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Author Topic: Uploaded SMOTGAIN.AVI  (Read 10740 times)

Offline hartiberlin

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Uploaded SMOTGAIN.AVI
« on: April 28, 2005, 01:33:05 AM »
Hi All,
I have converted the pretty big file from Jean Louis Naudin
about his SMOT experiments and now it is only
2.2 Mbytes big.
It is now at:

http://www.overunity.com/smot/smotgain.avi

Regards, Stefan.

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Uploaded SMOTGAIN.AVI
« on: April 28, 2005, 01:33:05 AM »

PaulLowrance

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Re: Uploaded SMOTGAIN.AVI
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2005, 05:01:09 AM »
Thanks Stefan, but I for one have seen that video a zillion times.  I shall not comment on this now since I have already done so a zillion times.

I have analyzed this SMOT in extreme detail and can assure anyone that it is not free energy much less OU.  So far there is no proof of continuous looping in 8 years and there never will be.  I am saddened by this SMOT project because it is wasting so much valuable time in the free energy community.

If the oil companies such as the Saudis wanted to succeed in delaying worldwide free energy, then they should be proud of the SMOT.

Sincerely,
Paul

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Re: Uploaded SMOTGAIN.AVI
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2005, 10:35:26 AM »
Posted on the Promtheus Effect discussion group:

--- In Prometheus_Effect@yahoogroups.com, "softwarelabus"
<softwarelabus@y...> wrote:
>
> there is no way in this world you are or anyone is going to
> beat me by getting me to waist valuable time and money building
> this machine.

Beat you? At what? Making a OU device? You lost that round in 1997
when I published the SMOT plans.

Well as least you have finally exposed yourself and revealed your
true intentions. To cast doubt, foster your own ambitions, goals and
theories.

By the way Paul, flux gate motors are not OU.

> I am here to discuss with anyone factual data, any
> step-by-step processes, and to help these people see the "the
> light."

See what "Light"? The "Light" of YOUR theories? Who appointed you or
even asked you to do this? How dare you insult the intelligence of
the other list members by talking down to them like this.

If your time is so pressed, then maybe you should stop wasting it in
this forum and show the world how you can make a OU flux gate motor.

Greg

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Re: Uploaded SMOTGAIN.AVI
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2005, 10:35:26 AM »
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Offline magpower

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Re: Uploaded SMOTGAIN.AVI
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2005, 04:29:18 PM »
Hi Paul

I have seen this many times before also but still no proof yet. This stuff has even made me pull out my old SMOT and see nothing new with it, and as you say delaying R/D into a magnet flux gate. Doors open on both sides and a push to get through.This is want we as a group should be doing. On a side note Harris said his Tomi had a exit with no pull back. Lately been grinding slots in my blocks to find this out.No luck to speak off. I think S. Harris work should be revisted again before SMOT.

Wayne

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PaulLowrance

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Re: Uploaded SMOTGAIN.AVI
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2005, 06:32:04 PM »
Dear Magpower,

Yes, I agree with you.  This is a very sad situation.



Greg,

Why do you simply copy & paste the same message and post it in numerous places?  This is the FOURTH place you have posted this exact same message-- three here at overunity.com and one at your yahoo forum.  Are you OK?  That is such poor etiquette.

Once again, here is my reply:

+++++++++++
Greg,

"prometheus_effect" <prometheus_effect@y...> wrote:
> > there is no way in this world you are or anyone is going to
> > beat me by getting me to waist valuable time and money building
> > this machine.
>
> Beat you? At what? Making a OU device? You lost that round in 1997
> when I published the SMOT plans.

You don't seem to understand? I have clearly stated that IMHO the SMOT & so-called prometheus effect project is a distraction. So if I am convinced the SMOT and prometheus effect are false then why would I allow myself to build the machine when others have already done so. If I allowed myself to fall victim to your distraction then I would be beaten.
Cast doubt? Well, it seems I am the one who is offering science and math at your Yahoo forum. On numerous occasions I have challenged anyone to find error in my math or step-by-step process-- still no takers. I have asked you repeatedly for this so-called document that contains proof. Still to this day you have not point to the exact location of this document. You would have to know that I would find any errors in such a document if they existed.

I lost the round in 1997, Greg???  I just found out about the SMOT & so-called prometheus effect just recently this year, as in about a month or so ago.  Don't you recall?  You were the one who came to the Yahoo Group forum that Sterling so kindly created for me and you attempted to bring it down by false science claims.  You tried to find error in my research and you failed miserably.  Don't you recall the major mistake you made in the permeability & RL time constant-- how I so clearly pointed out your error?  That's how I found out about the so-called prometheus effect.  It would seem that you are the one who lost the round Greg on my forum and also back in 1997 when you claimed a looping SMOT.  Many people including Stephan talk about your old claims of looping the SMOT.  So if you had the smoking gun 8 years ago Greg, then what happened?  Can you in good conscience take these poor people another 8 years?  I'll pray tonight that these people will see the truth in you.



> By the way Paul, flux gate motors are not OU.

BTW Greg, I never said flux gate motors are OU. You are the one who
believes in Over Unity. I have repeatedly claimed that I am not a
follower of OU, but rather I prefer to use the term Free Energy.  Please quote me!  I'll be waiting.



> > I am here to discuss with anyone factual data, any
> > step-by-step processes, and to help these people see the "the
> > light."
>
> See what "Light"? The "Light" of YOUR theories? Who appointed you or
> even asked you to do this? How dare you insult the intelligence of
> the other list members by talking down to them like this.

So you think that it should be a dictatorship society? That people
cannot come to your prometheus_effect forum to offer math and step-by-step processes to disprove you?



> If your time is so pressed, then maybe you should stop wasting it in
> this forum and show the world how you can make a OU flux gate motor.

Please by all means show these people where I stated the flux gate motor is OU? You are the one who believes in OU. I have clearly stated many times that I am not a follower of OU but rather free energy.  There is a vast difference. I think you are now grasping at straws to the point of trying to put words in my mouth. You put words in my mouth without quoting me.  I'll be waiting and will remind you of it.

I think your days are coming to an end Greg.  People are now posting your 8-year-old posts.  Even people such as Joe are now questioning you.  My motives are to help people free themselves with Truth.  I am not trying to judge you.  Believe me Greg, there is a far greater judge then I!!!

Wasting my time?  I think about the well being of other people Greg. Do you understand getting past the Me Me Me stage?  Why do so many people in modern society have such difficulty with being of service to others; i.e., getting past the "Me" stage, spending ones time helping others.  I have signed up for numerous local projects to help the community.  It's called Unconditional Love.  It's called being spiritual.  It's called being a good person.  It's called Pure Logic.  Even the character portrayed in Star Trek known as Spoke said while sacrificing his life to others, "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few."

Sincerely,
Paul

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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2005, 06:32:04 PM »
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Offline Kysmett

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Re: Uploaded SMOTGAIN.AVI
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2005, 11:49:23 PM »
Is there any reason that both the flux gate and the SMOT can't be independantly pursued.  Or perhaps each developed until the point at which they are ready to be synthesized into one efficient working unit?

Does the pursuit of one necessarily invalidate the other?  I don't think so.  This is ego: "what I'm working on is SO much more important than what you are working on".  Its crap.  I don't care who started it, or who said what, but this entire argument is gauche.


PaulLowrance

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Re: Uploaded SMOTGAIN.AVI
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2005, 12:31:11 AM »
Is there any reason that both the flux gate and the SMOT can't be independantly pursued.? Or perhaps each developed until the point at which they are ready to be synthesized into one efficient working unit?

You know Kysmett, you'll have to talk to Greg about the flux gate.  I have no idea where he's coming from.

Paul

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Offline prometheus_effect

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Re: Uploaded SMOTGAIN.AVI
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2005, 12:40:06 PM »
> By the way Paul, flux gate motors are not OU.

BTW Greg, I never said flux gate motors are OU. You are the one who
believes in Over Unity. I have repeatedly claimed that I am not a
follower of OU, but rather I prefer to use the term Free Energy.? Please quote me!? I'll be waiting.

Hi Paul,

Your theory claims, from my reading, to be capable of producing more energy output
than that inputted into the coil. Most folks would call that Over Unity (defined as
Energy Out > Energy In) . Are you now saying your theory can't produce more
energy output than energy input?

As far as Free Energy there is no such thing. Energy always has to come from
somewhere and goto somewhere. Drawing on ANY energy source will produce
other effects, some of which may be undesirable.

"There are No Free Lunches."

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PaulLowrance

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Re: Uploaded SMOTGAIN.AVI
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2005, 03:51:19 PM »
Your theory claims, from my reading, to be capable of producing more energy output
than that inputted into the coil. Most folks would call that Over Unity (defined as
Energy Out > Energy In) . Are you now saying your theory can't produce more
energy output than energy input?

That's because you don't know what you are talking about half the time Greg.  I will not repeat again, so just read my previous post.


As far as Free Energy there is no such thing. Energy always has to come from
somewhere and goto somewhere. Drawing on ANY energy source will produce
other effects, some of which may be undesirable.
 

Free energy can be free.  It is in reference to the continues cycle.  It is understood that there is a one-time cost and a maintenance cost if such a machine were to break.  People in this industry try to stay away from the term Over Unity.

So you are admitting you are wrong once again Greg?  I asked you to show the quote where I stated the flux motor was OU.  I am still waiting.

Paul

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Re: Uploaded SMOTGAIN.AVI
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2005, 03:51:19 PM »
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PaulLowrance

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Re: Uploaded SMOTGAIN.AVI
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2005, 08:22:48 PM »
I posted a very simple test to verify if the SMOT is OU or not.  See http://overunity.com/index.php/topic,118.45.html

Paul

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Re: Uploaded SMOTGAIN.AVI
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2005, 01:26:03 AM »
Paul wrote:

That's because you don't know what you are talking about half the time Greg.? I will not repeat again, so just read my previous post.

Hi Paul,

Ok I'll ask a simple question.

Does your theory / simulations indicate a actual machine, based on your theory, will put out more real work / power than that which must be inputted into the coil to produce the output?

Or to look at it another way say we:

1) Put your machine in a box.

2) Feed power in & put a known load on the output.

3) Measure power in and power out.

Can you please post a table of what those measurement will show?

Regards,
Greg

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Re: Uploaded SMOTGAIN.AVI
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2005, 01:53:38 AM »
Greg,

IMHO you have terrible etiquette.  Last week you posted the exact same post by copying & pasting four times.  Then you posted a private IM message, which I sent you, to a public forum for everyone to read, which really I don't care because I back everyone word of it, but you did not ask me.  And now you are starting a completely different subject in this thread.  This thread is on the SMOT.  If you want to release your anger on me today because I found a big error in your Excel data then please delete your post here and post it in a new thread.

Paul



Paul wrote:

That's because you don't know what you are talking about half the time Greg.  I will not repeat again, so just read my previous post.

Hi Paul,

Ok I'll ask a simple question.

Does your theory / simulations indicate a actual machine, based on your theory, will put out more real work / power than that which must be inputted into the coil to produce the output?

Or to look at it another way say we:

1) Put your machine in a box.

2) Feed power in & put a known load on the output.

3) Measure power in and power out.

Can you please post a table of what those measurement will show?

Regards,
Greg

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Re: Uploaded SMOTGAIN.AVI
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2005, 03:05:34 AM »
Paul,

You big error was to think you could insult me privately and then show another face on a public forum. I don't think you will try that again.

The only error in the Excel spreadsheet is your too quick analysis. I note you have finally stopped talking about the ball having significant KE on exit. Just maybe you should have listened to those who have built and adjusted SMOT ramps before suggesting "off the planet theories" to try to explain away the losses.

Anyway, when will you stop ducking and answer the simple input & output power question I put to you?

Greg

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Re: Uploaded SMOTGAIN.AVI
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2005, 07:52:18 PM »

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Re: Uploaded SMOTGAIN.AVI
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2005, 06:14:15 AM »
>> You big error was to think you could insult me privately and then
>> show another face on a public forum. I don't think you will try that again.

I haven't read the post in question (so what would I know!).. but I think it is good manners to give criticism in private.

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