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## Discussion board help and admin topics => Half Baked Ideas => Topic started by: sm0ky2 on June 12, 2022, 09:42:19 PM

Title: Photovoltaic Arc Reactor - replicators discussion board
Post by: sm0ky2 on June 12, 2022, 09:42:19 PM
The photovoltaic arc reactor consists of:

A photovoltaic converter (cell / panel)
an array of handheld camera flash tubes (with reflector casings)
an electrostatic generator (pico to microwatts)

Construction is fairly intuitive.
Frequency match to machine output via spark gap into the flash tube array.

Output power measured from the photo cell

Title: Re: Photovoltaic Arc Reactor - replicators discussion board
Post by: sm0ky2 on June 19, 2022, 04:00:40 PM
Another setup using 1 micro flashtube and 1 4-terminal (“U”) fluorescent:

[120-500 pW]

Photonic output flux: ~80 Lumens
Estimated power conversion: 1.3W

photovoltaic capture: 0.4V, I (intermittent): 20mw

Photon output is verifiably greater than electrostatic input.

I will continue to experiment along these lines.
I believe that univectoral reflectors are key,
In that 90% of the light emits in directions away from the solar cell.

A more powerful electrostatic generator may be able to make use of cylindrical or spherical solar arrays.
Title: Re: Photovoltaic Arc Reactor - replicators discussion board
Post by: sm0ky2 on June 19, 2022, 04:19:32 PM
Theres no real way to get a handle on this math.
Quantum equations look like Lego’s in comparison.

We have thermal convection, electric convection, ionization,
as well as multiple photon cascades.

First there is a Noble Gas, these can range from Argon to Neon
The ionization math is fairly straightforward.
Next there is an excitator. This element (usually a vaporous metal) will ionize and lase, at a controlled rate determined by the ionization reluctance of the primary gas.
In many lamps this is Mercury.
The metal vapor heats and convects into tiny vortices throughout the tube, while blasting UV rays everywhere. Impossible to calculate without a supercomputer.
The electric field convects into its’ own vortices, and at certain points controls the thermal convection.
Need another supercomputer to calculate That…..
Eventually these photons cascade through all of the vapor metal atoms and the bulk of them reach the inner surface of the glass tube.
In many tubes, there is a phosphate molecule layer painted on. This is phosphorus and some other element, which vary like the rainbow in conversion of UV to the visible spectrum.

The solar cell itself has a range of light it can convert into electricity, so the choice of lamps and solar cells should be made in consideration to one another.

Science aside, this system can only be measured, not calculated, at this time.

Title: Re: Photovoltaic Arc Reactor - replicators discussion board
Post by: sm0ky2 on June 19, 2022, 04:37:26 PM
The question was posed as to “why” or “how” it is possible for more light energy to be emitted than electrical energy input.

The best attempt i can give at that is as follows:

At the atomic scale, “power” and “current” lose meaning due to the perspective.
we no longer measure in Volts and Amps.
But in Electron-Volts, and a time scale determined by the atomic structure.

For all intensive purposes, Potential is all that is necessary.

Current is a factor of system losses + the ionization/deionization rate
provided that the system doesnt ‘leak’ greatly, increasing the current will increase the amount of cascading that occurs, but not the rate at which it takes place on a physical level. Meaning that forcing higher currents is exactly like having multiple arc-reactor in parallel. But at a greater loss.

So if we used lets say 30 picowatt arc reactors to dimly light 30 tubes
To produce the light of 1 tube on a wall-jack

The 30 tubes would use about 1000x less energy.
To produce the same light.

our solar cells are very inefficient. At best we can convert less than half of the tube’s light back into electricity. You can’t self-run a lamp + solar cell.
But if the solar cell converts 500x more than what’s making the photons
We CAN!

Short answer: it takes less energy to create the photons than the photons provide.
A laser driven by electrostatic potential is exponentially more efficient than one driven by force.
[example: T.E.A. and those mica-converters]