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Author Topic: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build  (Read 9077 times)

Offline floodrod

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Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« on: April 27, 2022, 04:01:06 AM »
Floodrod's Etheric Generator

I been hunting for an action that creates usable electrical current with the condition that there is a window of "helping reaction" from the coil's generated flux.   Which possibly makes it feasible to switch the coil at exact times to harness the power of the coil's flux to work for us while eliminating "fluxing" the parts of motion that work against us.

I do believe I found a method that meets my criteria. Perhaps I am overlooking something - but I think it is my best idea yet. (yet so simple)

I will be investing time and materials in this new research / build. I do hope this concept strike a chord with others who will participate. 

Why is it an "etheric generator"?  - I got the idea for this by imagining flux around a coil as an "Ether Bubble".   You will see in the 6 minute  video.

The motion required to produce this possible opportunity of harvest is not the most desirable nor efficient. But if this meets my criteria of having the coil flux assist in power generation + possibly allowing me to only pick out the parts of gain- then so be it. 

If my idea is not debunked, maybe other minds can help think how to improve the motion to create this window of opportunity more efficiently.

« Last Edit: April 27, 2022, 12:57:35 PM by floodrod »

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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2022, 08:37:33 AM »
I like where you are going with your research. The bubble explanation is a little different than what happens though I believe. It's not actually pulling you in, it's slowing you down. The slower it goes, the less it effects it. The less it effects it, the less amount of current is generated. Maybe think of it instead of like a bubble sucking everything in, it's more like a high friction bubble I would say. No matter what direction you move near and in that bubble, it will slow you down. I think that may describe it a little better. The fast short movement could be very effective though if done correctly. The current is generated by the CHANGE in the magnetic field cutting the turns of the coil. You don't have to move it far to cause a good change in the field. Short fast movement will generate pretty well also. Certainly an area worth understanding better by working it out on the bench.


There is however something I am seeing in what you are talking about the reminds me of a micro generator I made many years ago, but never did anything with it because at the time I had no idea how to boost the voltage enough to get through diodes and store it. I came up with a way to generate energy from wasted vibrations and movements of any kind. I may have to revisit that again now that I have more knowledge and resources to figure that stuff out. Picture this... I had some 3/4" disc magnets. I took a piece of PVC pipe, I think at the time I used 1.5" size, but you just need one that the magnets can move freely inside. I cut 2 rings out of the pipe. Stretched a balloon over the mouth of one of them. I put the other ring on top so that the stretched balloon was between the two and I taped it all up good with duct tape making 1 tube with a rubber diaphram in between the two. I then put magnet inside the tubes on both sides of the rubber and let them stick together on both sides pinching the rubber between them. Now I aligned the magnets in the center of the tube. Now a tiny vibration of the table makes the magnets bounce up and down. I then wrapped the pipe in magnet wire turning the whole thing into a coil with bouncing magnets in the middle. Hook it to a multimeter and you will see it generating off of very tiny movements. It works awesome. But when I did it, I couldn't get the volts high enough with the wire I used and magnets I used to ever push over that diode voltage drop. But, there are some good ways to do that now, and you can even buy magnet wire hair thin to wrap it with and get higher voltages. Not to mention series connections and multiple of them would get that voltage up a bit. But something like this could easily be put near something that is creating vibrations, and harvest some of that wasted energy. Now that I'm thinking about it, I'm gonna have to make some more of these and play with them.

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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2022, 12:49:05 PM »
I like where you are going with your research. The bubble explanation is a little different than what happens though I believe. It's not actually pulling you in, it's slowing you down.

You're right. 1 magnet will slow it the whole time and won't work.

Even though I explained it with 1 magnet, when I thought of the actions I was using 2 magnets. I think if using 2 magnets. If they are all spaced correctly in relation to the size of the coil, drag could be eliminated.  One going left is creating a magnetic field that attracts the other right.  and vise versa.  Basically we work the motion to match the way Lenz is is working.

I will need to remake the video eliminating the 1 magnet parts.

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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2022, 01:55:32 PM »
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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2022, 05:37:13 PM »
Could be a possibility worth trying. But entering the coil the first magnet will pay the price and leaving the coil the last magnet will pay the price. Keeping them in the middle with short fast movements like you suggested could be worth a look. May be about time to order one of those magnetic filed viewing strips to kind of help see the blotch walls of the multiple magnets attached.

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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2022, 05:45:02 PM »
Could be a possibility worth trying. But entering the coil the first magnet will pay the price and leaving the coil the last magnet will pay the price. Keeping them in the middle with short fast movements like you suggested could be worth a look. May be about time to order one of those magnetic filed viewing strips to kind of help see the blotch walls of the multiple magnets attached.

Yea..  and I need to test out if reciprocating the magnet inside the coil will work. If the magnet has the right pole orientation, I think it will be most effective.

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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2022, 07:25:42 PM »
I came up with a way to generate energy from wasted vibrations and movements of any kind. I may have to revisit that again now that I have more knowledge and resources to figure that stuff out. Picture this... I had some 3/4" disc magnets. I took a piece of PVC pipe, I think at the time I used 1.5" size, but you just need one that the magnets can move freely inside. I cut 2 rings out of the pipe. Stretched a balloon over the mouth of one of them. I put the other ring on top so that the stretched balloon was between the two and I taped it all up good with duct tape making 1 tube with a rubber diaphram in between the two. I then put magnet inside the tubes on both sides of the rubber and let them stick together on both sides pinching the rubber between them. Now I aligned the magnets in the center of the tube. Now a tiny vibration of the table makes the magnets bounce up and down. I then wrapped the pipe in magnet wire turning the whole thing into a coil with bouncing magnets in the middle. Hook it to a multimeter and you will see it generating off of very tiny movements. It works awesome.

It is interesting.

I also know another way.

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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2022, 08:19:20 PM »
Regarding the relevance of Hertz versus length of a stroke, I can't find much that I could understand in terms of generation. Lots of information about usage, which really doesn't apply here.

From what I think I might understand, higher frequency has more power.

Please correct me if I'm wrong. Power generation is dependent on how much movement the magnet makes in front of the coil. Creating higher frequency by reciprocating extremely quick but very small strokes should make the same amount of power as reciprocating longer strokes but at a slower rate.

As an example. Say I reciprocate 1 inch per stroke and I could make 10 strokes per second. This should make the same amount of power as reciprocating 0.1 in per stroke and making 100 strokes a second.  With this reasoning be correct?



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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2022, 09:45:27 PM »
I think you are correct there. Someone may correct me, but that is how I understand it. Now one being more efficient than the other, I couldn't tell you that.

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« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2022, 10:29:02 PM »
Sweet. Certainly it will help with unnecessary vibration and wear on moving parts.


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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2022, 01:10:20 AM »
Nope-  magnet in the coil is a no-go.

Produces great power, but drag is bad news.

If both poles in the coil- both poles either repel or attract to the coil, causing double drag.
If one pole is in the coil. that pole faces normal lens drag in and out.

Edit-  Magnets in the coils will work, but magnets would need to be positioned poles on flat faces with opposite polarities facing outward.  Then we make power and 2 alternating poles are facing the right way to neutralize drag as long as they stay in the coil.

I am going with the original idea.  It allows me to use cores and put coils on both sides of the magnets.  Let the build commence!
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« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2022, 08:56:09 AM »
I had this problem when I needed to convert the low travel and low speed of a Milkovich double pendulum arm into EMF.

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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2022, 04:45:13 PM »
WOW..  I think I found the best configuration...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13X58sQqtOU

If "Attraction is stronger than repulsion at shorter distances"  if we get the stroke length right=  No Drag

Edit. Reduce the stroke slightly more than neutralization point- it runs itself ??  (tapping the potential difference in the poles at correct spacing)

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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2022, 06:14:38 PM »
Don't need to "cut the flux" in this most optimal configuration yet. Movement can be inline with the coil direction.

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Re: Floodrod's Etheric Generator Research / Build
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2022, 06:41:27 PM »
ROTATION...

Rotating in middle of coil. 

Neutralized + switching window. Holy Grail?

Scope shows same way current throughout full 180 degree rotation.