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Author Topic: Capacitor Electrons Captor from Don Smith / Tesla  (Read 11379 times)

Offline madddann

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Re: Capacitor Electrons Captor from Don Smith / Tesla
« Reply #60 on: June 01, 2022, 12:15:48 AM »
Ok
Well, the basic idea is to charge a Cap from ground ( not from battery) and discharge it into one turn of primary coils ( Tesla coils)
On the secondary Coil the voltage and frequency is up to charge a capacitor bank?

Take care

Hi Vortex. Are you asking us questions? Aren't you supposed to be the one that knows this?
Anyway, what would you suggest as the next experiment?

Offline Vortex 22

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Re: Capacitor Electrons Captor from Don Smith / Tesla
« Reply #61 on: June 01, 2022, 01:38:04 AM »
Hi,

Honestly I never replicate Don Smith tabletop device
But gained a lot of knowledge from Don Smith materials !!!

I do know that coil electrons Captor must exist?
But I am playing a lot with capacitor electrons Captor
DC capacitor Captor
AC capacitor Captor



Offline tomd

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Re: Capacitor Electrons Captor from Don Smith / Tesla
« Reply #62 on: June 01, 2022, 10:29:29 AM »
Hi tomd.

How did you get those wild numbers? From what I calculated it is about 112000 joules per second (I used double 35kHZ neon sign transformer output frequency, not taking into account LC Tank resonant frequency), but the power is al reactive in that stage - LC resonant tank - If you try to use it you drain the LC tank resonance and kill it.

½C*V²*f
Parallel: ½*0.0000002*9000²*35100=2,843,100 joules
Series : ½*0.00000005*9000²*35100=71,077 joules


Offline r2fpl

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Re: Capacitor Electrons Captor from Don Smith / Tesla
« Reply #63 on: June 01, 2022, 10:59:38 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INPIfDGfMGs&t=3643s

Don Smith is cheating! I do not have such an option in this schematic that the frequency is 60 Hz!
The frequency would need to be in (30-37) Khz or as a DC.

This is FAKE ! No device has been proven to work by itself by DonS.
But nobody cares and pretends not to see it.



Offline seychelles

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Re: Capacitor Electrons Captor from Don Smith / Tesla
« Reply #64 on: June 01, 2022, 12:00:45 PM »
YEAP JUST A LOT OF FURFIES OR JACK AND JILL WENT UP THE HILL STORIES.

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Re: Capacitor Electrons Captor from Don Smith / Tesla
« Reply #65 on: June 01, 2022, 01:44:24 PM »
Just an observation. A polar capacitor can't be part of a tank circuit.

Offline Vortex 22

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Re: Capacitor Electrons Captor from Don Smith / Tesla
« Reply #66 on: June 01, 2022, 03:52:55 PM »
½C*V²*f
Parallel: ½*0.0000002*9000²*35100=2,843,100 joules
Series : ½*0.00000005*9000²*35100=71,077 joules
Wow that's a lot of energy !!!

''  This is one of most beautiful things ever produced in the way of apparatus: I take a generator of any
kind. With the generator I charge a condenser. Then I discharge the condenser under conditions
which result in the production of vibrations''

''  The condenser is the most wonderful instrument, as I have stated in my writings, because it enables us to attain greater activities than are practical with explosives. There is no limit to the energy which you can develop with a condenser. There is a limit to the energy which you can develop with an explosive. '

Nikola Tesla

Offline tomd

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Re: Capacitor Electrons Captor from Don Smith / Tesla
« Reply #67 on: June 01, 2022, 06:23:44 PM »
½C*V²*f
Parallel: ½*0.0000002*9000²*35100=2,843,100 joules
Series : ½*0.00000005*9000²*35100=71,077 joules

Correction:- assuming the given voltage is RMS the peak voltage will be 12,728V. A full bridge rectifier will result in double the frequency so 70,200 Hz.

Parallel: ½*0.0000002*12728²*70200=1,137,254 joules
Series : ½*0.00000005*12728²*70200=284,313 joules
No matter weather the 9,000 volts quoted is peak or RMS the resulting energy is more than enough.

By multiplying by frequency aren't you effectively converting joules to joules per second or watts?
« Last Edit: June 01, 2022, 09:03:34 PM by tomd »

Offline madddann

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Re: Capacitor Electrons Captor from Don Smith / Tesla
« Reply #68 on: June 01, 2022, 11:30:44 PM »
Hi tomd
Those caps are 4000V each and the maximum allowed voltage is not the same when in parallel as when in series, hope you know the basics of electronics.

About Don Smith being fake, that could be said for any unprooven device, but that doesen't mean that it is true. No need to supress this thread, people will go the way  they want whether you like it or not. They may not succed but will definitely learn a lot, if there is a chance that this would work, why not give it a try. Those who are willing and want to go that way should do it anyway.
I know that Don Smith topic has ben beeten to death many times in the past, but reading the forums is one thing and experiencing stuff first hand is another.

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Re: Capacitor Electrons Captor from Don Smith / Tesla
« Reply #69 on: June 02, 2022, 01:26:45 AM »
@maddan
Your right. However the source is a 9kv nst. Anyway I'll do the sums again using 4,000 volts.
Parallel: 0.5*0.0000002*4000²*70200=112,320
Series: 0.5*0.00000005*4000²*70200=28,080
Each cap in series would have 2000 volts across it. The total being 4000 volts.

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Re: Capacitor Electrons Captor from Don Smith / Tesla
« Reply #70 on: June 02, 2022, 06:48:36 AM »
Don's small suitcase model has a 12V battery which runs a 2.5Kv RMS 12mA nst. This connects directly to a 8000uF DC capacitor rated at 480 volts. The circuit seems to be missing some diodes to convert the AC to pulsed DC. Then basically the cap connects to an isolation transformer and then the load.

How is it that a 480VDC capacitor is being charged by a 3.75Kv peak nst?

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Re: Capacitor Electrons Captor from Don Smith / Tesla
« Reply #71 on: June 02, 2022, 10:14:30 PM »
Hi tomd.

Don's small suitcase model has a 12V battery which runs a 2.5Kv RMS 12mA nst. This connects directly to a 8000uF DC capacitor rated at 480 volts. The circuit seems to be missing some diodes to convert the AC to pulsed DC. Then basically the cap connects to an isolation transformer and then the load.

Could you please point me to the circuit - schematic of the mentioned suitcase device? Been long time since I went through all the Don Smith material - already forgot where which info is.

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How is it that a 480VDC capacitor is being charged by a 3.75Kv peak nst?

Did you ever try to capture a coil's flyback spike through a diode into a cap? What was the spike peak voltage and what was the cap voltage rating? Maybe put together the circuit and see what's going on.

Offline tomd

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Re: Capacitor Electrons Captor from Don Smith / Tesla
« Reply #72 on: June 02, 2022, 11:27:14 PM »
Hi tomd.

Could you please point me to the circuit - schematic of the mentioned suitcase device? Been long time since I went through all the Don Smith material - already forgot where which info is.

Did you ever try to capture a coil's flyback spike through a diode into a cap? What was the spike peak voltage and what was the cap voltage rating? Maybe put together the circuit and see what's going on.

I have attached the schematic. I think the circuit needs a gdt between the cap and isolation transformer. The gdt would have a breakdown voltage less than the voltage rating of the cap (480v).

It seems to me this schematic would be easy to combine with Vortex's water ground cap charging.

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Re: Capacitor Electrons Captor from Don Smith / Tesla
« Reply #73 on: June 03, 2022, 12:30:22 AM »
C-1 capacitor or bank of capacitor 8000 micro farads for 480 volts DC?

 Power output
480 volts at 60 amps

My guess
It's a polar capacitor electrons Captor? Ok

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Re: Capacitor Electrons Captor from Don Smith / Tesla
« Reply #74 on: June 03, 2022, 04:26:19 AM »
C-1 capacitor or bank of capacitor 8000 micro farads for 480 volts DC?

 Power output
480 volts at 60 amps

My guess
It's a polar capacitor electrons Captor? Ok

Yes. But how can a nst with a peak voltage of 3.75kv charge it without destroying it?