor generator for sale $4500
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2022, 06:45:46 AM »
Been sending this link to members to view ( globally also dropped a note to Stefan)


If it’s real …. I believe it will be possible to purchase!
Perhaps We can start to raise money ?

EDIT
Will ring tomorrow and report back !
Also call a few who may have some info on this claim !?





Respectfully
Chet K

There is a relatively inexpensive way to find out if this concept works or not. He is offering a 12 volt 15 amp version for 950 funds. He shows it being self powered in the video of the product page. If that is US 950$ then that's extremely inexpensive for a devise that works. 

I'd put in 150 US$ toward seeing if that version gets delivered. If I thought it was real I'd buy the thing outright no problem but I haven't seen any satisfied customer reviews yet so I wouldn't be holding my breath on a return for that 150$

Offline Thaelin

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Re: 12 Kilowatt Free Energy motor generator for sale $4500
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2022, 01:41:10 PM »
No RPM monitor, no voltage or watts out. A flywheel of that size would have a real big store of energy. Shipping on a 12K would be hell. Let it run for a 24hr under load and then show it. Proof in the puddin as they say.

Offline indigo22

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Re: 12 Kilowatt Free Energy motor generator for sale $4500
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2022, 01:53:42 PM »
I think looking at the picture it could work, the right sttup but i wouldn't buy it, i would build it with parts from the scrapyard. Way cheaper. Not so difficult sttup, you don't have 2 be a gienius to make this work. 220 volt 12Kw generator, 220 3 phase motor, and a flywheel a pullie and a belt. This wil work i think. But i am not gonna buy 1 there way cheaper and smaller machines that deliver the same amount of energy, and less noise. But he does have balls to put it on the net, wonder 4 how long and if he will survive this. If you are trying to sell some of our stuff and monitize it, you better have a whole team of security around you, otherwise this is a suicide note post.  8)

Offline indigo22

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Re: 12 Kilowatt Free Energy motor generator for sale $4500
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2022, 02:01:43 PM »
The principle is simple use a heavy weight flyweel. And as bedini said the energy to move that weight is differand. You do not have to lift it up and cary the load just have to tap the wheel to make it move,that way it's more efficient.

Offline Ufopolitics

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Re: 12 Kilowatt Free Energy motor generator for sale $4500
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2022, 02:31:12 PM »
Hello to All,

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where does the energy comes from?

IMO, the center of the whole thing is about that huge flywheel...a gigantic kinetic energy storage...to the point he can afford to disconnect motor and still keeps generating power without much change in RPM's...nor Torque.

Realize the size of that flywheel...plus the fact it is mounted on a very thin shaft (related to its diameter and weight)...which must be perfectly well balanced...not an easy piece to build from scratch, first, you must have a very large Lathe to cut that size wheel.

Note the Outer mass of that flywheel, which have must of the weight concentrated on its outer circumference...this guarantee a steady torque and speed for a while, after it reaches its top-max speed (the 3 minutes initial run).

I believe it is real, however, too bulky, too spread out, plus he only uses a few hand power tools for a 12Kw generator...not a consistent High Load component, as is, an 80 gallons 15 HP Air Compressor as a simple example...and watching air pressure does not comes down, keeps steady...while just blowing air out. Conclusion: it needs much further testing which puts it at Surge (max load) or at least, very close to max load capacity...for a long while.

Related to the money, in my opinion...is too expensive...imagine the shipment cost, basically of that flywheel alone with all required mounting hardware, on top of the $4500.00...from one side of the World to the other.

While I do not think that any of the other two components (Motor and Generator) have much modifications done at all.

Just my opinion...

Regards

Ufopolitics

Offline ramset

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Re: 12 Kilowatt Free Energy motor generator for sale $4500
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2022, 03:36:16 PM »
Being an international open source forum with many members !


It has always been the case that we can get persons ( members) to help
View and test ( with assistance from other members here.


Typically persons who are just harvesting money always find issues to avoid
In person testing!
(I see indigo member posting here…. already primes that pump ( excuses)


We shall see ?
Respectfully
Chet K

PS
For clarity..in person testing or verification is a resource
Which will be presented to claimant!

Offline ariovaldo

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Re: 12 Kilowatt Free Energy motor generator for sale $4500
« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2022, 04:21:16 PM »
There is a relatively inexpensive way to find out if this concept works or not. He is offering a 12 volt 15 amp version for 950 funds. He shows it being self powered in the video of the product page. If that is US 950$ then that's extremely inexpensive for a devise that works. 

I'd put in 150 US$ toward seeing if that version gets delivered. If I thought it was real I'd buy the thing outright no problem but I haven't seen any satisfied customer reviews yet so I wouldn't be holding my breath on a return for that 150$


I'm in.
I can put $150 as well

Offline ramset

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Re: 12 Kilowatt Free Energy motor generator for sale $4500
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2022, 05:49:06 PM »
good to see members here willing to help !
IMO
This is a win win regardless!
And a step forward for global open source FE community!


The wheels are already in motion towards a visit ( not verified yet … , it’s just the only way this makes sense when you have our global resources!


Hopefully will have info by tomorrow!


Respectfully
Chet K