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Title: Why can't countries mod national security laws, to put overunity on the grid ?
Post by: ideas99889 on July 07, 2022, 01:30:47 AM


  Why can't countries modify national security laws, to install overunity on their electricity grid ?

   I mean, make / put the installation of overunity on their electricity grid,  a matter of national security / completely secret.

   Slippery slope in this aspect, is almost not existent, since customers would still be paying electricity bills, but just more normal types of electricity bills, not out of control electricity bills.
  Also, in a different scenario, where grid electricity would be free to customers ( or almost free ), that also would not be a slippery slope, that would not make peoples lives free, since food, rent, petrol, clothes, mobile-phone-bills, and all the other types of costs, would not be free.

   There was once a famous hydroelectric-dam that had to be cancelled, due to social opposition, and later I read that the solution was to make 'unspecified' modifications to various other dams to make up the electricity that they wanted from the cancelled dam.  I assume they did not install amplification equipment, don't know.
Title: Re: Why can't countries mod national security laws, to put overunity on the grid ?
Post by: Paul-R on July 07, 2022, 09:14:10 AM
What technology do you have in mind?
Title: Re: Why can't countries mod national security laws, to put overunity on the grid ?
Post by: tonygiang on July 07, 2022, 01:13:28 PM
In my opinion don't expect to connect to the grid with your OU technology ! Let's make a off grid OU generator !
Title: Re: Why can't countries mod national security laws, to put overunity on the grid ?
Post by: stivep on July 07, 2022, 06:32:57 PM
Why can't countries modify national security laws, to install overunity on their electricity grid ?
the answer is: none.
"Overunity"– doesn't exist, never existed and will never exist.
Wesley
Title: Re: Why can't countries mod national security laws, to put overunity on the grid ?
Post by: memoryman on July 07, 2022, 06:46:50 PM
To install OU devices, you have to HAVE them first; where can I buy one?
Title: Re: Why can't countries mod national security laws, to put overunity on the grid ?
Post by: stivep on July 07, 2022, 08:47:14 PM
To install OU devices, you have to HAVE them first; where can I buy one?
you not even bother to read .
So can you read now?
the answer is:
"Overunity"– doesn't exist, never existed and will never exist.

Wesley
Title: Re: Why can't countries mod national security laws, to put overunity on the grid ?
Post by: Paul-R on July 07, 2022, 10:13:25 PM
the answer is: none.
"Overunity"– doesn't exist, never existed and will never exist.
Wesley
It is all about definition.

In one of his UK conferences, Patrick, God rest his soul, defined  OU as the energy you get out divided by the energy YOU put in.

The trouble is that one has to have the commonsense not to include PV panels and heat pumps.
Title: Re: Why can't countries mod national security laws, to put overunity on the grid ?
Post by: memoryman on July 07, 2022, 10:15:22 PM
Wesley, I saw that BEFORE I posted; note that what I posted is not what YOU posted; it augments your post.
Title: Re: Why can't countries mod national security laws, to put overunity on the grid ?
Post by: stivep on July 07, 2022, 10:17:53 PM
thank you my friend
Wesley
Title: Re: Why can't countries mod national security laws, to put overunity on the grid ?
Post by: BorisKrabow on July 08, 2022, 09:53:46 AM
The question is, will the blue buckets of the global conspiracy interfere with the solar bottles   :)
Title: Re: Why can't countries mod national security laws, to put overunity on the grid ?
Post by: tonygiang on July 10, 2022, 12:17:38 PM
Hi ideas99889 !
In fact, this OU technology makes national energy security much better , for example : when there is war, the national grid is the most vulnerable place to attack, causing widespread power outages. Or a natural disaster, which Texas experienced a massive blackout when a blizzard damaged the grid! Independent OU electricity is better, in my opinion, there is no need for high voltage grid!
Title: Re: Why can't countries mod national security laws, to put overunity on the grid ?
Post by: Paul-R on July 10, 2022, 12:22:30 PM
Hi ideas99889 !
In fact, this OU technology makes national energy security much better , for example : when there is war, the national grid is the most vulnerable place to attack, causing widespread power outages. Or a natural disaster, which Texas experienced a massive blackout when a blizzard damaged the grid! Independent OU electricity is better, in my opinion, there is no need for high voltage grid!
...and, of course, we can sell the energy to the grid. Whether it is worth it will depend on the Feed In Tariff, which is a matt5er of politics.
Title: Re: Why can't countries mod national security laws, to put overunity on the grid ?
Post by: alan on July 15, 2022, 08:30:41 PM
You can connect them to your home grid and your electricity meter will then tick backwards when your generator (like solar panels... :) ) delivers energy.
Title: Re: Why can't countries mod national security laws, to put overunity on the grid ?
Post by: alan on July 15, 2022, 08:32:38 PM
the answer is: none.
"Overunity"– doesn't exist, never existed and will never exist.
Wesley
Do aikula and kapanedze work as claimed - more energy delivered than fed by user?
Title: Re: Why can't countries mod national security laws, to put overunity on the grid ?
Post by: ideas99889 on August 28, 2022, 06:46:48 AM
Instead of a country nationalizing / buying? it's main electricity companies ( to try and control electricity prices ), couldn't they just nationalize -
 - The part of the administration section of the company that sets / issues the prices, or a long list of similar solutions to do with the company administration ( unless making laws so that the government can directly control prices is an option ).
 - And maybe nationalize only a small part of the hardware equipment ( if a government decided to use it's national secrecy laws to install amplification-transformers, and of course illegalize images of such equipment to ever be published )
 - In other words, a 100% flexibility of solutions, instead of a yes or no to a government takeover of huge companies.

   Since, at almost all times electricity is a very profitable business, almost any company would agree to having a small percentage of it being nationalized, or other solution, or if not, offer it to another company. 
Title: Re: Why can't countries mod national security laws, to put overunity on the grid ?
Post by: stivep on August 28, 2022, 04:54:36 PM
Do aikula and kapanedze work as claimed - more energy delivered than fed by user?
No Akula nor Kapanadze manifested nonsense of OU.
They didn't explain  the process of conversion but they clearly stated about energy conversion form environment.
Wesley
Title: Re: Why can't countries mod national security laws, to put overunity on the grid ?
Post by: tonygiang on August 29, 2022, 02:19:15 AM
In my view , FE has many advantages for both energy security . It has the ability to be distributed, in contrast to the traditional grid which is centralized. Through 2 wars in Yugoslavia and Ukraine today is clear. Depends only on the level of understanding of the governments of the countries about FE. But this seems far-fetched...
Title: Re: Why can't countries mod national security laws, to put overunity on the grid ?
Post by: Paul-R on August 29, 2022, 11:39:55 AM
No Akula nor Kapanadze manifested nonsense of OU.
They didn't explain  the process of conversion but they clearly stated about energy conversion form environment.
Wesley
But the real question is this: Are they getting more energy out than the energy that THEY put in?
Title: Re: Why can't countries mod national security laws, to put overunity on the grid ?
Post by: rakarskiy on August 29, 2022, 12:33:29 PM
The basis of the energy industry is the production and sale of electricity (no matter what hydro, hydrocarbon, nuclear, solar or wind power plants), production (gas, oil, coal), production and sale of hydrocarbons as fuel elements for production, transport or electricity generation).
The next appearance of a device available for production that will produce electricity from nothing will not only revolutionize, but also cause a deep crisis in the global economy.
When the world was moving from horse-drawn transport to ICE transport, there was a small but devastating crisis in the feed (forage) segment. This crisis was not noticed, so the process was long, but many who lived this simply became beggars, it even came to suicide.
In our age of global market coverage, it is difficult to imagine the extent of the peak in the market for power generation, fuel extraction, etc.
In any case, the world needs to go through this unpleasant moment and be ready for it.
Title: Re: Why can't countries mod national security laws, to put overunity on the grid ?
Post by: skywatcher on August 30, 2022, 07:57:21 PM

  Why can't countries modify national security laws, to install overunity on their electricity grid ?


You don't need a grid, if you have a device which supplies 'free energy' 24/7.
And i'm not aware of any laws which forbid the use of such a device, as long as it is not dangerous for the environment.

But the problem is: there is no such device.
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Post by: ideas99889 on August 31, 2022, 04:34:49 AM
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Title: Re: Why can't countries mod national security laws, to put overunity on the grid ?
Post by: ideas99889 on August 31, 2022, 04:49:24 AM
You don't need a grid, if you have a device which supplies 'free energy' 24/7.

But the problem is: there is no such device.

Generally speaking, to make secret overunity-power-amplification palatable for governments to install on the grid, under their national-secrecy-laws, it would be essential to maintain the grid, and to continue suppressing overunity devices outside of power-stations, to keep things as people know it, and if people want overunity devices, they can have them without putting it on tv.

NOTE - My definition of suppressing is simply not mentioning the existence of overunity on mainstream media like public tv, and governments not publicly acknowledging it's existence.  But still allowing it on the internet.   However, what about private-transport departments in governments and residential/business electricity providers, surely they would need internal policies regarding overunity-generators in private cars or homes etc, to ensure some types of regulations are met or to investigate accidents.

Me, I need overunity-devices in the shape of common batteries, to not buy batteries, and, overunity powered earbuds ( with effective noise-cancellation ).

Amplification-transformers, that's thicker wire on the secondary/output coil ( obviously to collect more, and thicker wire has less resistance ).
   Also on Amplification-transformers, I recently read that the 'spacing' is also a factor, but it didn't actually detail it, so I only assume that it referred to either, ( 1 ) - The spacing between each winding on the secondary/output coil,  or,  ( 2 ) - The diameter of the windings of the secondary/output coil around the core, I think that one is less likely.
Title: Re: Why can't countries mod national security laws, to put overunity on the grid ?
Post by: Paul-R on August 31, 2022, 11:31:07 AM

NOTE - My definition of suppressing is simply not mentioning the existence of overunity on mainstream media like public tv,
What device or technoplogy do you have in mind?

Title: Re: Why can't countries mod national security laws, to put overunity on the grid ?
Post by: rakarskiy on August 31, 2022, 11:38:56 AM
You don't need a grid, if you have a device which supplies 'free energy' 24/7.
And i'm not aware of any laws which forbid the use of such a device, as long as it is not dangerous for the environment.

But the problem is: there is no such device.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLHMn3HbhDg
Title: Re: Why can't countries mod national security laws, to put overunity on the grid ?
Post by: conradelektro on September 01, 2022, 01:22:03 AM
I want free energy, but too many people do not want it. Therefore you can not have free energy. Much more people haven to really want it, before it can come.


If you want something, you will get it. But only, if you really want it. The more you want, the more you get. But your „I want it“ has to be really sincere. „I am not sure I want it“ clearly is not enough.
Title: Re: Why can't countries mod national security laws, to put overunity on the grid ?
Post by: Paul-R on September 01, 2022, 10:49:21 AM
I want free energy, but too many people do not want it.
Can youi name anyone who, when asked if they would like unmetered energy, said "No"?

The problem is that few people believe it is possible and so fewer people are working on it. This applies particularly in resource rich environments like universities.