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Author Topic: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build  (Read 8764 times)

Offline floodrod

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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #60 on: May 01, 2022, 03:52:46 PM »
And I think magnet inside the coil, is even better. Same philosophy. Pulsing the coil spins the magnet very easy because of optimal flux alignment. And spin the right way, it will work in the same direction as the input current making it possible to get more out from the induction created from the spinning magnet then needed to put in to spin the magnet.

Edit. I am not 100% sure of this yet. Maybe wrong maybe right

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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #61 on: May 01, 2022, 05:39:10 PM »
Okay I had it a little backwards. No need for a collection coil at all. Just a driver which acts as both.

Pulsing the coil will set direction of flux in coil. You have the ability to cause the rotor to rotate clockwise or counterclockwise depending on when you pulse. The magnet tries to align with the coil polarity, causing the rotor to spin. Nothing new here.

Since this coil configuration causes only one way current with no flips, you can work against your input current or with your input current depending on which way you spin the rotor.

Essentially, you use input current to spin the rotor in the correct direction that the spinning magnets are adding to the induction instead of fighting it. It is possible to build more induction in the coil from the magnet spinning than induction required to spin the magnet.
Now I think you are grasping what he was referring to in that video better now.


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And I think magnet inside the coil, is even better. Same philosophy. Pulsing the coil spins the magnet very easy because of optimal flux alignment.
You basically described the joseph newman motor. Not sure the exact pulse time alignment as that, but same build. There are a ton of people who have made that design you can look at on YouTube to see its operation and learn from others work. But the timing of their pulse may make the difference. As with this concept, I think you are maybe hunting a pulse that both gives the push and the pull at the same time, but also attempting to have Lenz do the same, all in the same direction. It seems the pulses would be sent more out of alignment to attempt taking advantage of the spin. Almost like maybe pulsing out of conventional alignment. Not sure where the pulse is best for that one.

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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #62 on: May 01, 2022, 06:11:47 PM »
Yeah. He certainly was going after Newman's theories..

I just need to stumble around in a dark until I understand it. But once I find the light, I well know all the ins and outs of it and can build it.

No video or textbook could have made it so clear in my head as actually making all the mistakes to get there along the way.

I will be looking at the videos now of other builds. I am still contemplating about magnet inside the coil, I cannot get it to work on paper. But I know one of his designs had the magnet in the middle

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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #63 on: May 01, 2022, 06:37:59 PM »
Yeah, one thing to keep in mind as well. He is sharing info he has learned from his bench work. That does not mean he figured it all out yet either. But, he certainly has a better understanding of the underlying physics than we do yet. That video is also 4 years old. That is Russ from Zero Fossil Fuels and he has been around forever in this industry. He has a very good understanding of the nature involved in what we do. Learning from his successes and failures is a very good step. That series he put out has a ton of good info in there.

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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #64 on: May 01, 2022, 08:16:55 PM »
Yeah, one thing to keep in mind as well. He is sharing info he has learned from his bench work. That does not mean he figured it all out yet either. But, he certainly has a better understanding of the underlying physics than we do yet. That video is also 4 years old.
That is Russ from Zero Fossil Fuels and he has been around forever in this industry. He has a very good understanding of the nature involved in what we do. Learning from his successes and failures is a very good step. That series he put out has a ton of good info in there.


That is indeed Russ whose video you referred to but Zero Fossil Fuel is another person.  See the text from Russ under this video:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42un77XxTg0   

Russ runs the RWG Research Lab https://rwgresearch.com/   and his forum is this:  https://open-source-energy.org/   

Ok? 


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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #65 on: May 01, 2022, 08:29:08 PM »
Sorry to interrupt
However Russ would probably be available for input here ( can be contacted if necessary?)
He is also steadfast open source fellow!
Respectfully
Chet
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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #66 on: May 01, 2022, 08:35:14 PM »

Well Russ is a member here  8)    https://overunity.com/7030/stanley-meyer-explained/msg511643/#msg511643  Probably a heads up could be made towards him.

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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #67 on: May 01, 2022, 08:55:26 PM »


That is indeed Russ whose video you referred to but Zero Fossil Fuel is another person.  See the text from Russ under this video:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42un77XxTg0   

Russ runs the RWG Research Lab https://rwgresearch.com/   and his forum is this:  https://open-source-energy.org/   

Ok?
Oh crap, I confused myself. I had just been watching another video from zero fossil fuels just prior to that comment... lol.

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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #68 on: May 02, 2022, 02:05:09 AM »
I am still convinced there is helping action here drawing power with this configuration.

We can all agree current travels only  1 direction the whole pass if we do not cross the edge of the coil. Which means travel of magnet over the coil - the polarity of the coil stays the same the whole way. I can show this- also Russ shows this many many times.

Take A and B..  Same direction of travel and same polarity of coil.  If A isn't going to happen, Neither is B...  If A does happen- then B happens also.

Now take C and D.  Again, same direction of travel and here will will assume the opposite polarity coil..   Whatever happens to C will also happen to D.

Does anyone see what I am saying?  If there is Full Drag with C then there is No Drag with D.

It is my bet that A and B are both Incorrect.  And C and D are correct


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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #69 on: May 02, 2022, 02:53:14 AM »
Even better yet- I can make either of these happen by flipping the coil..     I can get current to flow either direction I want the whole pass (going in the same direction of travel)..


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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #70 on: May 02, 2022, 03:09:03 AM »
Looks like it's an actual bench test that will answer your question best. BTW, did you happen to remove the 2nd coil just to get a set of baseline numbers to compare to? You know, rpm, volts and amps. Then whatever you test, you have a much better idea of what the results mean overall.

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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #71 on: May 02, 2022, 03:25:18 AM »
Looks like it's an actual bench test that will answer your question best. BTW, did you happen to remove the 2nd coil just to get a set of baseline numbers to compare to? You know, rpm, volts and amps. Then whatever you test, you have a much better idea of what the results mean overall.

I was planning on doing the air coil test to get accurate results I can trust.  I got copper ordered...  But what I am seeing now-  ummmmmmmm.........

Reciprocate a magnet inside a coil..  Don't go past the edge of the coil...  You can switch lenz to either work for you or against you by flipping the coil direction.  And magnet inside the coil is awesome induction..

watch-  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI0HDG6naO0

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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #72 on: May 02, 2022, 04:03:39 AM »
I am in contact with Russ via email.  I am asking him if what I am seeing in that vid is what I think it is.  If he replies again- I will post his reply

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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #73 on: May 02, 2022, 04:17:49 AM »
I dont think flipping the coil is only changing the Lenz law effect direction. All that does is simply flipping the polarity. You flip the induction as well as the back emf. Both. So you get the same result, it's just opposite polarity because the wire is running opposite direction.

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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #74 on: May 02, 2022, 05:15:55 AM »
I dont think flipping the coil is only changing the Lenz law effect direction. All that does is simply flipping the polarity. You flip the induction as well as the back emf. Both. So you get the same result, it's just opposite polarity because the wire is running opposite direction.

Makes sense-   If the front of the coil was south the other end was north already. (i overlooked that)      Flipping it did nothing.  Lol...  It the line stayed the same direction both sides, then that would have been promising

So either way- it was like the image below regardless which direction the coil was.  Which is still good for rotation i think.

I will do the air coil bench test soon enough