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Author Topic: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build  (Read 20529 times)

Offline captainpecan

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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #120 on: May 05, 2022, 07:58:04 PM »
Quote from: kolbacict on May 05, 2022, 03:48:01 PM
I also get a similar asymmetrical picture.
Although if you calculate the integral area of the positive and negative EMF, I think it will be symmetrical. I hope you got what I meant...
In general, it is interesting to play with this device. :)
The rotor you have there, did you cast that in wax, or is it resin? Looks like a nice quick easy rotor build for a specific experiment.
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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #121 on: May 05, 2022, 08:33:18 PM »
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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #122 on: May 05, 2022, 09:12:55 PM »
I tested this on an air coil to eliminate core influence possibilities.  I can reproduce the effect with an air coil. Current wave looks all correct- and powering it, I can get movement in the direction current is flowing.

Coil does not have to be as big as I first thought. My rough tests suggest making the coil size the circumference of the rotor is about the sweet spot that will pull it in the hardest and keep the sine wave in perfect shape.

I am able to expand the window substantially by playing with the core poles and bringing the top one down and still preserving the current direction.. But that's for future experimentation.

First I need to wind a coil the right size and see if I can get rotation in the right direction with induced current. I think I can do it.
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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #123 on: May 06, 2022, 12:12:32 AM »
I wound a bifilar coil and started testing.   I'm testing with paralleling the leads now- but I will try series later.  For testing I need some amperage.

 I am liking the action with 1/2 core the best.  With half a core, I can get a good 42-43 degree jolt going in the right direction.  I think I can get this jolt 2 times per rotation, so collecting just under 1/4  (about 86 degrees total) of the rotation cycle. And I can "almost" get the peak.  It seems the coil's inductance is working for me (not against) only in this nice sized window.  At other parts of the rotation, it works against me, so the coil will need to be switched off at those times.

I know I can get it to spin with this, because I made it spin in the right direction hand-timing - -  turning on / off the supply..  With a hall sensor, I can make it cook I'm sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGa1rJ4CNFU

I plan to have 2 of these coils on either side of the rotor, and 2 rotors also.  So we can times this force by about 4

Addition-  Just tried series and it works as good if not better with wayyy  less wattage

I think I am reversing Lenz with this configuration in this 42 degree window



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« Reply #124 on: May 06, 2022, 02:01:29 AM »
Yes, I can get the kick 2 times per rotation.  1 time per 1/2 cycle.

What I think is happening-  By extending the core half way down the middle- the middle core has more flux surrounding it and is more powerful than an air core pole.  The air core pole wants to hold it back and attract- but the core above also wants to attract the rotor (because it is inside and the polarity works because it's on the other side of the coils) - and the steel core is more powerful, so it overpowers the bottom pole's holding force and pulls it right through the bottom pole that restricts us.  The more induction we build- the more this action will give back..

For those thinking it's happening because the magnet is attracted to the steel- Here's a video showing this is not the case. Also a step by step showing all..  Including my theory what's happening.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZApkQde6Ym8

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« Reply #125 on: May 06, 2022, 02:15:01 AM »
I assumed you were going to like series better as far as wattage. Have you tried hooking them in series opposite? I assume it will really hinder the performance since the magnetic field would be fighting itself, but this is all a good learning experience. Just curious if something totally out of the ordinary would happen because backwards stuff seems to work differently at times confusing us. Who knows?
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« Reply #126 on: May 06, 2022, 02:20:58 AM »
Quote from: captainpecan on May 06, 2022, 02:15:01 AM
I assumed you were going to like series better as far as wattage. Have you tried hooking them in series opposite? I assume it will really hinder the performance since the magnetic field would be fighting itself, but this is all a good learning experience. Just curious if something totally out of the ordinary would happen because backwards stuff seems to work differently at times confusing us. Who knows?

Yeah I tried both ways.  One way series pulls .3 amps.  Opposite way pulls .8 amps.  The .3 watts sounds a lot better and works just as good.  Paralleling them all takes like 1.4 amps.

I am printing out a timing wheel now to glue magnets into to trigger hall sensors to collect / pulse in the window.  I chose 40 degrees collection window this first run.. 
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« Reply #127 on: May 06, 2022, 06:21:39 AM »
I have been thinking about getting a 3d printer. Do you mind sharing any info if you like yours or would have chosen something else? They are getting pretty reasonable priced now, but I don't know if the cheaper ones are worth it or not.
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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #128 on: May 06, 2022, 06:45:04 AM »
Quote from: captainpecan on May 06, 2022, 06:21:39 AM
I have been thinking about getting a 3d printer. Do you mind sharing any info if you like yours or would have chosen something else? They are getting pretty reasonable priced now, but I don't know if the cheaper ones are worth it or not.

I got a knockoff of an ender 3.  It's a Longer and it's OK..  The Ender 3 is cheaper than the longer now.  I replaced many parts on it but it's still chuggin away. I design in tinkercad and use cura slicer. Both free.

Regarding my motor-  I got 1 hall sensor hooked up only pulsing once per rotation and I can get up close to 300 RPM in the same direction as the input current..  I have an another entire window to pulse in to get these RPM's up. Tomorrow I will be tweaking.. 
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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #129 on: May 06, 2022, 07:04:21 AM »
Hopefully you can keep that current down a bit as well. RPM may be cool, but there is way more to the equation. After all, you can have a 100 rpm motor rip an arm off, and a 30,000 rpm motor you can stop by barely touching! I think tweaked a bit, you can get way more efficient than your adams motor with what you have learned. Keep plugging away!
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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #130 on: May 06, 2022, 09:21:43 AM »
Quote from: gyulasun on May 03, 2022, 03:20:16 PM

What if you replace your electromagnet with an actuator arm?  The arm would move up and down vertically and its bottom would be glued to the diaphragm of a loudspeaker. 
I have no doubt that it would work. The loudspeaker is the same electromagnet, what's the difference? If a magnet could be moved without using any energy...
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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #131 on: May 06, 2022, 04:39:31 PM »
Quote from: kolbacict on May 06, 2022, 09:21:43 AM
I have no doubt that it would work. The loudspeaker is the same electromagnet, what's the difference? If a magnet could be moved without using any energy...
Hi kolbacict, 

Yes, a loudspeaker coil is also an electromagnet but the big difference is that in your V gate setup the electromagnet is influenced by the rotating V gate magnets directly, giving unwanted inductions that the input power should defeat and this process (direct Lenz) normally gives under 100% efficiency or COP < 1.   

If you remove the input coil from the rotor magnets to avoid direct induction, chances are much better to reduce Lenz effect. If you wish, read through the links to the pages I gave earlier.

See this fantastic double spiral motor assembly, built by member Honk here:   

https://overunity.com/3456/f-b-d-i-s-s-m-flux-boosted-dual-induction-split-spiral-motor/msg267139/#msg267139     

and read his story on the failure first here:   

https://overunity.com/3456/f-b-d-i-s-s-m-flux-boosted-dual-induction-split-spiral-motor/msg267144/#msg267144     and then here   

https://overunity.com/3456/f-b-d-i-s-s-m-flux-boosted-dual-induction-split-spiral-motor/msg267796/#msg267796   

Gyula   
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« Reply #132 on: May 06, 2022, 11:31:17 PM »
Great Progress!!!!

Finally got it tweaked and inducing current the same way as pulsing, I can go 600+ RPM and my Power Supply input is 32 Volts, 0.00 amps!

It's been going 40 minutes now and it stays at 0.00 amps input. I am not saying it is running itself, but I am pretty sure I found my window of opportunity.  More copper and magnets and who knows!  I have a good feeling about it..

See it in action and stabilized at 0.00 amps input.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11vtctId6UY

The trick is a small 2" piece of rebar floating in the lower half off the ground by about 2".  It sucks the magnet right past the sticky point creating a nice window to collect / pulse.
Since there is no core on the top- it sails out with little resistance. And of course it is switched to only pulse / collect in the window.



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« Reply #133 on: May 07, 2022, 12:14:14 AM »
Your power supply will say 0 amps if it is less than 10ma. You would need to hook an amp meter in line with it to know actual power consumption. But either way, it is running on very little wattage. Looking positive.
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« Reply #134 on: May 07, 2022, 12:50:28 AM »
Quote from: captainpecan on May 07, 2022, 12:14:14 AM
Your power supply will say 0 amps if it is less than 10ma. You would need to hook an amp meter in line with it to know actual power consumption. But either way, it is running on very little wattage. Looking positive.

Yeah- once I am all dialed in- I will check it.. I am not saying it can run itself.  :-X

Now 1340 RPM-  More than double!   Still 0.00 Amps... (registering on PS)

Last video I only had 1 hall sensor pulsing once per rotation.  Now I am pulsing twice- once in each window per rotation..  Those are my only windows to get it to rotate in this direction.  So if it's gonna get any better- needs more copper / magnet power..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQwYI9eNLGY
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