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Author Topic: Liberty engine..  (Read 1236 times)

Offline rebar

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Liberty engine..
« on: July 02, 2022, 08:31:27 PM »
Hello folks, new here..

 I laughed when I first looked at the picture because we were all taught you cant get something from nothing..  But the video's sure do "look" like there are no batteries or input..  Thoughts?

Part 1. Engine build: https://youtu.be/ovSPkIcJJDk
Part 2. The Engine put to the test 1: https://youtu.be/VhRPYG7HeSw
Part 3. The Engine put to the test 2: https://youtu.be/_QSwwhazxsU
Part 4. Testing the Engine for 2 hours: https://youtu.be/0x35ytzf78c

Offline hartiberlin

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Re: Liberty engine..
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2022, 05:55:37 PM »
There are hidden cables in the corners of the plexiglas box, so you will not see them due to the light bending of the plexiglas box...
Also when they had this engine on the table they did not move it, cause the current came fed under the blanket... You still can see a black cable in the corner of the table..

So in my view it is just a clickbaite scam to make Youtube money...

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Liberty engine..
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2022, 05:59:11 PM »
in this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QSwwhazxsU

You can see the black cable at the upper right corner on the table at 4:02 Minute
and see, that they will  not move the engine on the table or pick it up...

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Re: Liberty engine..
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2022, 06:02:40 PM »
The black cable goes probably under the grey carpet to the engine and powers  it..

Offline rebar

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Re: Liberty engine..
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2022, 07:53:08 PM »
OK, thanks..

  Sorry I don't see that cable you say is there at 4:02 hartiberlin..

And this video shows him picking it up and walking around at 15:45..  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhRPYG7HeSw

I wish I could find someone who built one that didn't work, so I could stop wondering..



Offline nightlife

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Re: Liberty engine..
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2022, 09:08:24 AM »
It looks legit but it also sounds to good to be true. This is one is going to make me get back in the game.

Offline r2fpl

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Re: Liberty engine..
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2022, 10:03:37 AM »
The engine does not accelerate and does not slow down when it is under load.

FAKE !  hidden wires.


Offline citfta

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Re: Liberty engine..
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2022, 01:11:58 PM »
OK, thanks..

  Sorry I don't see that cable you say is there at 4:02 hartiberlin..

And this video shows him picking it up and walking around at 15:45..  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhRPYG7HeSw

I wish I could find someone who built one that didn't work, so I could stop wondering..


Hi Rebar,


That last video is very convincing.  Especially when he picks it up and walks around with it running.  Except if you know anything about video editing you know how easy it is to fake something like this.  There are tools for video editing that let you select an object in a video like a wire and use the tool to make it look just like the background it is in front of.  In other words make the object disappear.  What you also have to know is that the person making the video can set it up with YouTube so that they get paid a small amount for each time someone watches their video.  Multiply that small amount times the large number of people watching the video and the maker can get a fair amount of money from people watching a fake video.


From the technical side of the demo there is the problem of frequency.  AC motors operate or rotate at a speed determined by the frequency of the AC power coming to them.  So what ever the speed he gets the alternator spinning at will determine the frequency of the power going to the motor and so the motor speed will be determined by how fast he got the alternator turning.  I find it very hard to believe that he is able to consistently spin that alternator using a string to get it to spin at just the right speed so that the frequency comes out to be exactly 60 Hz.


Respectfully,
Carroll

Offline Feb2006

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Re: Liberty engine..
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2022, 03:03:13 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un6E79CzMbI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIed-l-U7NQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbdU7AkH6QM&t=1242s



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and all of the people some of the time,
but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.”


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Re: Liberty engine..
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2022, 11:30:57 PM »
Two points.
1. the auto radiator fan motors have 2 ceramic magnets in them.
2. My electric bike motor has neos all around the outside stator.

My thinking is that the magnets provide part of the power and thus saving the loss of powering two coils. My guess might be 30-40% but not 50%.

Any thoughts on what those magnets really do?

Norman

Offline aussiebattler

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Re: Liberty engine..
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2022, 11:28:03 AM »
I would suggest an investigative survey of the relationship between the number of poles and speed and frequency of an AC alternator and see if you come up with anything fishy .

Offline citfta

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Re: Liberty engine..
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2022, 12:50:31 PM »
Two points.
1. the auto radiator fan motors have 2 ceramic magnets in them.
2. My electric bike motor has neos all around the outside stator.

My thinking is that the magnets provide part of the power and thus saving the loss of powering two coils. My guess might be 30-40% but not 50%.

Any thoughts on what those magnets really do?

Norman


Hi Norman,


The radiator fan motor is just a normal DC motor that has the field coils replace with permanent magnets.  Those kinds of motor are commonly used in industry.  And as you suggested they are more efficient because no current is needed to power the fields.


Your bike motor is a 3 phase motor that also uses permanent magnets to replace the fields.  You have a speed controller that controls the pulses to the drive coils and the speed of switching determines the speed of the motor.  Those type of motors are also commonly used.  You see a lot of them in RC airplanes and also in industry.  And again the magnets make for a more powerful and efficient motor.  Some of the motors used in RC airplanes can fit in the palm of your hand and any yet produce 1 HP of power.  Amazing little motors.


Take care,
Carroll