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Author Topic: Interesting machine  (Read 4374 times)

Offline ramset

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Re: Interesting machine
« Reply #45 on: May 17, 2022, 05:19:27 PM »
Actually
Skywatcher makes good point !


There are members globally who could verify !


And a few open source forum administrators!
And yes scientists globally!


Or poster of this topic could do what seems his favorite pastime, taunt members
And feign …..( to be teaching while harvesting funds from membership ??)


Here a working anything will be shared ( this forum does not play hide and seek , never has
Nor is there an all  knowing persona who never delivers …( anything that actually works as advertised !


Respectfully
Chet K








Offline skywatcher

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Re: Interesting machine
« Reply #46 on: May 17, 2022, 10:01:59 PM »
Hi Wesley/stivep,
Please do not be angry, my friend. :)
I am withdrawing my proposal for selling here in this forum especially for you. :)
I am stopping immediately promoting the commercial aspect of the device here in this forum especially for you. :)
But how to make 1,000,000 black boxes for example (where to get the money from?) and give them freely to the poor thus saving the world from the coming energy catastrophe?
What is your answer?
Regards,
Question
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P. S. And let me again ask my previous question: Would you like to become a member of our team? :)

Why starting with 1 000 000 boxes ? 


No new product has ever started with 1 000 000 pieces for the first production.
Why not starting with 100 or 1000 ?  For first evaluation. Every prototype has potential for improvement, even if it works.
Nobody will do anything after watching your videos, with black boxes and little lightbulbs. Sorry, that's hilarious.
Make 10 boxes, and send them to 10 forum members for testing. That's how it works.

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Re: Interesting machine
« Reply #47 on: May 18, 2022, 01:03:41 PM »
To kolbacict.
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Well, there is a full description of the black box, which consists of more than 100 pages of explanatory text, drawings and formulas. This detailed description has to be somehow shortened and simplified. And this shortening and simplifying process will take some time.
Are you sure that you could make the device? Are you enough qualified? What is your qualification? (Please do not be angry.:) I am only asking a question. If I have insulted you in some way, then please excuse me. I am ready to apologise.)       

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Re: Interesting machine
« Reply #48 on: May 18, 2022, 01:06:59 PM »
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But what are you suggesting exactly? Please be a little more specific, if possible.

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Re: Interesting machine
« Reply #49 on: May 18, 2022, 01:12:57 PM »
To skywatcher.
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So how many black boxes do you want to be made by our team after all? 1000? 100? 10? 

Offline ramset

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Re: Interesting machine
« Reply #50 on: May 18, 2022, 02:25:30 PM »
Question
It is no suggestion, you posted here for years and we’re moderated
Now you come back with different user name and for sale sign !
In a forum which has no advertising!


Members have been robbed this way !


Will you send unit to Stefan for testing ?


you chose his house to sell your unverified gizmo ?


Not a negotiation …since there are legal liabilities attached to your actions here  ( to your/our host )
A sincere experimenter ( selling in another mans house ) would not hesitate to prove unit is as advertised !
And submit working product to our host for verification and testing prior to soliciting!!


Respectfully
Chet



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Re: Interesting machine
« Reply #51 on: May 18, 2022, 02:52:31 PM »
But dear ramset, dear colleague, your last post seems to be vague and unclear again.
Let me ask you a few questions. Who is Stefan? Is this Stefan Hartmann (Admin.)? Or may be it is a matter of another person, whose name is Stefan too? Suppose we are ready to send the unit to Stefan for testing (as you suggest), but who is this Stefan actually?
Please try to make your posts a little clearer and a little more understandable, if possible. Please! :)   

Offline ramset

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Re: Interesting machine
« Reply #52 on: May 18, 2022, 03:28:22 PM »
Stefan is person who moderated you before !
You read top of page next to administrator


sign you walked past as
You entered his house !


To sell your unproven product to highest
Bidder !


Your scientific team seems to be lacking in most basic
Skills and awareness!
Edit for below !
Mr George and Questionable friends
Not a bit angry


Was hopeful you were sincere , I see when faced with
Proper testing of your whatsit ?
You withdraw..







 


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Re: Interesting machine
« Reply #53 on: May 18, 2022, 04:15:53 PM »
But ramset, why are you so aggressive? :)
1) Firstly, I already declared clearly that I had withdrawn my proposal for selling of the black box here in this forum. You are not reading my posts at all. Please read them carefully, if possible!
2) Secondly, I would like to thank you for your explanation for who is Stefan, that was mentioned in one of your previous posts.
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And don't be angry, my friend, because it is harmful for your health. :)

Offline skywatcher

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Re: Interesting machine
« Reply #54 on: May 18, 2022, 07:24:51 PM »
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So how many black boxes do you want to be made by our team after all? 1000? 100? 10?

It depends... it has to be verified somehow, and the more people verify it, the better.

As you already said, replication by others is always difficult. One small wrong detail is enough and it might not work. I would never try to replicate anything before it has been proven to work. It's difficult even for proven technology, and it's almost impossible for new technology which is not fully understood. I don't know of even a single case where anyone was able to successfully replicate any 'free energy device'. So sending working devices to independent testers is the only way to prove the functionality. After it has been proven, a proper documentation should be made to enable successful replication.

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Re: Interesting machine
« Reply #55 on: May 19, 2022, 01:36:41 PM »
Hi skywatcher,
Thank you for your reply.
Yes, you are absolutely right and I perfectly agree with all you have written in your last post. 
But some question appears again anyway. Assume for example that you personally (as well as some other members of this forum) have already verified unambiguously the proper working of the black box just as described in the video. Then what will be our next step? How will we proceed further?
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
Question
       

Offline AlienGrey

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Re: Interesting machine
« Reply #56 on: May 21, 2022, 06:54:15 PM »
Here is a device I made years ago, don't get thinking it's magic it just does it with this circuit.
and it's not over unity at all ! ha ha !

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Re: Interesting machine
« Reply #57 on: May 22, 2022, 01:37:59 PM »
Here is again the link to our video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYb5OkV6_Yo
Please consider carefully and thoroughly the 3-steps procedure below, which additionally explains in some different manner the essence of our invention, and which is situated just below our video.
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STEP 1.
1) Four identical bulbs are connected in series to a standard 12 V rectifier thus forming a circuit.
2) These four identical bulbs are bulb 1, bulb 2, bulb 3 and bulb 4, respectively.
3) Bulb 1 is connected immediately after the plus (+) terminal of the rectifier and bulb 4 is connected immediately after the minus (-) terminal of the rectifier. (Bulb 1 and bulb 4 correspond to the two left bulbs in our video and bulb 2 and bulb 3 correspond to the two right bulbs in our video.)
4) The circuit is closed and a direct current flows through the bulbs. All four bulbs glow with the same brightness.
5) Let us use in addition a standard pulse duration modulation system (of constant frequency of 50 Hz for example), which generates 50 identical rectangular current pulses 50 times per second. In this case all four bulbs glow again with the same (but smaller) brightness. The four bulbs are dimmer.
6) The above simple experiment has been carried out hundreds (and may be thousands) of times in our laboratories. You can also repeat this simple experiment even on your kitchen table.
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STEP 2.
1) A standard 12 V battery is connected in parallel to the 12 V rectifier.
2) The battery is situated between the two left bulbs (bulb 1 and bulb 4) and the two right bulbs (bulb 2 and bulb 3). In other words, the position of the battery corresponds to the position of the black box of the "upper" circuit 2 in our video.
3) The 12 V standard battery makes the two right bulbs (bulb 2 and bulb 3) glow much brighter than the two left bulbs (bulb 1 and bulb 4).
4) After a certain period of time (several hours of uninterrupted work) however the battery goes dead (is discharged) and all four bulbs glow again with the same brightness. (Please refer to previous STEP 1.)
5) In order to make again the two right bulbs (bulb 2 and bulb 3) glow much brighter than the two left bulbs (bulb 1 and bulb 4) you have either to re-charge the battery or replace it with a new one.
 6) The above simple experiment has been carried out hundreds (and may be thousands) of times in our laboratories. You can also repeat this simple experiment even on your kitchen table.
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STEP 3.
1) The standard 12 V battery is replaced with a black box and this is actually the "upper" circuit 2 in our video.
2) The black box of the upper circuit 2 is a forever-lasting battery, (a) which never needs re-charging and (b) which makes the two right bulbs (bulb 2 and bulb 3) glow much brighter than the  two left bulbs (bulb 1 and bulb 4) for a practically infinite period of time.
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Re: Interesting machine
« Reply #58 on: May 25, 2022, 01:07:06 PM »
Dear moderator,
What happens here? Why my posts are not published in this forum?
I have already clearly declared that I withdraw my proposal for selling of the black box. Neither business nor any other commercial approach.
Besides I would like to apologize if I have broken some rules of this forum and/or if I have insulted some member of this forum.
 

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Re: Interesting machine
« Reply #59 on: May 27, 2022, 01:01:20 PM »
Dear AlienGrey,
Your last post seems to me a deliberate cheat, which has been adjusted especially for me? :)