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Author Topic: Holcomb Energy Systems Working Theory  (Read 4650 times)

Offline alan

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems Working Theory
« Reply #30 on: August 11, 2022, 06:27:52 PM »
Great find indeed! 

The secret of the missing piston is in the receiver coil,  the output is regular outlet AC, so that's a hint, the output coil(s) convert RMF to AC. It's _maybe_ a partnered coil too for mutual induction forces that pump current, like a piston. Maybe it's wound like the 2 partnered pairs  of the VTA but on a single core, it outputs the same. 
EX1, external exciter coil  to regauge, exciting the inside of the coils from the side, Lenz self-induction appears vertical and each coil of a pair is the other's input coil, they mutually create EMF and pump current.

Offline SolarLab

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems Working Theory
« Reply #31 on: August 11, 2022, 06:40:38 PM »
 Guess I missed the partnered output coils and mutual induction forces in Pierre's and Holcomb's devices.
Will look again... 

But you're still going to need a power source to initialize the system electronics/coils - Pierre used the AC outlet,
Holcomb uses a battery bank in the stand alone device (see his battery bank test results) for "start-up." 

Not really that complicated; just good design technique using quality (efficient - but now very expensive) parts.




Offline alan

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems Working Theory
« Reply #32 on: August 11, 2022, 07:12:17 PM »
Guess I missed the partnered output coils and mutual induction forces in Pierre's and Holcomb's devices.
Will look again... 

But you're still going to need a power source to initialize the system electronics/coils - Pierre used the AC outlet,
Holcomb uses a battery bank in the stand alone device (see his battery bank test results) for "start-up." 

Not really that complicated; just good design technique using quality (efficient - but now very expensive) parts.
They didn't mention it, it was my guess. The rotating field, the engine, is nothing special, maybe a Tesla like rotating field using AC signals works too, but using the N-S-N-S setup instead.  The output coils are the pistons, they generate the usable power, there must be his secret.

"it only rotates a magnetic field, you will not get much voltage with it as there's something else I kept secret. It's like an engine with no pistons, it won't start. It's the same thing for the dz generator, the important thing is not what we see but rather what you don't see."

Offline Ufopolitics

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems Working Theory
« Reply #33 on: August 11, 2022, 10:13:34 PM »
Great find indeed! 

The secret of the missing piston is in the receiver coil,  the output is regular outlet AC, so that's a hint, the output coil(s) convert RMF to AC. It's _maybe_ a partnered coil too for mutual induction forces that pump current, like a piston. Maybe it's wound like the 2 partnered pairs  of the VTA but on a single core, it outputs the same. 
EX1, external exciter coil  to regauge, exciting the inside of the coils from the side, Lenz self-induction appears vertical and each coil of a pair is the other's input coil, they mutually create EMF and pump current.

Hey Alan,

That -for sure- I find it very interesting!!
But, let me see if I understand you correctly...
So, It would be like a Dual Coil (like a Bifilar) on the Output single center core (based on DZ Generator structure), but connected in opposite (crossed) ends, like shown on your graphic center 4 coils output connection...that way they will be "pumping" at inverse sequencing...correct?

Wouldn't the ouput be canceled?...that is something that need to be tested in reality...

I have tried a similar approach in the past (like 6 years ago, but collapsing the field), and even though I had pretty good results...and I wound the coils in opposite directions (say one CW and the other CCW on same core)

We have to imagine the field rotation inducing in the two positions of poles (N/S) at opposite angles at same timing...then how to connect the ends to add to output, not substract.
Also, assuming wire gauge and number of turns being of identical spec's...

Edit 1: It is obvious that if we connect the 2 coils ends in parallel, we will just have a Bifilar Output coil...and in series (end of one to start of second) we will have it like Tesla's Pancake configuration...So, crossed, like you have shown...would have to be tested.

I can do it with my setup...change the connections, then see how it works....but again, I am speaking off my mind here...would have to gather all of it and make diagrams on CAD first.

Thanks for your input!!

Ufopolitics

Offline Cadman

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems Working Theory
« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2022, 03:10:07 PM »
Psssst....hey c'mere
there's a great big transformer in Pierre Cotnoir's videos... it doesn't work without it...
don't tell anyone

Offline Cadman

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems Working Theory
« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2022, 07:10:38 PM »
... never mind ... wrong hypothesis.

But I still think that trafo is a very important part of the whole.

Offline kolbacict

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems Working Theory
« Reply #36 on: August 13, 2022, 08:38:58 AM »
TO TEST THIS IDEA BUILD TWO OF AS PER THIS UTUBE. THEN
SHAZAM. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po-yib77vgA&t=192s
This is true ?  It is interesting. But it seemed to me that the ball touches the walls of the glass.
 All in accordance with Earnshaw's rule.   I need to try.
In principle, the magnet can be hung so that it does not touch anything possible in any dynamically controlled coil.

Offline ramset

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems Working Theory
« Reply #37 on: August 13, 2022, 09:37:30 AM »
I know Luc and a few others did spend years on Pierre’s device to no avail.( working with Pierre)
And Pierre was  never able to get original device working again after some fire damage or over heat scenario??


And to my knowledge that is the case still ( been calling around)
However
Seems Holcomb debut is tickling the “what if’s” with builders who dabbled back then !


Also I am uncertain that any Holcomb product has actually gone to a customer yet!




Respectfully
Chet K




Offline Jimboot

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems Working Theory
« Reply #38 on: August 14, 2022, 12:18:26 AM »
I know Luc and a few others did spend years on Pierre’s device to no avail.( working with Pierre)
And Pierre was  never able to get original device working again after some fire damage or over heat scenario??


And to my knowledge that is the case still ( been calling around)
However
Seems Holcomb debut is tickling the “what if’s” with builders who dabbled back then !


Also I am uncertain that any Holcomb product has actually gone to a customer yet!




Respectfully
Chet K
a tech that threatens, fossil, wind, solar, energy storage and [size=78%]energy distribution not shipping. If the goal is to make money from the device it will never ship. It would simply be bought out to protect existing markets. Pretty easy business decision. [/size]

Offline Jimboot

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems Working Theory
« Reply #39 on: August 17, 2022, 11:19:56 AM »
I'm looking for easier ways to fabricate a rotor for an existing 1kw gennie stator. I was thinking could we use at least 2 solenoids the diameter of exisiting rotor 90deg to each other? Then we could utilise both ends of the solenoids for our 4 pulsed poles. Probably a bad idea but just a thought. I'd simulate it first if I knew how :)

Offline alan

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems Working Theory
« Reply #40 on: August 17, 2022, 12:24:52 PM »
Rotor? Must it not be a stator that contains the coils that radiate inwards?

Offline Ufopolitics

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems Working Theory
« Reply #41 on: August 17, 2022, 02:32:50 PM »
Hello to All,

I have been thinking a lot about Magnetic Fields Propagations, Projections, plus the way they react basically engage, wrap around with steel cores, So, We could go (project rotating field) from Inside-Outwards expanding our exciter rotary field towards an outer output Stator...or...We can go as Cotnoir did it...from Outside Inwards.

The advantages -that I see- to make this setup like Cotnoir, is that we get a more dense, more concentrated Field projected towards the center...with much less losses than when we project from inside outwards.
Also, since we are winding the outer core to carry the field switching coils, from the geometrical point of view, we have much more room, so, are able to build a much more concentrated, higher resolution field.

As well as building an Inner Output Stator, is way more simpler, than to make a complicated, many tooth inner rotor...which, if we are to make it a higher resolution, would need to consist -at least- of 36 tooth...to have a 10º displacement angle, resolution field.
The "ideal" structure should be of an even lesser angle, like a 5º...but then we will need at least a 72 tooth core...

Understand this simple fact...the Higher the Resolution (the smaller the displacement angle) would keep "alive" a much more stronger field -at all time- during rotation...since many more coils would be always ON during rotation/displacement of field.

And as the last advantage...We could have Two (Four Poles) or even Three (Six Poles, like Pierre Cotnoir had) full Fields spinning, which would reduce considerably the required operating rotational speed...and that, my dear friends, we could only achieve with an outer field rotating component.

My two old copper pennies here...

Regards

Ufopolitics


Edit 1: If inward-outward field projection would be so effective...then why does Holcomb would need to add a secondary Outer Rotor, if not to 'assist' and 'enhance' propagated rotational field?
Edit 2: Image attached is based on Six Poles (3 Fields) for both scenarios, Out-In and In-Out, please note the ATTRACTION FORCES established between Field Poles, on the Outward Spinning Field (left image) NOT existing on the Right Image (Inward Field to Outer)
« Last Edit: August 17, 2022, 05:26:29 PM by Ufopolitics »