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Author Topic: Global extremism and radicalism  (Read 1284 times)

Offline onepower

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Global extremism and radicalism
« on: June 24, 2022, 08:06:04 PM »
Watching the world continue to implode today...

Russia continues its war in Ukraine which was also meant to destabilize and drag down the world economy. As intended fossil fuels are at record levels and clean/renewable energy is in trouble. Russia is a primitive resource based economy still living in the dark ages. So of course they couldn't allow other countries to make progress as they continue to devolve into chaos and barbarism.

The U.S. continues its downward slide to the dark ages. The Supreme Court overruled roe vs wade today lowering women's rights to levels similar to third world countries like Iran or Iraq. The same radicalized court also overturned many gun regulations. The U.S. gun laws are now on par with most Islamic third world countries. As we can see the far right seem to want to create a radicalized and weaponized church state.

Russia has also continued to radicalize most far right groups like in Texas where they are threatening civil war or to separate from the U.S. as traitors to there own country. Many radicalized far right groups in other countries are also following the pattern of sedition and treason.

We can also be certain the Communist/authoritarian war on clean energy also includes free energy. We could assume any technology which liberates people and increases there freedom will be threatened. The overall pattern would seem to suggest devolving instead of evolving.

George Orwell ie.1984 may have called this one correctly. Russia and these radical far right/fascist groups seem to be following the same playbook to take control and return to the dark ages.

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AC

Offline AlienGrey

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Re: Global extremism and radicalism
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2022, 02:31:33 PM »
George Orwell wasn’t his real name he was a  'Blair', does that name ring a bell ?
Any way most of these ruling class behave like psychoses  :D

Talking of witch have any of you got windows 11 yet ?
where every thing goes through the 'cloud', some one else’s computer
are you all happy with that ?

Offline stivep

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Re: Global extremism and radicalism
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2022, 02:34:08 AM »
Russia is  // in the dark ages. //chaos and barbarism.

The U.S.  court also overturned many gun regulations.//
far right seem to want to create a radicalized and weaponized church state.


Russia has  radicalized // Texas // far right groups in other countries
//Communist//war // includes free energy.
We could assume any technology which liberates people and increases there freedom will be threatened.

George Orwell ie.1984 may have called this one correctly.
Russia and these radical far right/fascist groups seem to be following the
same playbook to take control and return to the dark ages.

Regards
AC
I agree with your position about the Russia.

Gun rights in USA prevents, totalitarianism, here in USA, - no government  or Pres. is in power to
to stay there for 22 years like Pres. Putin .
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radicalized // church state
affected Supreme Court  revoking federal protection on abortion rights.

Russians were messing with England in effect of it exceeding EU.
Russians were actively messing up with electors and  gun industry in USA
“Russian spy” Maria Butina

Renewable energy, free energy was criticized by Russian Pres. Putin
https://youtu.be/52GBUvJF_XA?t=4653

George Orwell was talented writer and unfortunately he was a victim of circumstances leading to
Leftists, and  socialist movement, heavily published in  Soviet Union.
he died at 47
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Orwell

Wesley

Offline stivep

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Re: Global extremism and radicalism
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2022, 02:47:09 AM »
George Orwell wasn’t his real name he was a  'Blair', does that name ring a bell ?
I didn't find any connections, or family roots between George Orwell and Microsoft 'Blair',
Wesley

Offline AlienGrey

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Re: Global extremism and radicalism
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2022, 02:53:46 PM »
George Orwell
Eric Arthur Blair, known by his pen name George Orwell, was an English novelist, essayist, journalist and critic. His work is characterised by lucid prose, social criticism, opposition to totalitarianism, and support of democratic socialism. Orwell produced literary criticism and poetry, fiction and polemical journalism.Wikipedia
Born:Eric Arthur Blair, 25 June 1903, Motihari, Bengal Presidency, British India, (present-day Bihar, India)
Died:January 21, 1950, London, England


Offline onepower

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Re: Global extremism and radicalism
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2022, 07:38:21 PM »
In the news...
First the U.S. Supreme Court trashed gun carry laws and women's rights regarding there own body and now started gutting environmental law. The radical far right judges appear to be compulsive liars like trump because not long ago they swore under oath they would never overturn standing precedents. In fact, the far right judges have now implied they intend to burn the court and any precedents to the ground. What a shit show and it's making the U.S. and the courts look like clowns.

I wonder what could be going on?, what do these radicalized far right extremists want?...

Lauren Boebert gave us a clue...
“I’m tired of this separation of church and state junk,”
“The church is supposed to direct the government. The government is not supposed to direct the church.”


At least one of them is honest and the other shoe finally dropped. It's pretty obvious these far right extremists wanted to create a authoritarian church state ruled by religious dogma all along. You know like ISIS, the Taliban, the middle east and Iraq/Iran where criminals can roam the streets and women are treated like cattle. As trump described it, just another third world shithole.

It's just mind boggling watching all this methodically play out south of the border. It looks like the U.S. may become another third world shithole like Russia.

Regards
AC

Offline Ufopolitics

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Re: Global extremism and radicalism
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2022, 08:27:17 PM »
In the news...
First the U.S. Supreme Court trashed gun carry laws and women's rights regarding there own body and now started gutting environmental law. The radical far right judges appear to be compulsive liars like trump because not long ago they swore under oath they would never overturn standing precedents. In fact, the far right judges have now implied they intend to burn the court and any precedents to the ground. What a shit show and it's making the U.S. and the courts look like clowns.

I wonder what could be going on?, what do these radicalized far right extremists want?...

Lauren Boebert gave us a clue...
“I’m tired of this separation of church and state junk,”
“The church is supposed to direct the government. The government is not supposed to direct the church.”


At least one of them is honest and the other shoe finally dropped. It's pretty obvious these far right extremists wanted to create a authoritarian church state ruled by religious dogma all along. You know like ISIS, the Taliban, the middle east and Iraq/Iran where criminals can roam the streets and women are treated like cattle. As trump described it, just another third world shithole.

It's just mind boggling watching all this methodically play out south of the border. It looks like the U.S. may become another third world shithole like Russia.

Regards
AC


Hey AC,

I could not agree more with you above...
But, a simple question, in your beliefs and understanding...who started all this Circus?

IMHO, it was started by the "Main Orange Clown" on his 4 years of power....the Fatso with a funny "blond" gig and Orange makeup...plus all his Trumpsters Cult followers...

I am not saying that all this Ultra far right was not there before...it was there, it always has been there, but just in a "standby" status...until a "Leader" will climb up to the White House...then the fire within started to grow...up to now.

The damage this Clown has done to USA, is not going to be resolved anytime soon...it may take years...

Plus, honestly, IMO, Democrats and actual POTUS are not strong enough to bring his entire Mafia/Cult down to the ground.

But, they are working on it, though...I only hope am wrong.

IMO, Trump should have been dressed up in an orange suit (to match his makeup) a long time ago, behind bars...plus all his Bozo's!!

Sincerely

Ufopolitics

Offline onepower

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Re: Global extremism and radicalism
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2022, 10:45:49 PM »
Ufopolitics
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I could not agree more with you above...
But, a simple question, in your beliefs and understanding...who started all this Circus?

IMHO, it was started by the "Main Orange Clown" on his 4 years of power....the Fatso with a funny "blond" gig and Orange makeup...plus all his Trumpsters Cult followers...

I would agree but have come to understand Trump is simply a useful idiot...

These far right religious extremists needed a fool like trump to throw under the bus just as trump through his followers under the bus, useful idiots one and all. They managed to corrupt the Supreme Court, corrupt the government, corrupt the voting system and there's little to stop them now. As trump said, he could shoot someone in broad daylight and these fools would still cheer him on and vote for him. They have literally thrown whatever morality they had out the window.

As many in the past have implied, these useful idiots are capable of any kind of evil because they believe there doing gods will and not there own. For example, they killed many people at the Jan 6 insurrection but some say they believe the insurrectionists were tourists. You know, because tourists always try to overthrow the government, kill people in the way and then try to hang the vice president. You can't even make this level of stupidity up...

As such I have blacklisted these people from all my businesses/projects and consider them to be on the same level as any other terrorists like ISIS, Taliban, Al-Qaeda and Russia.

It certainly hits home doesn't it?...
“I’m tired of this separation of church and state junk,”
“The church is supposed to direct the government. The government is not supposed to direct the church.”


There's simply no getting around that kind of bat shit crazy and we know this never ends well from history...

Regards
AC

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Re: Global extremism and radicalism
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2022, 12:41:04 AM »

separation of church and state
as a political distance in the relationship between religious organizations and the state.
gives equal rights to  people from a range of different social and ethnic backgrounds
and of different genders, sexual orientations, etc.:
for example:
-atheists cannot be attacked by religious groups and reverse.
that is especially important because atheists are not associated with groups,
they are  usually vulnerable individuals in between these organized groups
having unified agenda.
LGBT's cannot be any longer attacked by religious groups  and so on..

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First the U.S. Supreme Court trashed gun carry laws and women's rights regarding t
here own body and now started gutting environmental law.
//another third world shithole like Russia.
Opposers of guns have valid arguments but
-guns in the hands of Americans prevents it to become another Russia.
it was historically and constitutionally a tool of American civilian defense.

women's rights should not be violated by any government especially United States,
-temporary victory of some religious groups is your own fault my dear Americans.
the same was with choosing and electing Mr. Trump.
Freaking insane....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZufI68lbzA
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Do you think where your madness is hidden?
Don't think about it Just let it grow up on you



but..
different social and ethnic backgrounds
and of different genders,
May / might + have  something in common - sexual fantasies.
https://youtu.be/aZla1ttZHaw?t=100

despite their religiousness.

Wesley

Offline Paul-R

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Re: Global extremism and radicalism
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2022, 11:59:40 AM »
We have to remember that it is not as matter of the state and religion. There are at least five large ones and no clear agreement between them.

Offline onepower

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Re: Global extremism and radicalism
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2022, 09:22:18 PM »
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We have to remember that it is not as matter of the state and religion. There are at least five large ones and no clear agreement between them.

I would disagree and there must always be a separation between religion/beliefs and government as a matter of credibility and facts.

If some want to "believe" the Earth is flat they own there ignorance and it doesn't effect most others. However when they start corrupting the government and courts trying to overthrow them by force killing people like on Jan 6 now there terrorists. This is why false beliefs can have no place in government and it must be fact based.

Would you allow someone to run your business or serve your interests who follows false beliefs?. The bank could say your a heretic if you don't agree and seize your accounts. The police could beat you senseless and throw your family in prison as a non-believers. Any corporation could cheat you then claim you deserved it as a non-believer. They could commit all kinds of atrocities and take no responsibility as it wasn't them it was there "belief" that made them do it. Thus it's ultimately a cowards game, a child like mentality where they believe they can do no wrong and need no justification or take any responsibility for there actions.

Real men are man enough to take responsibility for there actions and justify them with facts... the rest are cowards.

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AC

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Re: Global extremism and radicalism
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2022, 10:43:00 PM »
Paul
I would disagree and there must always be a separation between religion/beliefs and government as a matter of credibility and facts.

I absolutely agree but you miss the point. When these right wingers speak of "church" or "religion", they presume that there is only one, christianity. What makes their view doubly ridiculous is that this is not so; there are numerous and their conclusion, if honest, must be that their proposal is unmanageable.

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Re: Global extremism and radicalism
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2022, 12:19:06 AM »
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I absolutely agree but you miss the point. When these right wingers speak of "church" or "religion", they presume that there is only one, christianity. What makes their view doubly ridiculous is that this is not so; there are numerous and their conclusion, if honest, must be that their proposal is unmanageable.

Of course, all believers think there beliefs are the only right ones despite the fact all the other believers are using the same kind of reasoning. All of them believe there absolutely right but obviously all of them cannot be hence the dilemma...

Here in Alberta most of my friends are evangelical christian's and it's cool. They don't try to push it on anyone or bring it up in every conversation or try to convert others as if it were some kind of contest. They keep there person beliefs to themselves and out of science, business and government. So we should be clear the bs were seeing is not the majority more so a radicalized minority of extremists. However I should note there are many people and groups here who have been radicalized because of the fossil fuel industry. You know the shtick, guns, money, substance abuse and religion just like Texas.

As well we could make the correlation that the more radical, outspoken and popular the individual the larger there bank account. Apparently duping large numbers of people for profit does pay rather well. Here's a clue, the person not asking for your money or something of value from us is probably the most honest person in the room... go figure.

Regards
AC





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Re: Global extremism and radicalism
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2022, 12:45:39 AM »
Paul
Of course, all believers think there beliefs are the only right ones despite the fact all the other believers are using the same kind of reasoning. All of them believe there absolutely right but obviously all of them cannot be hence the dilemma...

Here in Alberta most of my friends are evangelical christian's and it's cool. They don't try to push it on anyone or bring it up in every conversation or try to convert others as if it were some kind of contest. They keep there person beliefs to themselves and out of science, business and government. So we should be clear the bs were seeing is not the majority more so a radicalized minority of extremists. However I should note there are many people and groups here who have been radicalized because of the fossil fuel industry. You know the shtick, guns, money, substance abuse and religion just like Texas.

As well we could make the correlation that the more radical, outspoken and popular the individual the larger there bank account. Apparently duping large numbers of people for profit does pay rather well. Here's a clue, the person not asking for your money or something of value from us is probably the most honest person in the room... go figure.

Regards
AC
some people just love stirring up trouble to see the reaction. They are known as trolls.

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Re: Global extremism and radicalism
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2022, 08:20:18 AM »
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some people just love stirring up trouble to see the reaction. They are known as trolls.

Some people also like opening up an intelligent debate in hopes of hearing a coherent response from responsible adults who can use there words to express there beliefs...

Regards
AC