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Author Topic: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked  (Read 5625 times)

Offline Tarsier_79

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Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
« Reply #30 on: July 31, 2022, 08:59:47 PM »
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Yeah - it would have been rude of me to name the discovery after myself - good thing that I did not. Thanks for noticing my non presumptive and non assuming position.

Like I said: you didn't actually discover anything. The Spiteri pump (also not OU) predates your "discovery", uses the same underlying principle, and is much more efficient. There are also drawings Bessler did 300 years ago using the same principle, again not OU. When I first stumbled across it it 04, I phoned my wife at work and told her I discovered PM. I then calculated input and output and realised my mistake before she arrived home.


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I attached a spread sheet earlier - your doing your buoyancy calcs wrong - as in the Travis Effect - is the effect of reducing volume required to do lift. We use that advantage during work out and then standard buoyancy on the way down.

No sh#t. That is exactly how I calculated the lift and the standard buoyancy drop. You are just upset I calculated them in a way a primary school kid could understand when you spent all that time over-engineering a solution to try to complicates it as much as possible.

No matter how you arrange it, you will never get over-unity out of your design. At best you might approach unity in a cartoon drawing. I feel sorry for anyone who is fooled by your design and invests any money with you. You should be charged with fraud.

Offline Tarsier_79

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Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
« Reply #31 on: July 31, 2022, 09:28:55 PM »
Here I have attached an updated drawing showing the dimensions used, for anyone wishing to do the calcs themselves.

I realised I didn't account for the positive buoyancy for the mostly empty container on the left. It still won't be the game changer. This design will never be OU. Any leverage tricks you try to use won't fool gravity.

Offline mrwayne

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Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
« Reply #32 on: July 31, 2022, 09:43:04 PM »
Like I said: you didn't actually discover anything. The Spiteri pump (also not OU) predates your "discovery", uses the same underlying principle, and is much more efficient. There are also drawings Bessler did 300 years ago using the same principle, again not OU. When I first stumbled across it it 04, I phoned my wife at work and told her I discovered PM. I then calculated input and output and realised my mistake before she arrived home.


No sh#t. That is exactly how I calculated the lift and the standard buoyancy drop. You are just upset I calculated them in a way a primary school kid could understand when you spent all that time over-engineering a solution to try to complicates it as much as possible.

No matter how you arrange it, you will never get over-unity out of your design. At best you might approach unity in a cartoon drawing. I feel sorry for anyone who is fooled by your design and invests any money with you. You should be charged with fraud.


Sorry for your hardships, and your opinions are noted - but your understanding is lacking. Try harder..Thanks

Offline mrwayne

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Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
« Reply #33 on: July 31, 2022, 09:47:17 PM »
Here I have attached an updated drawing showing the dimensions used, for anyone wishing to do the calcs themselves.

I realised I didn't account for the positive buoyancy for the mostly empty container on the left. It still won't be the game changer. This design will never be OU. Any leverage tricks you try to use won't fool gravity.


p.s. the inner containers are filled with water.... The inner container switches from neutral to Weight depending on the air surrounding or not surrounding it - Now - if you can, calculate that weight shift into he operation and then update the team - it is already in the spread sheet I gave you -  Thanks! Wayne

Offline memoryman

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Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
« Reply #34 on: July 31, 2022, 10:26:13 PM »
Here is the definition of 'work' in physics:
"work, in physics, measure of energy transfer that occurs when an object is moved over a distance by an external force at least part of which is applied in the direction of the displacement.
Work is NOT conserved; energy IS."
Total the energy in the system at the start (make sure the system is closed), all the energy going in your system, the energy out the system and the remaining energy in the system. Explain any 'surplus'.

Offline mrwayne

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Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
« Reply #35 on: July 31, 2022, 11:01:08 PM »
Here is the definition of 'work' in physics:
"work, in physics, measure of energy transfer that occurs when an object is moved over a distance by an external force at least part of which is applied in the direction of the displacement.
Work is NOT conserved; energy IS."
Total the energy in the system at the start (make sure the system is closed), all the energy going in your system, the energy out the system and the remaining energy in the system. Explain any 'surplus'.


I honestly don't care what you call it - the work from this closed looped machine makes electricity available at no cost to anyone or anything. Period.


Looking for a source of the surplus is your error (typical of people schooled in conversion and consumption and lacking in asymmetric systems).


An "unequal work process" or a "asymmetric work system" has a "caused remainder" not a sourced conversion - Yes - this is Nobel prize worthy knowledge.


SO - my technology proves that there exists two scopes of physics - consumption and conversion, and work differential systems - you will be comforted to know that most of the physics over lap - and you just have to grasp a few more laws to understand the difference.


 Thanks Mr Wayne


Offline Tarsier_79

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Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
« Reply #36 on: July 31, 2022, 11:13:49 PM »
Oh I understand the system perfectly.

If your system worked, it could be easily simplified using standard plumbing equipment, not requiring any hydraulics or microcontrollers. It is you who don't understand your own design.

It is a pity this field contains charlatans like you MrWayne. Scammers like you give the hard working people, like most on this forum truly trying to find OU a bad name.


Offline Jimboot

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Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
« Reply #37 on: July 31, 2022, 11:19:24 PM »
Thanks Wayne I appreciate you sharing . Very interesting. I thought Marcus videos were a lot fun and the effect is intriguing

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Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
« Reply #38 on: July 31, 2022, 11:19:45 PM »
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p.s. the inner containers are filled with water.... The inner container switches from neutral to Weight depending on the air surrounding or not surrounding it - Now - if you can, calculate that weight shift into he operation and then update the team - it is already in the spread sheet I gave you -  Thanks! Wayne

Once again you show your ignorance of the physics behind displacement. It doesn't matter if the inner containers are filled with air, water or lead.

Offline memoryman

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Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
« Reply #39 on: July 31, 2022, 11:23:44 PM »
" it is already in the spread sheet I gave you " yes, the spreadsheet: Garbage in-garbage out. Reminds me of Elon Musk's 'white papers".

Offline mrwayne

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Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
« Reply #40 on: July 31, 2022, 11:31:09 PM »
Oh I understand the system perfectly.

If your system worked, it could be easily simplified using standard plumbing equipment, not requiring any hydraulics or microcontrollers. It is you who don't understand your own design.

It is a pity this field contains charlatans like you MrWayne. Scammers like you give the hard working people, like most on this forum truly trying to find OU a bad name.


Lol I don't get upset by people with no manners - because you throw away your respectability.


Take care

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Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
« Reply #41 on: July 31, 2022, 11:36:51 PM »
Thanks Wayne I appreciate you sharing . Very interesting. I thought Marcus videos were a lot fun and the effect is intriguing


Thank You Jim,


Markus did a great job, he is amazing! His modeling of the travis effect was a mistake - here is a link to the original video by Tom.


Travis Effect 5


 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW0LKPM0Tvk


Thats my channel if you want to watch all five Videos Tom made.


Wayne








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Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
« Reply #42 on: July 31, 2022, 11:42:36 PM »
" it is already in the spread sheet I gave you " yes, the spreadsheet: Garbage in-garbage out. Reminds me of Elon Musk's 'white papers".


Use questions when you don't understand, and you will learn more.



Its ok if its hard to grasp - better people than you and I struggled over it.. that may be why something so simple was so hard to discover.


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Offline mrwayne

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Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
« Reply #43 on: July 31, 2022, 11:47:38 PM »
Once again you show your ignorance of the physics behind displacement. It doesn't matter if the inner containers are filled with air, water or lead.


I am sorry if this sounds rough - but it does matter - if the inner and outer are connected - its your demonstrated lack of experience with buoyancy that is confusing you - try to be a bit more patient, you are learning new things.


When connected - the water weight cancels a portion of the buoyancy - BOOM, that portion of the buoyancy is directly the cause of the work difference - Ka Boom.


So look closer at the video - and find the connection point - and redo your work.


Mr Wayne

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Re: The breakthrough in Free Energy - a system that cannot be debunked
« Reply #44 on: August 01, 2022, 12:02:09 AM »
So for those of you who have been following - a couple of critics here just revealed why my system has a work difference - Now they don't get it yet - but they will.


When the one side is being pulled down - its buoyancy is "the actual air volume" value of buoyancy - and this is the input cost (sinking a buoyant object a distance).


Now this sinking action positions the other side in the Initial Travis Effect position - and as everyone should d know by now - the Travis effect is special for the fact that the buoyancy work exceeds the air volume required.


Work in - standard buoyancy, work out exceeds standard buoyancy.


The clever part is how the "work in" also eliminates an air transfer cost.


Thanks for checking it out.


Mr Wayne


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