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Author Topic: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked  (Read 6372 times)

Offline onepower

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Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2022, 08:11:34 PM »
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And yes a gravity powered FE device
Which makes more power that that which is required
To cycle it?
IMPOSSIBLE!!

I think we need to be more specific and in context...

The evaporation of water on Earth lifts 17 million cubic meters per second which then falls due to gravity as rain. This is an evaporation/gravity powered phenomena which is responsible for all hydro power on the planet supplying around 4.3 petawatt hours of energy. We did not create this energy the Sun did so in effect it is a form of free solar/gravity energy.

In fact many in the past supposed rain and the water cycle was magic because they didn't understand how it worked. For similar reasons many today cannot understand how free energy devices could work. Apparently every generation thinks they have everything figured out and there generally always proven wrong.

As Mark Twain said..."It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so."

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AC

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Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2022, 09:37:22 PM »
I found three patents of his on the USPTO list:
9,574,5779,297,3538,887,497https://www.pat2pdf.org/

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Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2022, 12:43:10 PM »
The "travis effecct" is not new or original. It is no different to "floating a ship in a bathtub of water".

At no time in both videos listed did I see any vestige of hope of "free energy". All examples shown and explained were flawed... bringing a rock back from the moon: give me a break. The Travis effect demonstration: How much energy does it take to pump water against hydrostatic pressure to that depth in the first place? There is a difference between efficient and OU.

And this is why this device is BS: In the picture below, the top hydraulic actuator has collected the energy. Now we are expected to believe that the buoyant container on the right takes little energy to pull to the bottom of the tank. I can tell you how much energy that requires....more than you get from the same buoyant force pushing a ram 1/2 of the distance at the top.
 
Can we try to get around this fatal flaw?... Gravity is a harsh mistress. There is no free ride. This design is not OU.

Offline mrwayne

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Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2022, 10:33:39 AM »
Hello OverUnity Crowd,


Ten Years ago I discovered the Travis Effect - I have since fought and won against the FBI, and the State Administration (ODS) - who both claimed I was a fraud - for claiming the discovery of Free Energy - they both ate those words - and I won both cases.


The State pretends they won a victory because i was ordered to repay my friends and family who had helped me - our of 250 supporting families - 27 left.


The Markus Nenning Video's you have mentioned in this thread are very simple, and even if you spread sheet the video - you will find it generated energy very powerfully. The Cartoon will show about 145% efficient and the optimized will show up to 198% - because the input is just about nearly half the output.
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Here is one of your own's Spread sheets - have fun!


Wayne Travis

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Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2022, 10:38:17 AM »
The "travis effecct" is not new or original. It is no different to "floating a ship in a bathtub of water".



The Travis effect does not operate like a ship floating - it Travis Effect interacts with a volume displacer "internally" - and if that "volume displacer" is attached or not changes the buoyant value - the difference between those two states of buoyancy determines the free energy that is available - thanks for your input.


All it took was a simple clever way to alternate between states of force - smile


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Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2022, 10:43:41 AM »
The need is too great to delay !!


Thanks for the news
Respectfully
Chet K


It has been delayed Tem Years - and need not be delayed any longer - I closed looped in 2010 - but this design - is powerful, scalable, ecnomical, and requires nothing complex - watch Markus' second video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTbIJnEOw8Y&lc=UgzZVZ2Yld1XqiS7BbB4AaABAg.9dnMD1elZwd9dnSPWu-6sX


It really is this easy.


We need people demanding it - the government is still trying to block me, make your own. But if you want to sell them - talk to me so I can make it legal.


Mr Wayne


Offline Paul-R

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Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2022, 11:01:50 AM »
I found three patents of his on the USPTO list:
9,574,5779,297,3538,887,497
https://www.pat2pdf.org/
i.e.:

9,574,577 --- 9,297,353 --- 8,887,497

Offline mrwayne

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Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2022, 11:14:10 AM »
Paul, I am patented internationally - over $200K in patents and fee's - but anyone who wants to build one for themselves - need only ask - I will help them.


Markus' video reduces the process of generating energy into its most simple fundamentals.


Ten years ago - everyone focused on analyzing a single side - and never figured it out - Larry focused on the whole system - yet it was too complex then. Now - it is simple - and it takes four functions + a capture and conversion process:


1. Using the more powerful Travis Effect buoyancy for output
2. Sinking at the standard Archimedes' buoyancy
3. A method to switch between the two states of buoyancy
4  A method is eliminate an air compressor


After that - capture and direct - easy peasy..


Mr Wayne

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Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2022, 11:17:53 AM »
Paul, I am patented internationally - over $200K in patents and fee's - but anyone who wants to build one for themselves - need only ask - I will help them.

Yes, I'm sure. But patents can be a very neat and compact resource. - You will have put a lot of work into making them so.

Offline mrwayne

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Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2022, 11:33:05 AM »
Yes we did, but we also did not explain - ratio's, Ideal set ups, and limitations.


Thanks


Mr. Wayne

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Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2022, 02:11:07 PM »
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Ten Years ago I discovered the Travis Effect -

And presumptuous of you to name something after yourself that you did not discover... One of my pet hates.


Let us do some hll-billy math with some graph paper on the "cartoon" that is apparently 145% efficient:

By my calculations in this scale:

The power stroke is determined by the effective buoyancy of the container: 20 x 21 units x stroke of 7 units = 2940.

The actual buoyancy is determined by the actual air in the top container: 20 x 8 +16 =186

For reset we need to pull the buoyant load down 22 units: 186 x 22 = 4092.

That gives us an efficiency of (work output/work input x 100) 71.84%

So what am I missing?


Offline memoryman

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Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2022, 02:47:51 PM »
"Ten Years ago I discovered the Travis Effect -" and still can't explain in ENERGY terms why it is (supposedly) OU.

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Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2022, 08:11:50 PM »
Wayne has nothing. There is NOTHING commercially available based on his 'effect'.


p.s. the Travis Effect creates the opportunity for a asymmetrical system... Love it.

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Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2022, 08:20:30 PM »
And presumptuous of you to name something after yourself that you did not discover... One of my pet hates.


Let us do some hll-billy math with some graph paper on the "cartoon" that is apparently 145% efficient:

By my calculations in this scale:

The power stroke is determined by the effective buoyancy of the container: 20 x 21 units x stroke of 7 units = 2940.

The actual buoyancy is determined by the actual air in the top container: 20 x 8 +16 =186

For reset we need to pull the buoyant load down 22 units: 186 x 22 = 4092.

That gives us an efficiency of (work output/work input x 100) 71.84%

So what am I missing?


Yeah - it would have been rude of me to name the discovery after myself - good thing that I did not. Thanks for noticing my non presumptive and non assuming position.


I attached a spread sheet earlier - your doing your buoyancy calcs wrong - as in the Travis Effect - is the effect of reducing volume required to do lift. We use that advantage during work out and then standard buoyancy on the way down.


Take a good look at the spreadsheets - they were done independently, and notice that pressure times surface areas is used.


Watch Markus Nennings two you tube videos - he will explain.


Thanks Wayne







Offline mrwayne

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Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2022, 08:25:23 PM »
"Ten Years ago I discovered the Travis Effect -" and still can't explain in ENERGY terms why it is (supposedly) OU.


Oh yes I can - "Less input for standardized work"...Boom - its that easy... Say it over and over until is in your memory.. pun fun..


Thanks Mr Wayne