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Title: Interesting machine
Post by: Question on May 08, 2022, 03:26:23 PM
What is your opinion about the device, which is described in the link below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYb5OkV6_Yo

Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: kolbacict on May 11, 2022, 10:56:15 AM
Look what an interesting patent.
Have anybody brought it to practical implementation?
https://patents-google-com.translate.goog/patent/US7379286?_x_tr_sl=en&_x_tr_tl=ru&_x_tr_hl=ru (https://patents-google-com.translate.goog/patent/US7379286?_x_tr_sl=en&_x_tr_tl=ru&_x_tr_hl=ru)
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: Tarsier_79 on May 11, 2022, 11:01:27 AM
I see nothing to get excited about.  different brightness bulbs do not prove anything, and is no proof of breaking laws of physics. Also, this could easily be faked by using different voltage light bulbs. If it were over-unity, they should be able to close the loop and get it to power itself.
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: Question on May 11, 2022, 03:04:38 PM
Tarsier_79 always avoids getting excited in order to preserve his health.:)
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: Question on May 11, 2022, 03:09:26 PM
There is an interesting comment of Peter Axe. He considers the black box of "upper" circuit 2 as "...an eternal and never-dying battery, which lasts forever and which never needs re-charging." Seems to be interesting.
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: e2matrix on May 11, 2022, 05:14:26 PM
It says it is for sale - where and how much?


Top of the patent translated and slightly modified to remove redundancy:



Quantum vacuum extractionenergy
Abstract
A system is disclosed for converting energy from the electromagnetic quantum vacuum, available anywhere in the universe, into usable energy in the form of heat, electricity, mechanical energy, or other forms of energy. By suppressing the energy of the electromagnetic quantum vacuum at the appropriate frequencies, it is possible to produce a change in the energy levels of the electron, which will lead to the emission or release of energy. It is known that modal suppression of electromagnetic quantum-vacuum radiation takes place in Casimir cavities. The Casimir cavity refers to any region in which electromagnetic modes are suppressed or limited. Thus, when atoms enter the appropriate Casimir microcavities, there is a decrease in the orbital energies of the electrons in the atoms. Such energy will be captured in the proposed devices. When leaving such Casimir microcavities, the atoms will be recharged by the electromagnetic quantum vacuum surrounding them. Thus, energy is extracted locally and replenished globally from the electromagnetic quantum vacuum. This process can be repeated an unlimited number of times. This process is also consistent with the conservation of energy in that all usable energy comes from the energy content of the electromagnetic quantum vacuum. Similar effects can be obtained by acting on molecular bonds. Devices are described in which gas is recirculated through a plurality of Casimir cavities. The disclosed devices are scalable in size and power output for applications ranging from small battery replacements to power plant-sized power generators. Thus, energy is extracted locally and replenished globally from the electromagnetic quantum vacuum.
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: ramset on May 11, 2022, 06:01:54 PM
So “Question”


A _Free Energy_ salesman (a principle..owner of product? Or …?


are you willing to help in the understanding of how this works?


Respectfully
Chet k



Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: skywatcher on May 11, 2022, 10:45:13 PM
What is your opinion about the device, which is described in the link below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYb5OkV6_Yo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYb5OkV6_Yo)

This video proves absolutely nothing.

It is has a COP of 4, as they claim, why do they still need input power ?
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: Question on May 12, 2022, 02:34:49 PM
1) First of all I would like to address skywatcher. If COP is 4, then the input power is 1W and the output power is 4 W. And from here 4 W - 1 W = 3 W. You have a surplus of 3 W, which can be used for selfrun when the device is looped.
2) Now I am answering e2matrix. About the sale and price. As if you want to buy the device? If so, then what is your bid price? What is the price for which you are willing to buy the black box of the "upper" circuit 2? (Let me remind again that the black box of the "upper" circuit 2 is actually an eternal and never-dying battery, (a) which never needs re-charging, (b) which makes the two right lamps glow much brighter than the two left lamps and (c) which is connected in parallel to the standard 12 V rectifier that powers the system.)
3) Answering ramset's post. You suggest collaboration? If so, then how exactly do you suggest to collaborate?
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: ramset on May 12, 2022, 03:03:14 PM
Sir Question,
Perhaps you went to fast upon entering to see the greeting on the door you
Entered

Quote

Welcome to OverUnity.com
The International Open Source Free Energy Research Forum

free energy  will change the world - free energy will stop all environmental pollution
Free energy will help to heal the planet earth.
In our disccusion forum www.overunity.com (http://www.overunity.com) we talk about all kinds of free energy and alternative
and renewable energy systems.
The world will soon be very green without any pollution and any chemical fuel polutants
with this new  technolgy.
What Tesla has begun in the 19th and 20th century we will now bring to
market in the 21th century.
With permanent magnet motors and Solid State magnet free energy convertes into the future.

free energy (http://www.overunity.com/) will give us hope
and we will not surrender until free energy (http://www.overunity.de/) will be enabled all over the world to power cars, ships and trains and
Free energy (http://www.overunity.com/) will help the poor to become independent of needing expensive fuels.

So all in all  Free energy (http://www.overunity.de/) will bring far more peace to the world than any other invention has already brought to the world.
End quote

Humanity our planet and a price negotiation?


Are you advancing new science or a bank account?


Open source of course!!


Respectfully
Chet K
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: AlienGrey on May 12, 2022, 03:55:29 PM
Yes your ignorance is some one else’s power! ive seen this concept a good few times on various you tube channels.

is all electricity is, is separating the positive from the negative and the potential between them is the stress.
the energy you use releases that stress and zero potential is where the electron is at rest.

I would like to know what device technique is being used here for best purity.

Sil
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: Cadman on May 12, 2022, 04:26:15 PM
Sir Question,
Perhaps you went to fast upon entering to see the greeting on the door you
Entered

Respectfully
Chet K

Don't you recognize Sir Question, or is he George1?
https://overunity.com/18134/a-simple-electric-heater-which-has-efficiency-greater-than-1/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKeAgdR-mu7bPihcr5Ilnww/videos

Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: Question on May 13, 2022, 12:17:20 PM
No, our initial intention was not to advance a bank account. On the contrary!
But the situation has changed dramatically. We (our team) still remember how George 1 was severely discredited and defamed a few months ago here in this forum. George 1 is a good friend of mine and a member of our team. Besides George 1 is a very sensitive man who was deeply hurt and insulted by the malicious and arrogant behaviour of some members of this forum.
So we (our team) decided to change our approach. We will not reveal anything anymore. We are already solely and only sellers. The black box never-needing-recharging battery (that belongs to the "upper" circuit 2) is for sale.
Please excuse me, ramset/Chet K. You are obviously an honest man of good will. But as if most humans are still at a lower stage of mental development and cannot extract from their minds hate, malice and envy. So they deserve to pay energy bills and be economic slaves of the global energy mafia. (The latter being one of George 1's favourite words.:))   
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: seychelles on May 13, 2022, 01:49:47 PM
THE ANSWER IS WHICH ONE HAS MORE ENERGY WITH RESPECT TO TIME.
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: seychelles on May 13, 2022, 01:55:51 PM
THAT IS WHY A JOULE THIEF AND DR STIFFLER CIRCUIT ARE SO EFFICIENT.
THEY BOTH SHOW THAT THE RATE OF CHANGE IS OF GREAT IMPORTANCE.
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: Ufopolitics on May 13, 2022, 04:04:48 PM

What is your opinion about the device, which is described in the link below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYb5OkV6_Yo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYb5OkV6_Yo)

Hello Question,

The "Device" on the video is very interesting, in my opinion,

Analyzing the attempt on the video to point out the differences between circuit #1 & #2...and to anyone "skilled in the Arts"...would've noticed the lowest illuminated circuit black box have a small "tuning" knob, dialed to the Minimal settings (like most potentiometers work, turning left will dim...turning right will decrease resistance, hence more illumination)...while the circuit with full brightness do not have a knob...(it could have been set to "Max Power" internally.

And so, the Mid Bulbs trying to give Us the justification (without meters) that both Sources are identical...and are not "tricked" by using bulbs being of higher and lower resistance on their filaments) which would compensate for equal brightness...

Supposedly (since we can not see any meters, showing V&A [Power,Watts] Parameters) we then have to assume they are playing truthfully, and supplying exactly the same amounts of power to both circuits...right?

However, like I wrote before...supposing all Inputs are identical...anyone skilled in the Arts, can "interpret" and "debunk" this "supposed phenomena" easily...as any "booster" small circuit, tuned properly, can increase the frequency of the currents, brighting the light bulbs more than the 12V Power Source would.

As also the Circuit #2 could also be "extra powered" by a very small Lithium Iron/Fe/Boron Battery...or even Small Super caps...with the properly electronic. well designed and "Elegant" circuit...

What I am trying to say...is that there are many ways to trick this simple video...just to hit views, just to gain attention...like there are sooo many videos showing so wonderful fantasies in You Tube...and they are all fake!!

No, our initial intention was not to advance a bank account. On the contrary!
But the situation has changed dramatically. We (our team) still remember how George 1 was severely discredited and defamed a few months ago here in this forum. George 1 is a good friend of mine and a member of our team. Besides George 1 is a very sensitive man who was deeply hurt and insulted by the malicious and arrogant behaviour of some members of this forum.
So we (our team) decided to change our approach. We will not reveal anything anymore. We are already solely and only sellers. The black box never-needing-recharging battery (that belongs to the "upper" circuit 2) is for sale.
Please excuse me, ramset/Chet K. You are obviously an honest man of good will. But as if most humans are still at a lower stage of mental development and cannot extract from their minds hate, malice and envy. So they deserve to pay energy bills and be economic slaves of the global energy mafia. (The latter being one of George 1's favourite words. :) )

Now, after reading your further posts, I realized that you are not just a "Newbie" with just five posts...interested in knowing opinions "randomly" about something that is also intriguing him...or her...and listening to some people who could be enlightening to him/her.

So, nope, that was not the case...You are part of the Team making this device and trying to sell it here...and btw, Ireally feel sorry by what happened to George 1...

I particularly hate whenever I get intruders, posting whatever B.S and trying to discredit or whatever ways to minimize what you are showing, revealing, disclosing...or simply, posting non related B.S...

That is the reason WHY, I would NOT disclose "nada", nothing, unless I previously had chosen and approved (by Administrator of the Site) to build my own Thread and Sub-Threads, where I would be the Moderator, and a big PERIOD after that!!

Then I would be able to ERASE, BAN, DELETE at my simple CHOICE, and "at large" whoever I am pleased to...So, I will be the EXTERMINATOR of these Plagues!!

So, let me say that You guys may have not handled properly your previous Disclosure here...and leaving doors open to ALL kind of Rats, and all type of PESTS, that, unfortunately...crowd Public Places like this that have a very good intention, are full of...some are just "paid Shills"...doing their job...while others are just plain and simple A$$ holes.

But getting back to Your Device...and granting that ALL IS REAL, not faked, not a "trick"...but You Guys just found out that by (maybe) adding layers of some alloys, could bring Us this phenomena...just like Arie De Geus Infinite Battery did a few years back...

Btw, De Geus did not have a "happy ending"...and He Patented his invention (Read the Articles below...You may not have heard of him)...

So, You guys found it...and so, what do we do with a small black box, that whenever opened we see a bunch of layers of weird materials...and some small wires coming off from it?

Take it to a Lab?, paying very high $um$ of money to decode all materials involved, all atomic and molecular bonds?

My counseling is...(If You are not trying to fill up your Bank Accounts, like you have said above)...then expose it properly, in a Moderated Thread...sell a book on details of "How to Build it"...
as also selling "samples"...you will raise some funds to  expand your research.

Sorry for the long post...it was just my opinion and my two copper pennies.


Regards


Ufopolitics


ARIE DE GEUS, INVENTOR OF THE INFINITE BATTERY (http://www.rexresearch.com/degeus/degeus.htm)
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: ramset on May 13, 2022, 07:16:12 PM
UFO
This fellow George burned through genuine helpers
And cried wolf ( 100’s of times …. Millions of words …


That being said
Yes sharing an experiment ( for clarity..I am recalling now tons of “ math proof” in handwritten
Snapshots..from George ( dozens of repetitious posts daily for …a year or more ?
Fighting with napkin math as “proof”


Now there is a build ( posted in this topic )
Perhaps a builders board with claims and replications ?


 Here I shared this recently in another thread ( old news at this and other forums from years back
http://www.lovellpatentedtechnology.com/monothermal/what_is_monothermal.html (http://www.lovellpatentedtechnology.com/monothermal/what_is_monothermal.html)


Another researcher had sent me a question few days ago on lovell
And was there ever a replication?

BTW
Yes Arie
A brilliant man looking to sell his work….Peter at Overunity research translated many of his patents.


Open source ( in some way …?
We need it 100 years ago !!
Respectfully
Chet K
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: stivep on May 13, 2022, 10:02:16 PM
I see nothing to get excited about.  different brightness bulbs do not prove anything, and is no proof of breaking laws of physics. Also, this could easily be faked by using different voltage light bulbs. If it were over-unity, they should be able to close the loop and get it to power itself.
I agree

______________________________________
What is your opinion about the device, which is described in the link below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYb5OkV6_Yo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYb5OkV6_Yo)
there are two different devices and concepts when compared to :
https://patents-google-com.translate.goog/patent/US7379286?_x_tr_sl=en&_x_tr_tl=ru&_x_tr_hl=ru (https://patents-google-com.translate.goog/patent/US7379286?_x_tr_sl=en&_x_tr_tl=ru&_x_tr_hl=ru)

___________________________________
THE ANSWER IS WHICH ONE HAS MORE ENERGY WITH RESPECT TO TIME.
It is known that electromagnetic waves with a high frequency possess a greater amount of energy than waves with lower frequencies ,but not signals in the wire,
why-do-high-frequency-waves-have-high-energy (https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/425653/why-do-high-frequency-waves-have-high-energy#:~:text=It%20is%20known%20that%20electromagnetic%20waves%20with%20a,wave%20is%20the%20product%20of%20two%20independent%20factors%3A)
_____________________________________________
Quote from: Question on May 08, 2022, 03:26:23 PM (https://overunity.com/19110/interesting-machine/msg566708/#msg566708)What is your opinion about the device, which is described in the link below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYb5OkV6_Yo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYb5OkV6_Yo)

The "Device" on the video is very interesting, in my opinion,
Sorry do disappoint you.
It is not until................ it is proven  opposite.
Example:
In Film  Industry all LED lamps are made based on pulsing pixels ( pixel=single LED)
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/buy/LED-Light-Sources/ci/12248 (https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/buy/LED-Light-Sources/ci/12248)
https://www.ledsfilm.com/led-lighting-the-advantages-for-filmmaking/ (https://www.ledsfilm.com/led-lighting-the-advantages-for-filmmaking/)_____________________
Radar can operate on MW and GW power impulses long ms or ns or ps  or fs having power supply made from "single pack of 12V battery."

Always energy delivered to the system is grater than energy at output of the system.
There is no exclusion from that rule.

However:
-if that energy is used to power the motor  opening valve on the water pipe connected to the River
than you have Free Energy as River flow pays for that water energy.
Wesley
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: Question on May 14, 2022, 12:26:14 PM
No high-frequency electromagnetic waves, no LED-lamps, no tricks. Read carefully the explanatory text in the video.
We will not try to convince anybody in anything.
The black box is for sale.

Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: stivep on May 14, 2022, 01:17:51 PM
No high-frequency electromagnetic waves, no LED-lamps, no tricks. Read carefully the explanatory text in the video.
We will not try to convince anybody in anything.
I agree with you that:
-no LED-lamps,
-no tricks
 if we dealing with unintended "trick" where author of it believes that it is not a trick
Definition:

trick [trɪk]NOUN a cunning act or scheme intended to deceive or outwit someone
https://www.lexico.com/definition/trick (https://www.lexico.com/definition/trick)


Explanation:
if brightness of the light source is a result of PWM
https://www.kompulsa.com/introduction-pwm-pulse-width-modulation-works/ (https://www.kompulsa.com/introduction-pwm-pulse-width-modulation-works/)
and tools for energy in / out measurement  are your own eyes, than  light at OUTput (output) might be brighter than light connected at  INput  ( input)
 or:
 if without any PWM the  two lightbulbs at the OUTput are Tungsten based resistors connected
in parallel than light intensity will increase twice .
The black box is for sale.
Oh good. It'll make some money for the  guy, before it is measured, and some more money before is eventually rejected.
The primary question is:
if we assume for reason of the  thought experiment that there is the gain there than
what that energy comes from?
https://www.bing.com/ck/ (https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=7fca137d2d924bf1cb96e9970dc92629ec6bafd51eb8f42967890aeca4c08c01JmltdHM9MTY1MjUyNzIyMSZpZ3VpZD1iMTcwZTMwMS1jNDIzLTQwYTEtYWRlOS0yMzA5Yjc4MTk5ZTAmaW5zaWQ9NTM1Nw&ptn=3&fclid=d75895fa-d377-11ec-aec0-cc9add877e6d&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly9lbi53aWtpcGVkaWEub3JnL3dpa2kvVGhvdWdodF9leHBlcmltZW50Izp-OnRleHQ9QSUyMHRob3VnaHQlMjBleHBlcmltZW50JTIwaXMlMjBhJTIwaHlwb3RoZXRpY2FsJTIwc2l0dWF0aW9uJTIwaW4sR2VybWFuJTIwdGVybSUyMEdlZGFua2VuZXhwZXJpbWVudCUyMCUyOGxpdC4lMjB0aG91Z2h0JTIwZXhwZXJpbWVudCUyOSUyMGNpcmNhJTIwMTgxMi4&ntb=1)

1 Law of Newton/thermodynamics:
Energy can't be created nor destroyed
https://www.bing.com (https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=c46aff30c7a61f2a6c8fe90b349413ddebd19afb34a712741254bd41c3043f8aJmltdHM9MTY1MjUyNjk3NiZpZ3VpZD1hMTg4MGRhNy1iNDY5LTRmMjAtYTI4OC03MjEyZjVmMjhlNzYmaW5zaWQ9NTMxNw&ptn=3&fclid=45296950-d377-11ec-ba32-33ab717854f3&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmFydGxleWxhd29mZmljZS5jb20vdXNlZnVsL3doaWNoLWxhdy1zdGF0ZXMtdGhhdC1lbmVyZ3ktY2Fubm90LWJlLWNyZWF0ZWQtb3ItZGVzdHJveWVkLmh0bWwjOn46dGV4dD1BcyUyMHdlJTIwa25vdyUyMHRocm91Z2glMjB0aGVybW9keW5hbWljcyUyQyUyMGVuZXJneSUyMGNhbm5vdCUyMGJlLGVuZXJneSUyMGFyZSUyMHR3byUyMHJ1bmdzJTIwb24lMjB0aGUlMjBzYW1lJTIwbGFkZGVyLg&ntb=1)
Wesley
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: Question on May 14, 2022, 02:02:10 PM
The pulse duration modulation has nothing to do with the business. It is used only to regulate/control the brightness of the lamps without losses.
If we remove the pulse duration modulation system, then the eight lamps will behave just in the same manner. That is, all four lamps of the "lower" circuit 1 and the two left lamps of the "upper" circuit 2 will glow again with the same brightness while the two right lamps of the "upper" circuit 2 will glow again much brighter. Read carefully the explanatory text in our video.
The black box is for sale.
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: Question on May 14, 2022, 02:14:41 PM
And even more clearly. (For those who are not illiterate.)
--------------------------------------------------------------------
1) Have a look again at our video. The configuration is as follows:
12 V rectifier => two left lamps => black box => two right lamps.
2) The black box is an eternal and never-dying battery, which never needs re-charging and which is connected in parallel to the rectifier.
3) The black box makes the two right bulbs glow much brighter than the two left bulbs.
4) If we replace the black box with a standard battery, then this standard battery must be periodically re-charged or replaced (with new one) in order to keep bigger the brightness of the two right bulbs.
5) The black box eternal and never-dying (forever-lasting, never-needing-recharging, etc.) battery is for sale.
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: stivep on May 14, 2022, 02:27:33 PM
The pulse duration modulation has nothing to do with the business. It is used only to regulate/control the brightness of the lamps without losses.
If we remove the pulse duration modulation system, then the eight lamps will behave just in the same manner. That is, all four lamps of the "lower" circuit 1 and the two left lamps of the "upper" circuit 2 will glow again with the same brightness while the two right lamps of the "upper" circuit 2 will glow again much brighter. Read carefully the explanatory text in our video.
The black box is for sale.


It doesn't count,
it doesn't matter
and is not important to the audience, 
how much you try to defend a product or your own
money making system.
I wish you success in selling shit or gold I don't care my friend.


Physicist doesn't care much what is inside of a Black box
Every  illusionist knows his tricks.
For physicist your device "doesn't work" (= is not conformed)
or
For physicist looking at your "working" device presentation - your device "doesn't work" (= is not conformed)
unless one or at best  two factors are explained, checked, known and  independently verified.
1. what additional energy at output of the device comes from ( originates)
2. precise measurement done independently by credible  entity or  reported by number of
    happy clients recognized by community (recognized -  involved crowd)

-if that didn't happened you are still in your fantasy world my friend.

You may produce video  showing light  energy calculation, measurement,vs energy consumed ,
including equipment used to  perform it.( at best  with calibration stickers on it)
that helps to some point to promote your sale,
But if it than is rejected by measurement made by others than from position of
 uneducated fool, or just a dreamer  there is only transition to rejection and accusation in your address.

Wesley
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: Question on May 14, 2022, 03:18:10 PM
stivep, you are not reading my posts at all.
I am sending again the text of my last post especially for you.
==========================
BEGINNING OF THE TEXT
==========================
1) Have a look again at our video. The configuration is as follows:
12 V rectifier => two left lamps => black box => two right lamps.
2) The black box is an eternal and never-dying battery, which never needs re-charging and which is connected in parallel to the rectifier.
3) The black box makes the two right bulbs glow much brighter than the two left bulbs.
4) If we replace the black box with a standard battery, then this standard battery must be periodically re-charged or replaced (with new one) in order to keep bigger the brightness of the two right bulbs.
5) The black box eternal and never-dying (forever-lasting, never-needing-recharging, etc.) battery is for sale.
===========================
END OF THE TEXT
===========================
Simply carry out the experiment described in item 4 on your kitchen table. Where is here the trick? Where is here the illusion? Where is here the cheat? What are you talking about?
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: stivep on May 14, 2022, 03:31:37 PM
stivep, prepare the money and I will send you the black box never-needing-recharging battery. :)
. :)
_______________________________________________________
You have full rights of  being innocently right or wrong
as long as you don't deal with other people money.

once somebody put money in you,
invests in the idea,
supports you in any way and gets disappointed
you are really becoming a "negative value"

______________________________________________________
it was a time when I was trying to say that humanity, give them Free Energy,
and all of it for free. I've got very much disappointed with the outcome.
People don't care.
they don't respect free although they want everything for free or for less.

Example:

I gave them perfectly working technology, very much explained but not in 100%,so say 97%.
It is backed  with science, facts, the practical experience, practical tests, theory, calculations, experiments,
they don't want to do it, unless it is in the form of the device ready to be purchased with an instruction manual.

So screw them all said Dr Hans  my friend and partner.
we both are interested in science, and science only, we are not manufacturers traders nor in needs to become one.

_______________________________________________
But you have no money as you are simply a poor hater

Another mistake that you made here on this forum
In the purchase value of just the electron microscopes in two labs the is over $1 million,
-in their actual value much less
but of course it doesn't include the value of the labs and equipment in it.
___________________________________________
you bumped into the group of thinkers :
it is me
Dr. Roy
and Dr. Hans
if you need it then give me some time and I post here some links to  let you  verify it by yourself,

Wesley
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: Question on May 14, 2022, 03:35:02 PM
Ok, ok I am sorry.
But stivep, you are not reading my posts at all.
I am sending again the text of my last post especially for you.
==========================
BEGINNING OF THE TEXT
==========================
1) Have a look again at our video. The configuration is as follows:
12 V rectifier => two left lamps => black box => two right lamps.
2) The black box is an eternal and never-dying battery, which never needs re-charging and which is connected in parallel to the rectifier.
3) The black box makes the two right bulbs glow much brighter than the two left bulbs.
4) If we replace the black box with a standard battery, then this standard battery must be periodically re-charged or replaced (with new one) in order to keep bigger the brightness of the two right bulbs.
5) The black box eternal and never-dying (forever-lasting, never-needing-recharging, etc.) battery is for sale.
===========================
END OF THE TEXT
===========================
Simply carry out the experiment described in item 4 on your kitchen table. Where is here the trick? Where is here the illusion? Where is here the cheat? What are you talking about?
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: stivep on May 14, 2022, 03:44:02 PM
[,, wait
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: Question on May 14, 2022, 03:47:10 PM
stivep, simply carry out the experiment described in item 4 on your kitchen table. The configuration is as follows:
12 V rectifier => 2 left lamps => 12 V standard battery => 2 right lamps
The 12 V rectifier and the 12 V standard battery are connected in parallel.
The 2 right lamps glow much brighter than the 2 left lamps.
But after a certain period of time (several hours) the 2 right lamps and the 2 left lamps are glowing already with the same brightness and you have to re-charge the battery or replace it with a new one.
Simply repeat the above described simple experiment. Use another voltage if you like and whatever bulbs you want. (But all four bulbs must be identical.)
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: stivep on May 14, 2022, 03:53:33 PM
I don't care that is not a proof of any kind, whatsoever.

__________________________________

The primary question is:
if we assume for reason of the  thought experiment that there is the gain there than
what that energy comes from?
https://www.bing.com/ck/ (https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=7fca137d2d924bf1cb96e9970dc92629ec6bafd51eb8f42967890aeca4c08c01JmltdHM9MTY1MjUyNzIyMSZpZ3VpZD1iMTcwZTMwMS1jNDIzLTQwYTEtYWRlOS0yMzA5Yjc4MTk5ZTAmaW5zaWQ9NTM1Nw&ptn=3&fclid=d75895fa-d377-11ec-aec0-cc9add877e6d&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly9lbi53aWtpcGVkaWEub3JnL3dpa2kvVGhvdWdodF9leHBlcmltZW50Izp-OnRleHQ9QSUyMHRob3VnaHQlMjBleHBlcmltZW50JTIwaXMlMjBhJTIwaHlwb3RoZXRpY2FsJTIwc2l0dWF0aW9uJTIwaW4sR2VybWFuJTIwdGVybSUyMEdlZGFua2VuZXhwZXJpbWVudCUyMCUyOGxpdC4lMjB0aG91Z2h0JTIwZXhwZXJpbWVudCUyOSUyMGNpcmNhJTIwMTgxMi4&ntb=1)
1 Law of Newton/thermodynamics:
Energy can't be created nor destroyed
https://www.bing.com (https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=c46aff30c7a61f2a6c8fe90b349413ddebd19afb34a712741254bd41c3043f8aJmltdHM9MTY1MjUyNjk3NiZpZ3VpZD1hMTg4MGRhNy1iNDY5LTRmMjAtYTI4OC03MjEyZjVmMjhlNzYmaW5zaWQ9NTMxNw&ptn=3&fclid=45296950-d377-11ec-ba32-33ab717854f3&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmFydGxleWxhd29mZmljZS5jb20vdXNlZnVsL3doaWNoLWxhdy1zdGF0ZXMtdGhhdC1lbmVyZ3ktY2Fubm90LWJlLWNyZWF0ZWQtb3ItZGVzdHJveWVkLmh0bWwjOn46dGV4dD1BcyUyMHdlJTIwa25vdyUyMHRocm91Z2glMjB0aGVybW9keW5hbWljcyUyQyUyMGVuZXJneSUyMGNhbm5vdCUyMGJlLGVuZXJneSUyMGFyZSUyMHR3byUyMHJ1bmdzJTIwb24lMjB0aGUlMjBzYW1lJTIwbGFkZGVyLg&ntb=1)


answer the question if you can.
__________________________________

Physicist doesn't care much what is inside of a Black box
Every  illusionist knows his tricks.
For physicist your device "doesn't work" (= is not conformed)
or
For physicist looking at your "working" device presentation - your device "doesn't work" (= is not conformed)
unless one or at best  two factors are explained, checked, known and  independently verified.
1. what additional energy at output of the device comes from ( originates)
2. precise measurement done independently by credible  entity or  reported by number of
    happy clients recognized by community (recognized -  involved crowd)

-if that didn't happened you are still in your fantasy world my friend.

You may produce video  showing light  energy calculation, measurement,vs energy consumed ,
including equipment used to  perform it.( at best  with calibration stickers on it)
that helps to some point to promote your sale,
But if it than is rejected by measurement made by others than from position of
 uneducated fool, or just a dreamer  there is only transition to rejection and accusation in your address.

Wesley
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: Question on May 14, 2022, 04:03:05 PM
stiveup, stop beating about the bush and simply repeat our REAL (NOT THOUGHT!) experiment on your kitchen table. And report your experimental results here in this forum. 
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: stivep on May 14, 2022, 04:44:24 PM
stivep, stop beating about the bush
I didn't know that you are from UK area.
beat about the bush
:
To speak vaguely or euphemistically so as to avoid talking directly about an unpleasant or sensitive topic. Primarily heard in UK.
________________________________
You didn't respond to the question.

The primary question is:
if we assume for reason of the  thought experiment that there is the gain there than
what that energy comes from?
https://www.bing.com/ck/ (https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=7fca137d2d924bf1cb96e9970dc92629ec6bafd51eb8f42967890aeca4c08c01JmltdHM9MTY1MjUyNzIyMSZpZ3VpZD1iMTcwZTMwMS1jNDIzLTQwYTEtYWRlOS0yMzA5Yjc4MTk5ZTAmaW5zaWQ9NTM1Nw&ptn=3&fclid=d75895fa-d377-11ec-aec0-cc9add877e6d&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly9lbi53aWtpcGVkaWEub3JnL3dpa2kvVGhvdWdodF9leHBlcmltZW50Izp-OnRleHQ9QSUyMHRob3VnaHQlMjBleHBlcmltZW50JTIwaXMlMjBhJTIwaHlwb3RoZXRpY2FsJTIwc2l0dWF0aW9uJTIwaW4sR2VybWFuJTIwdGVybSUyMEdlZGFua2VuZXhwZXJpbWVudCUyMCUyOGxpdC4lMjB0aG91Z2h0JTIwZXhwZXJpbWVudCUyOSUyMGNpcmNhJTIwMTgxMi4&ntb=1)
1 Law of Newton/thermodynamics:
Energy can't be created nor destroyed
https://www.bing.com (https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=c46aff30c7a61f2a6c8fe90b349413ddebd19afb34a712741254bd41c3043f8aJmltdHM9MTY1MjUyNjk3NiZpZ3VpZD1hMTg4MGRhNy1iNDY5LTRmMjAtYTI4OC03MjEyZjVmMjhlNzYmaW5zaWQ9NTMxNw&ptn=3&fclid=45296950-d377-11ec-ba32-33ab717854f3&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmFydGxleWxhd29mZmljZS5jb20vdXNlZnVsL3doaWNoLWxhdy1zdGF0ZXMtdGhhdC1lbmVyZ3ktY2Fubm90LWJlLWNyZWF0ZWQtb3ItZGVzdHJveWVkLmh0bWwjOn46dGV4dD1BcyUyMHdlJTIwa25vdyUyMHRocm91Z2glMjB0aGVybW9keW5hbWljcyUyQyUyMGVuZXJneSUyMGNhbm5vdCUyMGJlLGVuZXJneSUyMGFyZSUyMHR3byUyMHJ1bmdzJTIwb24lMjB0aGUlMjBzYW1lJTIwbGFkZGVyLg&ntb=1)


answer the question if you can.
__________________________________

and simply repeat our REAL (NOT THOUGHT!) experiment on your kitchen table.
And report your experimental results here in this forum.
Start to understand one thing.
I am paying to my guys to do the job.I'm doing the experiment if am convinced that it makes us to benefit from it


It is Saturday, and I am spending my time to help you, not to criticize everybody around who disagree with your opinion.
I'm not convinced to go to my lab, not even to test your idea on the equipment I have (-run me} in the office lab.
there is why  I suggested thought experiment backed with your answer to the question, in hope that I'm going to become more convinced. But you didn't provide the answer for a simple question
What the energy in your device making light bulbs to manifest more energy at the output comes from?
that cannot be more easy question for you to answer.

Wesley
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: stivep on May 14, 2022, 05:01:31 PM
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg561594/#msg561594 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg561594/#msg561594) 
here you can see my electron microscopes  I was talking about in my previous post

https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/dlattach/attach/183922/image// (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/dlattach/attach/183922/image//)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/dlattach/attach/183923/image// (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/dlattach/attach/183923/image//)
________________
here is my office lab with(-run me}equipment around
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg562296/#msg562296 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg562296/#msg562296)

and the pictures with explanation of the device giving you free energy for free
from from a Schumann waveguide,
These devices were free technologies for free and explanations were free ,
similarity between us is that:
you're trying to promote your device for sale.
I don't so I don't promote but nobody wants to build it either,

-for me your device is not a fake yet because it wasn't proved that fake and you are not yet officially a fake maker.
-my device  cannot become a fake because nobody misleads or makes money on it, So I'll never become a faker.

_______________________________________________________

 and this is me in lab:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNxob3yY4LE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNxob3yY4LE)
https://youtu.be/izzujmKROWI?t=88 (https://youtu.be/izzujmKROWI?t=88)
https://youtu.be/GdlkeI0bXy4  (https://youtu.be/GdlkeI0bXy4)

Wesley
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: Question on May 15, 2022, 01:21:35 PM
Well, it's obvious that I'll have to teach some members of this forum a basic electric engineering lesson. (And more precisely, several lessons.)
======================================
LESSON 1.
1) Four identical bulbs are connected in series to a standard 12 V rectifier thus forming a circuit.
2) These four identical bulbs are bulb 1, bulb 2, bulb 3 and bulb 4, respectively.
3) Bulb 1 is connected immediately after the plus (+) terminal of the rectifier and bulb 4 is connected immediately after the minus (-) terminal of the rectifier. (Bulb 1 and bulb 4 correspond to the two left bulbs in our video and bulb 2 and bulb 3 correspond to the two right bulbs in our video.)
4) The circuit is closed and a direct current flows through the bulbs. All four bulbs glow with the same brightness.
5) Let us use in addition a standard pulse duration modulation system (of constant frequency of 50 Hz for example), which generates 50 identical rectangular current pulses 50 times per second. In this case all four bulbs glow again with the same (but smaller) brightness. The four bulbs are dimmer.
6) The above simple experiment has been carried out hundreds (and may be thousands) of times in our laboratories. You can also repeat this simple experiment even on your kitchen table.
======================================
Learn well LESSON 1 and then we will proceed further with LESSON 2.
======================================
P. S. Wesley/stivep, I am watching now your videos. You seem to be a smart and serious man. (Hope this face is yours.:)) Why don't you join our team?:) 
   
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: Question on May 16, 2022, 01:35:02 PM
Hope you have learnt well LESSON 1.
Let us now proceed further with our short educational course in basic electric engineering.
Let us now proceed with LESSON 2.
======================================
LESSON 2.
1) A standard 12 V battery is connected in parallel to the 12 V rectifier.
2) The battery is situated between the two left bulbs (bulb 1 and bulb 4) and the two right bulbs (bulb 2 and bulb 3). In other words, the position of the battery corresponds to the position of the black box of the "upper" circuit 2 in our video.
3) The 12 V standard battery makes the two right bulbs (bulb 2 and bulb 3) glow much brighter than the two left bulbs (bulb 1 and bulb 4).
4) After a certain period of time (several hours of uninterrupted work) however the battery goes dead (is discharged) and all four bulbs glow again with the same brightness. (Please refer to previous LESSON 1.)
5) In order to make again the two right bulbs (bulb 2 and bulb 3) glow much brighter than the two left bulbs (bulb 1 and bulb 4) you have either to re-charge the battery or replace it with a new one.
6) The above simple experiment has been carried out hundreds (and may be thousands) of times in our laboratories. You can also repeat this simple experiment even on your kitchen table.
======================================
Learn well LESSON 2 and revise LESSON 1.
And after that we will proceed further with LESSON 3.
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: skywatcher on May 16, 2022, 06:55:45 PM
And even more clearly. (For those who are not illiterate.)
--------------------------------------------------------------------
1) Have a look again at our video. The configuration is as follows:
12 V rectifier => two left lamps => black box => two right lamps.
2) The black box is an eternal and never-dying battery, which never needs re-charging and which is connected in parallel to the rectifier.
3) The black box makes the two right bulbs glow much brighter than the two left bulbs.
4) If we replace the black box with a standard battery, then this standard battery must be periodically re-charged or replaced (with new one) in order to keep bigger the brightness of the two right bulbs.
5) The black box eternal and never-dying (forever-lasting, never-needing-recharging, etc.) battery is for sale.

If it is a 'never-dying battery' why does it require external power ?

'The box is for sale'
Sorry, but i don't think anybody will buy your box, based on what can be seen in your video. It proves absolutely nothing. If you want to sell anything, i would propose you build at least 10 of these boxes, and give them to trustworthy people for testing. People who are well-known, like Stefan (the admin of this forum), for example. If they confirm that it works, you will get more orders for your box than you could deliver.

What is the price of your box ?
You could also send it to me, and i will test it. If it works, i will pay you double the price. If it doesn't work, i will send it back and you will get nothing.
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: kolbacict on May 17, 2022, 11:30:42 AM
Do you remember it?  ;)
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: Question on May 17, 2022, 12:21:52 PM
Hope you have learnt well LESSON 1 and LESSON 2.
Let us now proceed further with last LESSON 3.
=======================================
LESSON 3.
1) The standard 12 V battery is replaced with a black box and this is actually the "upper" circuit 2 in our video.
2) The black box of the upper circuit 2 is a forever-lasting battery, (a) which never needs re-charging and (b) which makes the two right bulbs (bulb 2 and bulb 3) glow much brighter than the two left bulbs (bulb 1 and bulb 4) for a practically infinite period of time.
=======================================
Learn well lessons 1, 2 and 3 and just after that try to start any discussion. Hope all we here in this forum are searching honestly for the truth.:)
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: Question on May 17, 2022, 12:31:03 PM
To skywatcher.
-------------------------
Firstly, learn very, very well lessons 1, 2 and 3. This is an extremely important requirement for the proper understanding of what really happens. (Because it is more than evident that you have not even looked at these three lessons.)
And secondly, what is the price for which you are willing to buy the black box?:) 
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: stivep on May 17, 2022, 01:16:09 PM
To skywatcher.
-------------------------
Firstly, learn very, very well lessons 1, 2 and 3. This is an extremely important requirement for the proper understanding of what really happens. (Because it is more than evident that you have not even looked at these three lessons.)
And secondly, what is the price for which you are willing to buy the black box? :)
You decided to act as a preacher.
I thought  we can have intelligent discussion.
You  however ignored answer to the question ,as if it was never given to you  twice.

I didn't know that you are from UK area.
beat about the bush
:
To speak vaguely or euphemistically so as to avoid talking directly about an unpleasant or sensitive topic. Primarily heard in UK.
________________________________
You didn't respond to the question.

The primary question is:
if we assume for reason of the  thought experiment that there is the gain there than
what that energy comes from?
https://www.bing.com/ck/ (https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=7fca137d2d924bf1cb96e9970dc92629ec6bafd51eb8f42967890aeca4c08c01JmltdHM9MTY1MjUyNzIyMSZpZ3VpZD1iMTcwZTMwMS1jNDIzLTQwYTEtYWRlOS0yMzA5Yjc4MTk5ZTAmaW5zaWQ9NTM1Nw&ptn=3&fclid=d75895fa-d377-11ec-aec0-cc9add877e6d&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly9lbi53aWtpcGVkaWEub3JnL3dpa2kvVGhvdWdodF9leHBlcmltZW50Izp-OnRleHQ9QSUyMHRob3VnaHQlMjBleHBlcmltZW50JTIwaXMlMjBhJTIwaHlwb3RoZXRpY2FsJTIwc2l0dWF0aW9uJTIwaW4sR2VybWFuJTIwdGVybSUyMEdlZGFua2VuZXhwZXJpbWVudCUyMCUyOGxpdC4lMjB0aG91Z2h0JTIwZXhwZXJpbWVudCUyOSUyMGNpcmNhJTIwMTgxMi4&ntb=1)
1 Law of Newton/thermodynamics:
Energy can't be created nor destroyed
another link is here: https://overunity.com/19110/interesting-machine/msg566964/#msg566964

It usually works in this forum  like this:
If a user  intentionally  promotes commercial aspect of the device on sale  ignoring
to respond to the questions  of community members than:
I may start to act as a moderator
or
another moderator may be involved
or
Admin may decide to act.
please provide the answer to the question .
__________________________________
Wesley
get involved.

Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: stivep on May 17, 2022, 01:28:07 PM
..
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: Question on May 17, 2022, 02:14:16 PM
Hi Wesley/stivep,
Please do not be angry, my friend.:)
I am withdrawing my proposal for selling here in this forum especially for you.:)
I am stopping immediately promoting the commercial aspect of the device here in this forum especially for you.:)
But how to make 1,000,000 black boxes for example (where to get the money from?) and give them freely to the poor thus saving the world from the coming energy catastrophe?
What is your answer?
Regards,
Question
---------------------------
P. S. And let me again ask my previous question: Would you like to become a member of our team?:)
 
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: kolbacict on May 17, 2022, 04:18:52 PM
But how to make 1,000,000 black boxes for example (where to get the money from?) and give them freely to the poor thus saving the world from the coming energy catastrophe?
I know how. Tell me what's inside, I make it for myself, and I can still make another one for my neighbor. :)
And so far I haven't been able to do anything.
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: AlienGrey on May 17, 2022, 04:50:44 PM
Hmm, let's just go back to the thread tittle electric cars, Tesla didn't have any large capacity battery.

The other thing is petrol is taxed to high heaven in Eu, so if you charge your EC at home how does the tax man
rip off the tax ? what's hidden for any one with an Electric car ?

Sil
 
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: ramset on May 17, 2022, 05:19:27 PM
Actually
Skywatcher makes good point !


There are members globally who could verify !


And a few open source forum administrators!
And yes scientists globally!


Or poster of this topic could do what seems his favorite pastime, taunt members
And feign …..( to be teaching while harvesting funds from membership ??)


Here a working anything will be shared ( this forum does not play hide and seek , never has
Nor is there an all  knowing persona who never delivers …( anything that actually works as advertised !


Respectfully
Chet K







Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: skywatcher on May 17, 2022, 10:01:59 PM
Hi Wesley/stivep,
Please do not be angry, my friend. :)
I am withdrawing my proposal for selling here in this forum especially for you. :)
I am stopping immediately promoting the commercial aspect of the device here in this forum especially for you. :)
But how to make 1,000,000 black boxes for example (where to get the money from?) and give them freely to the poor thus saving the world from the coming energy catastrophe?
What is your answer?
Regards,
Question
---------------------------
P. S. And let me again ask my previous question: Would you like to become a member of our team? :)

Why starting with 1 000 000 boxes ? 


No new product has ever started with 1 000 000 pieces for the first production.
Why not starting with 100 or 1000 ?  For first evaluation. Every prototype has potential for improvement, even if it works.
Nobody will do anything after watching your videos, with black boxes and little lightbulbs. Sorry, that's hilarious.
Make 10 boxes, and send them to 10 forum members for testing. That's how it works.
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: Question on May 18, 2022, 01:03:41 PM
To kolbacict.
---------------------------------
Well, there is a full description of the black box, which consists of more than 100 pages of explanatory text, drawings and formulas. This detailed description has to be somehow shortened and simplified. And this shortening and simplifying process will take some time.
Are you sure that you could make the device? Are you enough qualified? What is your qualification? (Please do not be angry.:) I am only asking a question. If I have insulted you in some way, then please excuse me. I am ready to apologise.)       
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: Question on May 18, 2022, 01:06:59 PM
To ramset and to AlienGray.
---------------------------------------------
But what are you suggesting exactly? Please be a little more specific, if possible.
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: Question on May 18, 2022, 01:12:57 PM
To skywatcher.
------------------------------------
So how many black boxes do you want to be made by our team after all? 1000? 100? 10? 
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: ramset on May 18, 2022, 02:25:30 PM
Question
It is no suggestion, you posted here for years and we’re moderated
Now you come back with different user name and for sale sign !
In a forum which has no advertising!


Members have been robbed this way !


Will you send unit to Stefan for testing ?


you chose his house to sell your unverified gizmo ?


Not a negotiation …since there are legal liabilities attached to your actions here  ( to your/our host )
A sincere experimenter ( selling in another mans house ) would not hesitate to prove unit is as advertised !
And submit working product to our host for verification and testing prior to soliciting!!


Respectfully
Chet


Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: Question on May 18, 2022, 02:52:31 PM
But dear ramset, dear colleague, your last post seems to be vague and unclear again.
Let me ask you a few questions. Who is Stefan? Is this Stefan Hartmann (Admin.)? Or may be it is a matter of another person, whose name is Stefan too? Suppose we are ready to send the unit to Stefan for testing (as you suggest), but who is this Stefan actually?
Please try to make your posts a little clearer and a little more understandable, if possible. Please! :)   
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: ramset on May 18, 2022, 03:28:22 PM
Stefan is person who moderated you before !
You read top of page next to administrator


sign you walked past as
You entered his house !


To sell your unproven product to highest
Bidder !


Your scientific team seems to be lacking in most basic
Skills and awareness!
Edit for below !
Mr George and Questionable friends
Not a bit angry


Was hopeful you were sincere , I see when faced with
Proper testing of your whatsit ?
You withdraw..







 

Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: Question on May 18, 2022, 04:15:53 PM
But ramset, why are you so aggressive? :)
1) Firstly, I already declared clearly that I had withdrawn my proposal for selling of the black box here in this forum. You are not reading my posts at all. Please read them carefully, if possible!
2) Secondly, I would like to thank you for your explanation for who is Stefan, that was mentioned in one of your previous posts.
---------------------------------------------
And don't be angry, my friend, because it is harmful for your health. :)
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: skywatcher on May 18, 2022, 07:24:51 PM
To skywatcher.
------------------------------------
So how many black boxes do you want to be made by our team after all? 1000? 100? 10?

It depends... it has to be verified somehow, and the more people verify it, the better.

As you already said, replication by others is always difficult. One small wrong detail is enough and it might not work. I would never try to replicate anything before it has been proven to work. It's difficult even for proven technology, and it's almost impossible for new technology which is not fully understood. I don't know of even a single case where anyone was able to successfully replicate any 'free energy device'. So sending working devices to independent testers is the only way to prove the functionality. After it has been proven, a proper documentation should be made to enable successful replication.
Title: Re: Interesting machine
Post by: AlienGrey on May 21, 2022, 06:54:15 PM
Here is a device I made years ago, don't get thinking it's magic it just does it with this circuit.
and it's not over unity at all ! ha ha !