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Title: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: e2matrix on June 27, 2022, 08:27:39 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqbJWBtoFMQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqbJWBtoFMQ)
Interesting video.  Inventor has gone to great lengths to insure all details of his work are released far and wide if anything happens to him or his finances.   He has built some large and extensive devices.   While this inventor is not new to having discussion about his work here is it possible this is something new he has?
What do you think?
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: ramset on June 27, 2022, 06:10:36 PM
Hopefully the discovery is inline with original concept,which was quite basic as mentioned
Beginning At 3min 20 sec mark of video!
Reposted here


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wqbJWBtoFMQ (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wqbJWBtoFMQ)


Would be amazing,
I just hope it has not been made proprietary ( out of reach to most ?)
By some nano “this or that tech”??


Obviously if it runs with Gain …autonomously..? it would seem a miraculous invention!
Regardless
The need is too great to delay !!


Thanks for the news
Respectfully
Chet K


Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: memoryman on June 28, 2022, 09:41:14 PM
Wayne has nothing. There is NOTHING commercially available based on his 'effect'.
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: oouthere on June 29, 2022, 03:03:05 AM
I don't think it works as he showed.  IMO, if he'd have pumped the air slower it would have had time to stabilize between the two cups and they would have lifted about the same time.  Him pumping quickly caused the air transfer as it happened.  I don't think it will work if this is the basic operating principal.
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: ramset on July 25, 2022, 03:11:15 AM
An update
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uTbIJnEOw8Y (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uTbIJnEOw8Y)


Respectfully submitted
Chet K
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: ramset on July 25, 2022, 05:40:07 PM
Sorry for double post (not just adding to above comment)
It timed out .
 I checked through my contacts and Wayne did
Offer open invitation to his place in USA Oklahoma to witness tech !


Going to follow through on that and see if science team
can still See working technology there ?
Yes it is open source “team”
However just a proof it does what is claimed is all that would need to happen ( my opinion at this time)
  If not maybe Stefan or ? Could visit German facility?


After all this claim is impossible by today’s science!
And should open investigations into many other possibilities if accurate!


Respectfully
Chet K
Ps
Here a snip from Wayne
Quote



Wayne Travis 1 day ago ( explaining workings)
1. the teeter totter is the input cost, there is no pumping of air - the air moved because the pressure between the two sides reverse when the teeter totter changes the head pressure.
 2. The cost to move the teeter totter is 50% less than the work out due to the design - specifically where the air volume is reduced by the Travis Effect - less volume to lift - also means less work to sink (50% less in this design).
 3. The over 100% value - If I plugged the machine in the wall to drive the teeter totter, it would "appear" to by 200% efficient - because 50KW in produces 100kw out. - but that is an error in interpretation because a "Base Line" is not considered.
3.b  it is part of our physics 'new' discovery is the ability to do work at a cost "below the gravitational standard" and that provable fact is a why our system is real - its a new scope of physics but very very simple to test and verify.
3.C The 100KW is produced is at gravitational  standard - the energy available to leave the machine with each totter - is directly proportional to the "cost reduction" to that the standard- Our system is not a "gain" (even though to the observer - it will look like a gain, feel like a gain, and appear to be a gain - it is a remainder, available at every stroke).
 3.D The Travis Effect discovery creates the first known opportunity to design a 10-5=5 system (a remainder system) - not a 10-10=5 which would be over unity or 150%.
3. E Why has energy creation been impossible till now - its the way students were taught - a single focus - In the equation in put / output - the only consideration in physics has been the  output side - some magical gain- my discovery worked on the input side - cost reduction - which is a game changer. Likely a Nobel prize. Hope that helps - and side note - I have since discovered 4 other ways to effect the input to cause a remainder... we love it, the worlds going to change for the better - abundance! Wayne
End quote
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: Jimboot on July 26, 2022, 10:08:18 AM
Old channel here. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgcpOIwaOtRf37y9hBwuefg
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: ramset on July 27, 2022, 12:10:45 AM
Jim
Thanks
Talking to a few members about a visit!


Chet
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: Jimboot on July 27, 2022, 02:42:43 AM



https://patents.google.com/patent/US20210207572A1/en
"                                   Buoyant counterbalance system and method for using same 
 
   
Abstract   
 
A buoyant counterbalance system and method for using same utilizing a pair of units in fluid communication with each other. Each unit including a tank configured to slidably receive a production ram slidably. A displacement member in a fixed position in relation to the tank and production ram. The displacement member located in the production ram, and defining a first channel including a first piston, and a second channel in communication with an interior of the production ram. A hollow pedestal connected to both of the displacement members, and is configured to communicate a fluid between them. A production line connects to a first side each of the pistons."
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: plengo on July 28, 2022, 05:00:01 AM
Extremelly interesting finding, the Trevis Effect.


As i watch the videos what comes to my mind all the time is 'capillary action', like an echo of sorts.


This discovery is incredible in so many levels in my opinion, it is so intertwined with my CCs.
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: Jimboot on July 28, 2022, 07:26:34 AM
This channel did some good demos 10 years ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHbP3QTncBY I wonder if Tom is still around. Also Wayne has been in the comments on Marcus Nennings vids and he has been answering questions.
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: memoryman on July 28, 2022, 01:42:11 PM
Actually, Wayne doesn't answer the questions that I asked: where does the extra energy com from. He replies with nonsense
There IS NO TRAVIS EFFECT.
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: ramset on July 28, 2022, 03:47:23 PM
Seeing is believing


And yes a gravity powered FE device
Which makes more power that that which is required
To cycle it?
IMPOSSIBLE!!


I suppose when someone says it runs on gravity


And you don’t realize he answered you ?


We shall see ,hopefully a visit next Month
Respectfully
Chet K
Ps
Please don’t reboot the obvious issues from the past   !
 Here we have units coming to market in Germany.
And an open invitation to see the
Main gain mechanism in USA !


Scientists will be involved!
Physicists and others.
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: memoryman on July 28, 2022, 03:57:39 PM
I talked to one person who spent several days (along with Mark Dansie); they saw nothing to back Wayne's claims.
There is NO gravity powered free energy device anywhere.
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: ramset on July 29, 2022, 03:49:41 PM
Yes I called Mark a little while ago


Making a few more calls ,
Unless there is a unit demonstrating even one part of the claim ( to measure)
Nobody will be going to visit!
Gravity “batteries” have been around since our planet started storing water
 and men Took advantage!
However !!
A gravity generator …
That’s an entirely different animal!
We shall see ?
Respectfully
Chet K
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: onepower on July 29, 2022, 08:11:34 PM
Ramset
Quote
And yes a gravity powered FE device
Which makes more power that that which is required
To cycle it?
IMPOSSIBLE!!

I think we need to be more specific and in context...

The evaporation of water on Earth lifts 17 million cubic meters per second which then falls due to gravity as rain. This is an evaporation/gravity powered phenomena which is responsible for all hydro power on the planet supplying around 4.3 petawatt hours of energy. We did not create this energy the Sun did so in effect it is a form of free solar/gravity energy.

In fact many in the past supposed rain and the water cycle was magic because they didn't understand how it worked. For similar reasons many today cannot understand how free energy devices could work. Apparently every generation thinks they have everything figured out and there generally always proven wrong.

As Mark Twain said..."It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so."

Regards
AC
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: Paul-R on July 29, 2022, 09:37:22 PM
I found three patents of his on the USPTO list:
9,574,5779,297,3538,887,497https://www.pat2pdf.org/
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: Tarsier_79 on July 30, 2022, 12:43:10 PM
The "travis effecct" is not new or original. It is no different to "floating a ship in a bathtub of water".

At no time in both videos listed did I see any vestige of hope of "free energy". All examples shown and explained were flawed... bringing a rock back from the moon: give me a break. The Travis effect demonstration: How much energy does it take to pump water against hydrostatic pressure to that depth in the first place? There is a difference between efficient and OU.

And this is why this device is BS: In the picture below, the top hydraulic actuator has collected the energy. Now we are expected to believe that the buoyant container on the right takes little energy to pull to the bottom of the tank. I can tell you how much energy that requires....more than you get from the same buoyant force pushing a ram 1/2 of the distance at the top.
 
Can we try to get around this fatal flaw?... Gravity is a harsh mistress. There is no free ride. This design is not OU.
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: mrwayne on July 31, 2022, 10:33:39 AM
Hello OverUnity Crowd,


Ten Years ago I discovered the Travis Effect - I have since fought and won against the FBI, and the State Administration (ODS) - who both claimed I was a fraud - for claiming the discovery of Free Energy - they both ate those words - and I won both cases.


The State pretends they won a victory because i was ordered to repay my friends and family who had helped me - our of 250 supporting families - 27 left.


The Markus Nenning Video's you have mentioned in this thread are very simple, and even if you spread sheet the video - you will find it generated energy very powerfully. The Cartoon will show about 145% efficient and the optimized will show up to 198% - because the input is just about nearly half the output.
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Here is one of your own's Spread sheets - have fun!


Wayne Travis
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: mrwayne on July 31, 2022, 10:38:17 AM
The "travis effecct" is not new or original. It is no different to "floating a ship in a bathtub of water".



The Travis effect does not operate like a ship floating - it Travis Effect interacts with a volume displacer "internally" - and if that "volume displacer" is attached or not changes the buoyant value - the difference between those two states of buoyancy determines the free energy that is available - thanks for your input.


All it took was a simple clever way to alternate between states of force - smile


MrWayne
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: mrwayne on July 31, 2022, 10:43:41 AM
The need is too great to delay !!


Thanks for the news
Respectfully
Chet K


It has been delayed Tem Years - and need not be delayed any longer - I closed looped in 2010 - but this design - is powerful, scalable, ecnomical, and requires nothing complex - watch Markus' second video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTbIJnEOw8Y&lc=UgzZVZ2Yld1XqiS7BbB4AaABAg.9dnMD1elZwd9dnSPWu-6sX


It really is this easy.


We need people demanding it - the government is still trying to block me, make your own. But if you want to sell them - talk to me so I can make it legal.


Mr Wayne

Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: Paul-R on July 31, 2022, 11:01:50 AM
I found three patents of his on the USPTO list:
9,574,5779,297,3538,887,497
https://www.pat2pdf.org/ (https://www.pat2pdf.org/)
i.e.:

9,574,577 --- 9,297,353 --- 8,887,497
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: mrwayne on July 31, 2022, 11:14:10 AM
Paul, I am patented internationally - over $200K in patents and fee's - but anyone who wants to build one for themselves - need only ask - I will help them.


Markus' video reduces the process of generating energy into its most simple fundamentals.


Ten years ago - everyone focused on analyzing a single side - and never figured it out - Larry focused on the whole system - yet it was too complex then. Now - it is simple - and it takes four functions + a capture and conversion process:


1. Using the more powerful Travis Effect buoyancy for output
2. Sinking at the standard Archimedes' buoyancy
3. A method to switch between the two states of buoyancy
4  A method is eliminate an air compressor


After that - capture and direct - easy peasy..


Mr Wayne
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: Paul-R on July 31, 2022, 11:17:53 AM
Paul, I am patented internationally - over $200K in patents and fee's - but anyone who wants to build one for themselves - need only ask - I will help them.

Yes, I'm sure. But patents can be a very neat and compact resource. - You will have put a lot of work into making them so.
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: mrwayne on July 31, 2022, 11:33:05 AM
Yes we did, but we also did not explain - ratio's, Ideal set ups, and limitations.


Thanks


Mr. Wayne
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: Tarsier_79 on July 31, 2022, 02:11:07 PM
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Ten Years ago I discovered the Travis Effect -

And presumptuous of you to name something after yourself that you did not discover... One of my pet hates.


Let us do some hll-billy math with some graph paper on the "cartoon" that is apparently 145% efficient:

By my calculations in this scale:

The power stroke is determined by the effective buoyancy of the container: 20 x 21 units x stroke of 7 units = 2940.

The actual buoyancy is determined by the actual air in the top container: 20 x 8 +16 =186

For reset we need to pull the buoyant load down 22 units: 186 x 22 = 4092.

That gives us an efficiency of (work output/work input x 100) 71.84%

So what am I missing?

Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: memoryman on July 31, 2022, 02:47:51 PM
"Ten Years ago I discovered the Travis Effect -" and still can't explain in ENERGY terms why it is (supposedly) OU.
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: mrwayne on July 31, 2022, 08:11:50 PM
Wayne has nothing. There is NOTHING commercially available based on his 'effect'.


p.s. the Travis Effect creates the opportunity for a asymmetrical system... Love it.
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: mrwayne on July 31, 2022, 08:20:30 PM
And presumptuous of you to name something after yourself that you did not discover... One of my pet hates.


Let us do some hll-billy math with some graph paper on the "cartoon" that is apparently 145% efficient:

By my calculations in this scale:

The power stroke is determined by the effective buoyancy of the container: 20 x 21 units x stroke of 7 units = 2940.

The actual buoyancy is determined by the actual air in the top container: 20 x 8 +16 =186

For reset we need to pull the buoyant load down 22 units: 186 x 22 = 4092.

That gives us an efficiency of (work output/work input x 100) 71.84%

So what am I missing?


Yeah - it would have been rude of me to name the discovery after myself - good thing that I did not. Thanks for noticing my non presumptive and non assuming position.


I attached a spread sheet earlier - your doing your buoyancy calcs wrong - as in the Travis Effect - is the effect of reducing volume required to do lift. We use that advantage during work out and then standard buoyancy on the way down.


Take a good look at the spreadsheets - they were done independently, and notice that pressure times surface areas is used.


Watch Markus Nennings two you tube videos - he will explain.


Thanks Wayne






Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: mrwayne on July 31, 2022, 08:25:23 PM
"Ten Years ago I discovered the Travis Effect -" and still can't explain in ENERGY terms why it is (supposedly) OU.


Oh yes I can - "Less input for standardized work"...Boom - its that easy... Say it over and over until is in your memory.. pun fun..


Thanks Mr Wayne
 

Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: Tarsier_79 on July 31, 2022, 08:59:47 PM
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Yeah - it would have been rude of me to name the discovery after myself - good thing that I did not. Thanks for noticing my non presumptive and non assuming position.

Like I said: you didn't actually discover anything. The Spiteri pump (also not OU) predates your "discovery", uses the same underlying principle, and is much more efficient. There are also drawings Bessler did 300 years ago using the same principle, again not OU. When I first stumbled across it it 04, I phoned my wife at work and told her I discovered PM. I then calculated input and output and realised my mistake before she arrived home.


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I attached a spread sheet earlier - your doing your buoyancy calcs wrong - as in the Travis Effect - is the effect of reducing volume required to do lift. We use that advantage during work out and then standard buoyancy on the way down.

No sh#t. That is exactly how I calculated the lift and the standard buoyancy drop. You are just upset I calculated them in a way a primary school kid could understand when you spent all that time over-engineering a solution to try to complicates it as much as possible.

No matter how you arrange it, you will never get over-unity out of your design. At best you might approach unity in a cartoon drawing. I feel sorry for anyone who is fooled by your design and invests any money with you. You should be charged with fraud.
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: Tarsier_79 on July 31, 2022, 09:28:55 PM
Here I have attached an updated drawing showing the dimensions used, for anyone wishing to do the calcs themselves.

I realised I didn't account for the positive buoyancy for the mostly empty container on the left. It still won't be the game changer. This design will never be OU. Any leverage tricks you try to use won't fool gravity.
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: mrwayne on July 31, 2022, 09:43:04 PM
Like I said: you didn't actually discover anything. The Spiteri pump (also not OU) predates your "discovery", uses the same underlying principle, and is much more efficient. There are also drawings Bessler did 300 years ago using the same principle, again not OU. When I first stumbled across it it 04, I phoned my wife at work and told her I discovered PM. I then calculated input and output and realised my mistake before she arrived home.


No sh#t. That is exactly how I calculated the lift and the standard buoyancy drop. You are just upset I calculated them in a way a primary school kid could understand when you spent all that time over-engineering a solution to try to complicates it as much as possible.

No matter how you arrange it, you will never get over-unity out of your design. At best you might approach unity in a cartoon drawing. I feel sorry for anyone who is fooled by your design and invests any money with you. You should be charged with fraud.


Sorry for your hardships, and your opinions are noted - but your understanding is lacking. Try harder..Thanks
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: mrwayne on July 31, 2022, 09:47:17 PM
Here I have attached an updated drawing showing the dimensions used, for anyone wishing to do the calcs themselves.

I realised I didn't account for the positive buoyancy for the mostly empty container on the left. It still won't be the game changer. This design will never be OU. Any leverage tricks you try to use won't fool gravity.


p.s. the inner containers are filled with water.... The inner container switches from neutral to Weight depending on the air surrounding or not surrounding it - Now - if you can, calculate that weight shift into he operation and then update the team - it is already in the spread sheet I gave you -  Thanks! Wayne
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: memoryman on July 31, 2022, 10:26:13 PM
Here is the definition of 'work' in physics:
"work, in physics, measure of energy transfer that occurs when an object is moved over a distance by an external force at least part of which is applied in the direction of the displacement.
Work is NOT conserved; energy IS."
Total the energy in the system at the start (make sure the system is closed), all the energy going in your system, the energy out the system and the remaining energy in the system. Explain any 'surplus'.
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: mrwayne on July 31, 2022, 11:01:08 PM
Here is the definition of 'work' in physics:
"work, in physics, measure of energy transfer that occurs when an object is moved over a distance by an external force at least part of which is applied in the direction of the displacement.
Work is NOT conserved; energy IS."
Total the energy in the system at the start (make sure the system is closed), all the energy going in your system, the energy out the system and the remaining energy in the system. Explain any 'surplus'.


I honestly don't care what you call it - the work from this closed looped machine makes electricity available at no cost to anyone or anything. Period.


Looking for a source of the surplus is your error (typical of people schooled in conversion and consumption and lacking in asymmetric systems).


An "unequal work process" or a "asymmetric work system" has a "caused remainder" not a sourced conversion - Yes - this is Nobel prize worthy knowledge.


SO - my technology proves that there exists two scopes of physics - consumption and conversion, and work differential systems - you will be comforted to know that most of the physics over lap - and you just have to grasp a few more laws to understand the difference.


 Thanks Mr Wayne

Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: Tarsier_79 on July 31, 2022, 11:13:49 PM
Oh I understand the system perfectly.

If your system worked, it could be easily simplified using standard plumbing equipment, not requiring any hydraulics or microcontrollers. It is you who don't understand your own design.

It is a pity this field contains charlatans like you MrWayne. Scammers like you give the hard working people, like most on this forum truly trying to find OU a bad name.

Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: Jimboot on July 31, 2022, 11:19:24 PM
Thanks Wayne I appreciate you sharing . Very interesting. I thought Marcus videos were a lot fun and the effect is intriguing
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: Tarsier_79 on July 31, 2022, 11:19:45 PM
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p.s. the inner containers are filled with water.... The inner container switches from neutral to Weight depending on the air surrounding or not surrounding it - Now - if you can, calculate that weight shift into he operation and then update the team - it is already in the spread sheet I gave you -  Thanks! Wayne

Once again you show your ignorance of the physics behind displacement. It doesn't matter if the inner containers are filled with air, water or lead.
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: memoryman on July 31, 2022, 11:23:44 PM
" it is already in the spread sheet I gave you " yes, the spreadsheet: Garbage in-garbage out. Reminds me of Elon Musk's 'white papers".
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: mrwayne on July 31, 2022, 11:31:09 PM
Oh I understand the system perfectly.

If your system worked, it could be easily simplified using standard plumbing equipment, not requiring any hydraulics or microcontrollers. It is you who don't understand your own design.

It is a pity this field contains charlatans like you MrWayne. Scammers like you give the hard working people, like most on this forum truly trying to find OU a bad name.


Lol I don't get upset by people with no manners - because you throw away your respectability.


Take care
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: mrwayne on July 31, 2022, 11:36:51 PM
Thanks Wayne I appreciate you sharing . Very interesting. I thought Marcus videos were a lot fun and the effect is intriguing


Thank You Jim,


Markus did a great job, he is amazing! His modeling of the travis effect was a mistake - here is a link to the original video by Tom.


Travis Effect 5


 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW0LKPM0Tvk


Thats my channel if you want to watch all five Videos Tom made.


Wayne







Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: mrwayne on July 31, 2022, 11:42:36 PM
" it is already in the spread sheet I gave you " yes, the spreadsheet: Garbage in-garbage out. Reminds me of Elon Musk's 'white papers".


Use questions when you don't understand, and you will learn more.



Its ok if its hard to grasp - better people than you and I struggled over it.. that may be why something so simple was so hard to discover.


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Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: mrwayne on July 31, 2022, 11:47:38 PM
Once again you show your ignorance of the physics behind displacement. It doesn't matter if the inner containers are filled with air, water or lead.


I am sorry if this sounds rough - but it does matter - if the inner and outer are connected - its your demonstrated lack of experience with buoyancy that is confusing you - try to be a bit more patient, you are learning new things.


When connected - the water weight cancels a portion of the buoyancy - BOOM, that portion of the buoyancy is directly the cause of the work difference - Ka Boom.


So look closer at the video - and find the connection point - and redo your work.


Mr Wayne
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: mrwayne on August 01, 2022, 12:02:09 AM
So for those of you who have been following - a couple of critics here just revealed why my system has a work difference - Now they don't get it yet - but they will.


When the one side is being pulled down - its buoyancy is "the actual air volume" value of buoyancy - and this is the input cost (sinking a buoyant object a distance).


Now this sinking action positions the other side in the Initial Travis Effect position - and as everyone should d know by now - the Travis effect is special for the fact that the buoyancy work exceeds the air volume required.


Work in - standard buoyancy, work out exceeds standard buoyancy.


The clever part is how the "work in" also eliminates an air transfer cost.


Thanks for checking it out.


Mr Wayne


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Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: Jimboot on August 01, 2022, 12:09:07 AM

Thank You Jim,


Markus did a great job, he is amazing! His modeling of the travis effect was a mistake - here is a link to the original video by Tom.


Travis Effect 5


 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW0LKPM0Tvk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW0LKPM0Tvk)


Thats my channel if you want to watch all five Videos Tom made.


Wayne
id already found them thanks. Subscribed to the old channel and the fresh one :)
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: mrwayne on August 01, 2022, 12:10:59 AM
id already found them thanks. Subscribed to the old channel and the fresh one :)


I wish I could find the old channel lol


Wayne
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: Jimboot on August 01, 2022, 12:28:49 AM

I wish I could find the old channel lol


Wayne
I thought it was this one. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgcpOIwaOtRf37y9hBwuefg
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: mrwayne on August 01, 2022, 12:50:40 AM
I thought it was this one. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgcpOIwaOtRf37y9hBwuefg (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgcpOIwaOtRf37y9hBwuefg)


Thats It! Thanks
 
I will see if I can reset my password... Thanks again!


Wayne
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: Tarsier_79 on August 01, 2022, 12:01:33 PM
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I am sorry if this sounds rough - but it does matter - if the inner and outer are connected - its your demonstrated lack of experience with buoyancy that is confusing you - try to be a bit more patient, you are learning new things.

(slaps hand to forehead). Buoyancy is determined by total volume and total weight. The weight on the left is the same as the weight on the right. Buoyancy doesn't care that the weight on the right is not fully submerged. Due to the fact that the outer container is fixed at this time to the inner container, buoyancy only cares about the total mass and the total volume. The difference between the left and right is only the difference of volume in the outer container. So in magical cartoon world with 0 frictions, the lifting weight cancels the falling weight, regardless of what that is.

The only thing I am learning is just how little you understand your own design.

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So for those of you who have been following - a couple of critics here just revealed why my system has a work difference - Now they don't get it yet - but they will.
When the one side is being pulled down - its buoyancy is "the actual air volume" value of buoyancy - and this is the input cost (sinking a buoyant object a distance).
Now this sinking action positions the other side in the Initial Travis Effect position - and as everyone should d know by now - the Travis effect is special for the fact that the buoyancy work exceeds the air volume required.

Work = Force x distance.

firstly, I would like to admit my mistake. No-one picked me up on it, but a self sanity check did. So here is the sanity check: eyeballling the setup, we have approx half the volume pulled down twice the distance, compared to an "effective" twice volume moving over half the distance. So in cartoon land, we have something like a unity transaction, if you look at this single image (cartoon1) It appears like the output looks slightly OU....but when you examine the movement of the air transfer, it is soon apparent the power stroke is less than the calculated 21 x 20. This can be seen in the "cartoon3" image where the air is not pumped as low down in the container due to container positioning at the start. This increases through the movement.

The upshot is my original calculated 76% is incorrect. my mistake was using a buoyancy pulldown of 21 in stead of 14.  In cartoon land, the actual work in vs work out = unity.








Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: mrwayne on August 01, 2022, 12:32:43 PM

Thanks for trying again, you get closer each time.


Let me first say the "ideal" set up is in the spread sheet - which is near 200%


The cartoon depiction you are referencing is [size=78%]147%[/size]


The outer container - of the Travis effect is called a Riser - it does in fact travel twice the distance of the Inner displacer called a Pod.


Important helpful note - half of the riser movement is caused by the air transferring due to air seeking its lower pressure.  It was paid for with the same cost of lowering the pod and riser.


A bit more knowledge for you:

Buoyancy is a "result" of "pressure differential times the Surface area" which is not a new understanding - but until the Travis Effect discovery - volume was sufficient to determine lift.


Once it was discovered that the volume was not always predictive of lift in every scenario and design - a more in depth (pun) understanding and method of prediction is required.


Notice how difficult it has been for you to grasp the function - as you tried to stick with volume. one of the reasons this simple energy generation was not discovered sooner.


What you will discover, if you study the process closer, is that When a liquid is displaced, four potentials are created - not just buoyancy:
 
Compressed air
Raised Water
and lift potential
Downward force on the tank
   
Add clever design,
such as the pod switching from being a weight to being neutrally buoyant
Moving air as a secondary reaction to another work (which means unpaid for)
Adding complexion a systems to "increase efficiency" as the free moving air proves.



All of these aspects are important, as they are simple reactions which when controlled in such a manner to create an asymmetrical work process proves free energy, or caused energy is completely and simple possible.


Thank you all.


Mr Wayne


 
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: citfta on August 01, 2022, 12:52:18 PM
(slaps hand to forehead). Buoyancy is determined by total volume and total weight. The weight on the left is the same as the weight on the right. Buoyancy doesn't care that the weight on the right is not fully submerged.


The statement I highlighted is incorrect.  Bouyancy is also determined by how much of the object is submerged.  That is the part you are missing.  Try to push a cork underwater.  As you try to push it down the bouyancy increases.  Or try to lift a neutral bouyant object.out of the water. As soon as you start to lift it out of the water you will see that it gets much heavier.


Respectfully,
Carroll
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: mrwayne on August 01, 2022, 03:48:02 PM
Ok, Overunity,


A bit of back story - I observed the Opportunity to exploit "under Input" in 2008 - In fact every single system I built, using that method conformed to standard physics - pay less than ideal cost - subtract losses and you have a "Remainder".


p.s. I built over 40 different types - 1/3 of those models used the Travis Effect, 1/3 used the Concentration of head or mass, and 1/3 used the COTI Method (which is an admixture process where the design counter acts the Primary work and utilize the secondary).  [size=78%] [/size]


All of them had different scientific discoveries, and all of them caused a remainder. The Model I shared is the least mentally complicated of all, which is why I selected to share it. The dual System will max out at 200% but a quad system will max out at 400% and so on, a 4 pair system will max at 800% Because the cost reduction is additive.




I know it looks exactly like Over Unity, as in the end result of Under Input is the same thing as a Over unity device would have - so for the sake of avoiding an argument on the real deep physics, I will go with the Term Over unity - since to most that really just means some form of free energy.


I have spent 12 Years full time studying the science and mapping the New Laws which govern the discovery, and the new physics and i have at least 5 Nobel prize worthy - improvements to physics, all of which benefit mankind. 


But most of the world is like MemoryMan, and the other guy, who attack and slander what they don't understand, Of my 12 years working on the science, I have a total of 9 years being attacked by the US Government - FBI and State Securities, get this, they had no victims and no crime - just an outside complainer saying "EVERYONE KNOWS THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE",


Yes, I won both cases - but the point wasn't to convict me - neither had any evidence what so ever of wrong doing... What they did was try to slander me - just to slow or to prevent progress and that worked - my first closed looped system was in 2010. Think on how much waste and time has been lost, how much benefit has been prevented..


I invited Markus, who is an engineer, and does media as a hobby, to make a few videos, his next video is on why I am patented internationally and how that allows me to authorize partnerships world wide, and how that will work. Hint its designed to empower builders around the world.


The Spread sheet is from a member of this forum, sharp man.


So - here is the way the World works - "Disinformation" I mentioned those two you tube videos Markus produced - they wont show up in any searches - unless you know Markus, but 500 phony free energy machines will, and 25 debunkers, and an uncountable number of people who call free energy Stupid.
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Now, Why I post here - the Model I showed is so simple, and is undebunkable -and part two - I am looking for some good research writer or university to share the 12 years of knowledge with - to be published. Honestly I don't care if you take credit - as long as I and my team are mentioned as contributors..


I will advise you, we already have a lot in the works - so  "Net flix" type series, three stages of funding lined out, over 500 high energy consumers, LOI s from several Unities and more designs being built.


My Email is traviseffect@protonmail.com


Sincerely,
MrWayne

Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: Tarsier_79 on August 01, 2022, 09:40:41 PM
Hi Carroll

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Bouyancy is also determined by how much of the object is submerged.   
Correct.

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Try to push a cork underwater.  As you try to push it down the bouyancy increases.  Or try to lift a neutral bouyant object.out of the water. As soon as you start to lift it out of the water you will see that it gets much heavier.
Correct

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That is the part you are missing.
I am not missing anything. Look at the diagram. The weight is essentially in a container of air, and all of the container is submerged. Its buoyancy is determined by its displacement and weight. The volume of the weight still displaces the same volume of water, even if it is in the container, and the remainder is displaced by the air.
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: Tarsier_79 on August 01, 2022, 10:09:42 PM
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Thanks for trying again, you get closer each time.

I am already the closest to the correct answer. The answer is: in an ideal world this system is designed to be as efficient as possible, and closes in on 100%. In the real world you will experience massive frictions and losses in your moving parts + powering your actuators.

It is your understanding that is flawed. Your spreadsheet is incorrect. Your physical design is inherently inefficient. Any device you build based on this will not produce OU. Any money investors give you will be as if they had tossed it into the wind. (Just like my time here arguing with you.)

I have given enough of my time on this stupidity. I will happily help anyone understand why your design doesn't work if they ask though.

Time will show your design for what it truly is......worthless.

What I haven't figured out yet:  if you are just unable to grasp the true physics behind your flawed design, or if you are a very skilled con artist.
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: codwell on August 01, 2022, 10:51:09 PM
I wanted to try to find an even simpler model what Mr. Wayne showed to us, and I think I did. Anyone please correct my calculations if it's wrong. The model comprises of 2 containers with 2 bouyant objects (volume of 1 unit each), 2 containers (volume of 2 units each), opened on the top to let the air in. Theoretical maximum dimensions are used for calculations for the bouyant object.

1. Initial state: left container in this state is considered weightless, right containers contains 0.5 unit of water
2. Right container is lifted up 1 unit with 0.5 unit of effective weight (water):
W = F x s = 0.5 x 1 = 0.5 (input work)
3. Containers are connected, water will level out, left bouyant object rises 0.5 units
with 1 unit of force
W = F x s = 1 x 0.5 = 0.5 (output work)
4. Right container falls (considered weightless), cycle starts again with the other container creating output

Right here input and output seems to be equal, but in step 3 there’s some work done by the water flow, and it can be harnessed if containers are connected while the container is lifted in step 2.
Then the weight is decreasing while the container is lifted, the function is linear, the weight goes from 0.5 → 0.0, the average is 0.25, with this W = 0.25 (input).
This is the same work when the 0.5 weight water falls down 0.5 unit. System efficiency changes to 200% excluding any losses.

This is the same figure as Mr. Wayne stated. Where is my calculation wrong? If this is not OU, then it should be a theoretical 100% excluding the losses, and not 200%.
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: mrwayne on August 01, 2022, 11:32:44 PM
I am already the closest to the correct answer. The answer is: in an ideal world this system is designed to be as efficient as possible, and closes in on 100%. In the real world you will experience massive frictions and losses in your moving parts + powering your actuators.

It is your understanding that is flawed. Your spreadsheet is incorrect. Your physical design is inherently inefficient. Any device you build based on this will not produce OU. Any money investors give you will be as if they had tossed it into the wind. (Just like my time here arguing with you.)

I have given enough of my time on this stupidity. I will happily help anyone understand why your design doesn't work if they ask though.

Time will show your design for what it truly is......worthless.

What I haven't figured out yet:  if you are just unable to grasp the true physics behind your flawed design, or if you are a very skilled con artist.


Dear Friend, the one thing you forget in all of your effort - I build and test every design. Thanks Wayne
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: Tarsier_79 on August 02, 2022, 10:46:08 AM
Hi Codwell

The buoyant object is weightless? Why is the water lifting to the top of it? What is the value add of the buoyant object in this case? is the buoyant object locked in place so it doesn't float on top of the water?

Just trying to understand before I look at the math.
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: codwell on August 02, 2022, 02:12:01 PM
I wanted to illustrate that the bouyant object is a bit smaller than the container in practice, so it can freely move inside it, it can be surrounded by water so it can be lifted up by water flowing inside the container. The work from this lift could be harnessed the same way as it's in Mr. Wayne's animation, with a hidraulic cylinder for example. In real world the object would rise above the water level (think of a balloon on water), but you can only calculate with the work easily while it's submerged in water completely. Think of it like the hidraulic cylinder stops it right there in the upper position and doesn't allow to raise out more from water.
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: broli on August 02, 2022, 03:54:11 PM
I wanted to illustrate that the bouyant object is a bit smaller than the container in practice, so it can freely move inside it, it can be surrounded by water so it can be lifted up by water flowing inside the container. The work from this lift could be harnessed the same way as it's in Mr. Wayne's animation, with a hidraulic cylinder for example. In real world the object would rise above the water level (think of a balloon on water), but you can only calculate with the work easily while it's submerged in water completely. Think of it like the hidraulic cylinder stops it right there in the upper position and doesn't allow to raise out more from water.


If you compare 2 and 4 your whole system actually lost half a unit in total height (potential energy) so input is not equal to output work and there was an energy loss. This loss of potential energy is due to the kinetic energy gain of water flow between the containers in step 3. I don't believe this is what Wayne is saying.
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: mrwayne on August 02, 2022, 04:44:08 PM
Enjoy


Simplified



Mr Wayne
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: codwell on August 02, 2022, 04:44:29 PM
If you continue with connecting the containers in step 4, you get same energy from bouyancy as in step 3. After this you get back the exact same state as in step 1. This is actually one whole cycle with this 5th step, I should have created the figures like that. Than you end up with even more energy: 2x0.5 unit of output by bouyancy, 1x0.25 unit of input by raising the right container (water) once in 1 cycle, this is a theoretical maximum of 400% . Again, please correct me if this is wrong, but I don't see any errors in the calculation. Please note that for the sake of simplicity the left container doesn't move at all, only the right one is moved once in the cycle. I put a red helper line to show the level differences of the container bases.
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: broli on August 02, 2022, 06:09:17 PM
You're better off partnering with a Chinese company to produce toy desktop versions of the idea that might flip flop endlessly and cause a viral phenomena on social media rather than trying to convince the world that buoyancy has hidden features by building mega constructions to prove it. Surely after 10 years, the numerous lawsuits and FBI investigations you realize that at this point it's better to have something out than nothing at all.
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: codwell on August 02, 2022, 06:23:10 PM
This seems like such a gadget to me. Question is if this version is able to self run? I don't see why it wouldn't self run at least in small scale if it produces excess energy in large scale as he states.

https://youtu.be/wqbJWBtoFMQ?t=356
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: mrwayne on August 02, 2022, 07:03:05 PM
Have you solved the first one presented on this thread?



Thanks


Mr. Wayne
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: Tarsier_79 on August 03, 2022, 08:36:37 AM
Hi Codwell

Lets pretend for a start you close a valve, then move your container, reopen for water movement.

Your input is the mass of the water, #1-#2, lifting 1 unit. 0.5 x 1 = 0.5

We have an output #2-#3 The water drops half a unit. 0.5 x 0.5 = 0.25

We have a theoretical nil transaction #3-#4, A weightless empty container drops half a unit.

We have a second output #4-#5 Water drops half a unit 0.5 x 0.5 = 0.25.

Seems like unity to me.

Lets consider the effect Wayne is trying to use in your diagram:

#2-#3  Here the buoyant object on the left of 1 unit rises 0.5 units! Remember for the effect to work, the buoyant object must be submerged at all times. So you are calculating a return of 0.5. How does the Buoyant object on the right lower, while the water drops and still stay submerged? We have to add energy to keep it displacing the water on the way down. This is the equivalent to 1 unit of buoyancy x 0.5 units of distance on the "pull down". -0.5

The same thing happens again #4-#5.

Your other suggestion interests me: Can we move the container, capture the energy of the flow, then still use the water once it settles on the other side?

Buoyancy isn't a magical thing where light things float. Buoyancy is displaced water. You move water from a depth to the surface, displacing it with a "buoyant object" The further you move the water, the more energy you have put in to do so.

Cheers

Kaine.


Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: broli on August 03, 2022, 09:07:15 AM
Buoyancy isn't a magical thing where light things float. Buoyancy is displaced water. You move water from a depth to the surface, displacing it with a "buoyant object" The further you move the water, the more energy you have put in to do so.


I agree with that. It appears there is some sort of leverage effect going on in the old aquarium videos shown. However the Archimedes principle does not quantify this, as irregardless of the shape or depth of the air displacing the liquid the buoyant force should remain the same if the volume of air remains the same?
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: broli on August 03, 2022, 09:36:17 AM
Btw in the spirit of full disclosure the video made by Markus mentioned the lawsuit was dropped and he got an apology letter. However a quick google search shows that this is far from the truth: OSC Orders Display |Year=%|Search=|Page= (ok.gov) (https://www.securities.ok.gov/Enforcement/Orders/?FileNo=15-018&SortID=Filed%20Date&Display=All)


The lawsuit by the Oklahoma Department of Securities is still going strong it seems and Wayne was ordered to pay up to 2million$ back to "members" that have put money into the invention.
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: Tarsier_79 on August 03, 2022, 09:49:29 AM
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I agree with that. It appears there is some sort of leverage effect going on in the old aquarium videos shown. However the Archimedes principle does not quantify this, as irregardless of the shape or depth of the air displacing the liquid the buoyant force should remain the same if the volume of air remains the same?

Agreed. As you push it lower in the water you add energy, and you can take energy back on the way up. The amount of energy you can get is determined by how far you push it down.... Hence why you can calculate energy of displacement on graph paper.
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: broli on August 03, 2022, 11:07:57 AM
Agreed. As you push it lower in the water you add energy, and you can take energy back on the way up. The amount of energy you can get is determined by how far you push it down.... Hence why you can calculate energy of displacement on graph paper.


So if you trade in force for distance then what is the big fuss about. I also went through the 10 year old thread here: [size=78%]Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system. (https://overunity.com/10596/hydro-differential-pressure-exchange-over-unity-system/3090/)[/size] Which does not offer much besides countless pages of text. No one has managed to replicate or show any energy production that exceeds the input. So now 10 years later he's back with an on going 2million$ lawsuit and still no working commercial device big nor small. Are we just rolling back time and starting all over?
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: mrwayne on August 03, 2022, 12:07:31 PM
Btw in the spirit of full disclosure the video made by Markus mentioned the lawsuit was dropped and he got an apology letter. However a quick google search shows that this is far from the truth: OSC Orders Display |Year=%|Search=|Page= (ok.gov) (https://www.securities.ok.gov/Enforcement/Orders/?FileNo=15-018&SortID=Filed%20Date&Display=All)


The lawsuit by the Oklahoma Department of Securities is still going strong it seems and Wayne was ordered to pay up to 2million$ back to "members" that have put money into the invention.


I suggest if your going to be in the spirit of full disclosure you should get your information straight.- Markus mentioned the FBI.

The FBI in fact closed the case and Apologized.


The state, after five years, dropped all allegations, fines and penalties - took my offer to repay any of my friends and family back that wished to exit, and the judge ordered it so. DUh

And - I am paying back $269,000 in loans - and glad to do it.

In the spirit od full disclosure - it was a civil case - not criminal Thanks ...

Do you know what the original claim was?  Free Energy Machines are impossible - must be a fraud.... give that a think for a bit. Smile


Mr Wayne
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: mrwayne on August 03, 2022, 12:55:58 PM

I agree with that. It appears there is some sort of leverage effect going on in the old aquarium videos shown. However the Archimedes principle does not quantify this, as regardless of the shape or depth of the air displacing the liquid the buoyant force should remain the same if the volume of air remains the same?


A Buoyancy force is a result of pressure differentials and no horizontal surface areas - you can look it up on Harvard's study of Buoyancy (its in the foot notes),


Buoyancy - when not interfered with  - typically correlates to Volume not interfered with (opposing forces redirected) in those cases- the shape of the air does not matter.


But when the opposing forces are redirected - those must be accounted for - to have a clear understanding and correct buoyancy calculation.


When you use a contained volume of air to surround a submerged object - that object is not longer buoyancy - and has weight, adding weight to a buoyancy object cancels out some of the buoyancy (if they are attached).


If a contained volume of air surrounds a submerged object and that it is not attached, the objects causes an increase in the pressure - which results in increased buoyancy.


Technically - Pressure "Differences" X  non-vertical Surface areas = buoyancy (horizontal pressures are normally not differential).


So 12 inch cube has a surface area of 144 square inches, 12 inches of head in water is near .43 pounds pressure - no matter the depth - that will be the basic pressure difference. 144*.43 = about 62 pounds force or buoyancy.


Now what the Travis Effect does is three things - the internal displacer takes the place of air - and the Pressure differential requires less volume to maintain the same pressure - and when the inner displacer is externally held - its weight is does not counteract a the buoyant force.


Then, when the inner displacer is attached - its weight counteracts that portion of the buoyancy.


So the built and tested design Markus shared - is a clever way to switch between those two states to cause unequal work - and the obvious elimination of the need for an air compressor. 


Mr Wayne


 






 
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: codwell on August 03, 2022, 04:00:39 PM
We have to add energy to keep it displacing the water on the way down.

Right there, yes. I introduced this as an error. Container need to be lifted higher to actually get the water to flow over if the bouyant objects afloat on top of water after unlock and energy is released. One more figure with the corrected water levels to close this sidetrack.


1. initial state
2. lift right container with water 3 units up: 0.5 x 3 = 1.5
3. transfer water to left container (left bouyant object locked), water displace releases energy: 0.5 x 0.5 = 0.25
4. unlock left bouyant object, release energy: 1.0 x 0.5 = 0.5, right container falls down 3 units (weightless)
5. transfer water to right container (right bouyant object locked), water level change releases energy: 0.5 x 0.5 = 0.25
6. unlock right bouyant object, release energy: 1.0 x 0.5 = 0.5, getting back to initial state

In: 1.5
Out: 0.25 + 0.5 + 0.25 + 0.5 = 1.5

In = out

Thanks for pointing out the error! Getting back to Mr. Wayne's invention, I still don't understand how it can work.
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: mrwayne on August 03, 2022, 04:27:59 PM
I will be sharing more about the discovery on the board labeled "Wayne Travis Builder Board". Thanks!


Mr Wayne
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: Tarsier_79 on August 03, 2022, 06:24:50 PM
Hi Codwell

It doesn't work. The force x distance input = force x distance output. It is in Waynes financial interest to try to bamboozle everyone with fairy dust and BS.
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: ramset on August 03, 2022, 07:42:01 PM
I will be sharing more about the discovery on the board labeled "Wayne Travis Builder Board". Thanks!


Mr Wayne


Here is link
https://overunity.com/19204/room-for-free-energy-and-its-physics/msg569550/#new (https://overunity.com/19204/room-for-free-energy-and-its-physics/msg569550/#new)
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: Tarsier_79 on August 03, 2022, 09:04:23 PM
Mr Waynes spreadsheet does not match the diagram he uses to show his system. False values show a false over-unity.

On the other thread, I corrected one value, the stroke input vs stroke output. I ended up with a value of 98%.(This also falls within a close margin of error on the calculations I did based on the diagram below.) Mr Wayne immediately deleted the spread sheet. I asked him to correct either the diagram to represent the spread sheet, or update the spread sheet, which he refuses to do. I will re-attach his original spreadsheet below, and additionally the updated spread sheet. Will someone please validate my concern with this data?

Thank you.

Kaine.
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: mrwayne on August 03, 2022, 10:16:32 PM
Mr Waynes spreadsheet does not match the diagram he uses to show his system. False values show a false over-unity.

On the other thread, I corrected one value, the stroke input vs stroke output. I ended up with a value of 98%.(This also falls within a close margin of error on the calculations I did based on the diagram below.) Mr Wayne immediately deleted the spread sheet. I asked him to correct either the diagram to represent the spread sheet, or update the spread sheet, which he refuses to do. I will re-attach his original spreadsheet below, and additionally the updated spread sheet. Will someone please validate my concern with this data?

Thank you.

Kaine.


The Video is an illustration of function, not a imperial measurement - proper measurements can be tested in the data provided, at the link Ramset Provided - Thanks
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: broli on August 03, 2022, 10:37:39 PM
Honestly to me this is all a confusing mess. I'm always the slow one but I much rather prefer simple illustrations rather than walls of text, references to videos and spreadsheet. They say when the student ends up confused it's not the student that is stupid but the teacher that is too stupid to teach.


Codwell did a very good attempt at illustrating this. Why don't you use his skills and some simple numbers to show the magic gain.
Title: Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
Post by: Tarsier_79 on August 03, 2022, 10:43:54 PM
As requested before. W.T. Please provide a correct diagram.

If you increase the power stroke, you have to increase the distance you move the buoyant container downwards.

If there is no gain in this diagram, and it shows unity, any variation of it will also show unity.

I am interested in truth only. Once someone provides a true OU device, I will be their biggest supporter and will happily back up any claims with evidence. The opposite also applies.