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### Author Topic: Capacitor Electrons Captor from Don Smith / Tesla  (Read 21553 times)

#### Vortex 22

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##### Re: Capacitor Electrons Captor from Don Smith / Tesla
« Reply #45 on: May 29, 2022, 05:47:17 PM »
OK Vortex, I just tried the experiment from a small UPS and it charges a 470uF cap at a rate of about 0.2V per minute.
What's next?

Edit:
Sorry but my time is up for today, will check later in about 5 hours...
Ok

The goal is to charge a capacitor bank rated 10 kW from open source?

But are pulling any current from your input?
Charging capacitor using voltage only?

For now
We are not interested in circuit quantities!!!
Interested in qualities only !!

Nom it's time to try to understand Don Smith formula for capacitor? And manipulate it

according to Don formula
How can we speed up the charging Cap process?

#### Vortex 22

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##### Re: Capacitor Electrons Captor from Don Smith / Tesla
« Reply #46 on: May 29, 2022, 06:09:43 PM »
Don Smith :

'' Capacitors and inductors store electrons temporarily. ( For free / open source )

Capacitor formula: W = 0.5 x C x E x Cycles per second where:

W = energy in Joules (Watt Seconds )
E = applied potential in volts squared.

Inductor (Coil) formula: W = 0.5 x L x I x Cycles per second where:
W = energy in Joules (Watt Seconds )
L = inductance in henrys
I = current in amperes squared

Both one henry, and one farad, equal one volt. The higher the cycles per second, including the squaring of
the flux lines, cause a large increase in the amount of energy being produced. ''

How can we speed up the charging Cap ? According to this Don formula?

#### Vortex 22

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##### Re: Capacitor Electrons Captor from Don Smith / Tesla
« Reply #47 on: May 29, 2022, 07:12:52 PM »
First Cap electrons captor feeding second capacitor electrons Captor!!!

9000 volts/ 35.1 kHz

Second Cap captor is powered by the first Captor + higher voltage and frequency !!! To charge capacitor bank high power ?

#### Vortex 22

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##### Re: Capacitor Electrons Captor from Don Smith / Tesla
« Reply #48 on: May 29, 2022, 07:37:54 PM »
In Don Smith tabletop device
The first capacitor electrons Captor rated at 4000 volts DC and 0.1 micro farads using two Caps ( are they connected in series or in parallel? In series
I think ...  I would prefer much smaller polar capacitor That's makes sense to me!!.... Do you think?

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##### Re: Capacitor Electrons Captor from Don Smith / Tesla
« Reply #49 on: May 29, 2022, 10:09:37 PM »
Here ya go:
https://i.postimg.cc/c4XFnVXY/Primarycapsdiodes.jpg

See you tomorrow in about 23 hours.

#### Vortex 22

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##### Re: Capacitor Electrons Captor from Don Smith / Tesla
« Reply #50 on: May 30, 2022, 03:24:51 AM »
Here ya go:
https://i.postimg.cc/c4XFnVXY/Primarycapsdiodes.jpg

See you tomorrow in about 23 hours.
Hello,
Are you referring to Don tabletop device photo?
Pulse cap and coil? That's not open circuit? If not then you know the reality of induction magnetic loses?

#### Vortex 22

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##### Re: Capacitor Electrons Captor from Don Smith / Tesla
« Reply #51 on: May 30, 2022, 05:27:34 PM »
Hi,
I have try the same setup but using two different input ( open circuit) and guess what?...

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##### Re: Capacitor Electrons Captor from Don Smith / Tesla
« Reply #52 on: May 30, 2022, 10:26:24 PM »
Hi, I posted that photo because you were guessing if caps were in series or in parallel. Well, there is no guess work needed it is obvious from the photos ( I'm posting previous photo again - had to remove it from that link):

https://i.postimg.cc/2yhQFdVL/Primarycapsdiodes.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/zB9wg2X1/don1.jpg

...but it is also true that Don said that this is not a working device and was put together just to see how the components would fit on the board.

About speeding up the charging, common sense tells me to up the voltage and frequency until managable limit, building one stage after another is also an option.

You would prefer smaller polar caps? What kind of polar caps - what voltage and uF, I think there is a reason Don made it the way it is.

#### am1ll3r

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##### Re: Capacitor Electrons Captor from Don Smith / Tesla
« Reply #53 on: May 31, 2022, 12:29:06 AM »
Simple experiment complete. Similar results.
Cheers!

#### Vortex 22

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##### Re: Capacitor Electrons Captor from Don Smith / Tesla
« Reply #54 on: May 31, 2022, 02:20:06 AM »
Hi, I posted that photo because you were guessing if caps were in series or in parallel. Well, there is no guess work needed it is obvious from the photos ( I'm posting previous photo again - had to remove it from that link):

https://i.postimg.cc/2yhQFdVL/Primarycapsdiodes.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/zB9wg2X1/don1.jpg

...but it is also true that Don said that this is not a working device and was put together just to see how the components would fit on the board.

About speeding up the charging, common sense tells me to up the voltage and frequency until managable limit, building one stage after another is also an option.

You would prefer smaller polar caps? What kind of polar caps - what voltage and uF, I think there is a reason Don made it the way it is.
Ok
Well, the basic idea is to charge a Cap from ground ( not from battery) and discharge it into one turn of primary coils ( Tesla coils)
On the secondary Coil the voltage and frequency is up to charge a capacitor bank?

Take care

#### Vortex 22

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##### Re: Capacitor Electrons Captor from Don Smith / Tesla
« Reply #55 on: May 31, 2022, 02:21:50 AM »
Simple experiment complete. Similar results.
Cheers!
Nice

#### tomd

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##### Re: Capacitor Electrons Captor from Don Smith / Tesla
« Reply #56 on: May 31, 2022, 01:22:13 PM »
If the caps are in parallel then the energy is 2843100 joules. That's 2.843100 MW if you can produce that many joules per second.
If the caps are in series the energy is 71077 joules. If that can be produced every second why do we need any more?

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##### Re: Capacitor Electrons Captor from Don Smith / Tesla
« Reply #57 on: May 31, 2022, 11:31:09 PM »
Hi tomd.

How did you get those wild numbers? From what I calculated it is about 112000 joules per second (I used double 35kHZ neon sign transformer output frequency, not taking into account LC Tank resonant frequency), but the power is al reactive in that stage - LC resonant tank - If you try to use it you drain the LC tank resonance and kill it.

#### Vortex 22

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##### Re: Capacitor Electrons Captor from Don Smith / Tesla
« Reply #58 on: June 01, 2022, 12:01:52 AM »
Hello,

You can do anything you want.

Should build two stages of capacitor electrons Captor!!!

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##### Re: Capacitor Electrons Captor from Don Smith / Tesla
« Reply #59 on: June 01, 2022, 12:15:48 AM »
Ok
Well, the basic idea is to charge a Cap from ground ( not from battery) and discharge it into one turn of primary coils ( Tesla coils)
On the secondary Coil the voltage and frequency is up to charge a capacitor bank?

Take care

Hi Vortex. Are you asking us questions? Aren't you supposed to be the one that knows this?
Anyway, what would you suggest as the next experiment?