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Author Topic: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build  (Read 12827 times)

Offline floodrod

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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2022, 07:56:19 PM »
Rotation Outside the coil also works.

Coil needs to extend past rotor


Edit-  I had the magnet direction wrong..  I'm going to show the right way.  hold tight
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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2022, 11:08:29 PM »
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpEyIP0TSu4

All lenz is neutralized.  Current flows 1 way with each magnet pass.

Switch the coils at gain moments.  Should work...

Note-  I think 4 pole rotor should work with no drag also. BUT you lose the chance to switch the coils for gain.
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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2022, 03:07:45 AM »
One thing to keep in mind. Current only flowing in 1 direction does not mean no drag. Because the direction that current will run, is the drag. That current induced by the magnet, will generate a magnetic field in opposition to the field that created it. The best way to get a handle on this very frustrating beast, is to do exactly what you are doing. Hitting the bench! Also one of drawings above is the newman motor. Bedini window motor also is same configuration.


Keep it flowing!

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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2022, 04:10:24 AM »
One thing to keep in mind. Current only flowing in 1 direction does not mean no drag. Because the direction that current will run, is the drag.

I believe the video you sent me to watch pointed this configuration out at 38-39 minutes.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6H3RymQC7g

"If the coil is bigger than the magnets and the rotor does not pass over the edge, there can be zero cogging lenz in this configuration."  .  The same magnet pole can make the current flow in either way - the whole pass. 

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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2022, 04:25:50 AM »
I follow what you are getting at now. He is explaining a theory I think of letting the coil pulse align the magnet so all goes in same direction. Interesting. But would be fun trying to actually do it.

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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2022, 04:32:14 AM »
It all depends on the direction of the coil turns or the direction of the rotation..

One way it SUCKS..  Other way it's the best thing since sliced bread.

Running a magnet one way causes the current to flow the same direction the entire pass.  And you can choose what direction the coil is at what magnet by which direction you rotate the rotor.

Do I want the my North Magnet to enter on the coils North Pole or South Pole.... 

But again- the coil needs to be fully over the magnet and never pass the edge.

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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2022, 04:50:28 AM »
And putting the rotor IN the coil is the end all be all.  You get the FULL South and North forces at peak, and both sides of the coil are optimized.

Rotor can only have 2 polarities.  N and S. 

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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2022, 05:52:26 AM »
Edit- magnet can not be in the coil.
« Last Edit: April 29, 2022, 05:43:39 PM by floodrod »

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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2022, 02:56:09 PM »
Hi Floodrod.


I don't want to discourage you because you are learning a lot.  But you still seem to have a problem understanding Lenz.  Your example in the last post about rotating a magnet one way that doesn't cause Lenz is clearly wrong.  But you need to build it yourself so that you can understand better.  Anytime there is current generated there WILL be Lenz.  Anything you do to reduce Lenz will also reduce the ability to generate current.  Your only hope is to be able to use Lenz in a way that will help rotation.  But as far as I know,  after many many years of research by many many people including myself NO one has found a way to do that.  Maybe you will be the one to do that if you keep trying new ideas.


In your example if you rotate the magnet one way it will generate current in one direction in the coil.  If you rotate it the other way it will generate current in the coil in the opposite direction.  Either way will still generate the Lenz effect if you try to draw current from the coil.


Keep testing and experimenting.  That is the only way to get a better grasp of how things work.


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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2022, 03:16:29 PM »
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« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2022, 01:39:12 AM »
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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2022, 02:01:26 AM »
I'm sorry, but that is not how Lenz works still. I think what you are stuck on is thinking that with the magnet inside the coil, since the poles of the magnet are opposing and the winding they each see are opposite, that this adds in the motion. Honestly, it just allows generation on both sides well. But the current that moves through the wire because of it, still opposes both sides of the magnet. Double induction, double Lenz. Lenz actually IS the current in the wire. That's what generates it. When you see a waveform on your scope, that simply means there is induction happening. That doesn't mean Lenz is not there. The fact that you see the wave at all, tells you there is Lenz there. The trick like citfa is trying to explain to you is to understand it, amd find a way to redirect it so that it aids. With the coil changes you are making, it is possible you could completely cancel Lenz. But when you do, you killed all the current because that is what creates it. No current, no Lenz, but also no power, just potential.

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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #29 on: April 30, 2022, 02:15:59 AM »
I'm sorry, but that is not how Lenz works still. I think what you are stuck on is thinking that with the magnet inside the coil, since the poles of the magnet are opposing and the winding they each see are opposite, that this adds in the motion. Honestly, it just allows generation on both sides well. But the current that moves through the wire because of it, still opposes both sides of the magnet. Double induction, double Lenz. Lenz actually IS the current in the wire. That's what generates it. When you see a waveform on your scope, that simply means there is induction happening. That doesn't mean Lenz is not there. The fact that you see the wave at all, tells you there is Lenz there. The trick like citfa is trying to explain to you is to understand it, amd find a way to redirect it so that it aids. With the coil changes you are making, it is possible you could completely cancel Lenz. But when you do, you killed all the current because that is what creates it. No current, no Lenz, but also no power, just potential.

Edit- Captain is right. Magnet i coil= great induction but lens at full force.
« Last Edit: April 30, 2022, 05:27:45 AM by floodrod »