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#### nix85

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##### Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #90 on: May 10, 2022, 04:46:16 PM »
I was clearly referring to caps for the tabletop device i talked about few pages back

when i said how weird it was 3uF caps are so small, now we know they are 0.1uF.

Those caps are clearly labeled DC which does not necessarily mean they are for DC only.

For example many polypropylene big caps "DC link caps" are labeled DC because that is their use

to smooth out pulsed DC; but of course they can be used for AC as well.

I know well about the dimmer, i seen all Don's lectures dozens if not hundreds of times.

Obviously, LC is AC...................or is it....

I designed this myself without seeing it anywhere

I believe i later saw a similar circuit once, i'm sure it exists cause it's so simple.

In any case it is a pure DC (through an inductor) LC tank.

(Sure pulsed DC is also AC, but it's clear what is meant).

#### Vortex 22

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##### Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #91 on: May 10, 2022, 05:05:59 PM »
I guess this is a good time to remind of some basic formulas

wavelength = c/f
f = 1/T
a = v/t
momentum = mv
Kinetic Energy ke = 1/2 mv²
centrifugal/centripetal force: F = mv²/r
Force = Mass * acceleration
Work = force * distance moved  unit: newton meter or joule or Work = Mass * Gravity * Height
Work = Change in Energy
Power = work / time = force * displacement / time = force * velocity
Power (hp,watt) = work(ENERGY)/time aka time rate of energy transfer
Energy = Power x Time
XL= 2πfL
I= V/XL Alternating current flowing through inductor is applied voltage / inductive reactance
XC= -1/2πfC
Z = sqrt(R² + (Xc - Xl)²)
I = (V-E)/Z current through transformer primary E = voltage drop across primary inductance
F = 1/6.2832√LC
F = 1/2π√LC
C= 1/4π²Fr²L
Fl = R/2πL cutoff frequency of RL low pass filter
Fc = 1/2πRC cutoff frequency of RC low pass filter
ohms law: V = IR
power per second:
P = IV
P = I²R copper losses
P = V²/R
P=VI*PF true power (V and I are average, RMS)
energy stored in an inductor E = LI²/2
energy stored in an cap E = 1/2 QV = Q²/2C = CV²/2
for capacitor and inductor circuit V=IZ
for capacitor circuit V=C*(dv/dt)*R
I = C dv/dt current through a cap
1 Volt = 1 Joule/Coulomb
1 Watt = 1 Joule/Second
1 Ampere = 1 Coulomb/Second
V × A = J/C × C/s = J/s = Watt
electric energy E = IVt and E = (V²/R)t
1F = 1C / 1V - amount of electric charge in coulombs that is stored per 1 volt
C = Q / V and C = kA/d
E = F / Q electric field (N/C or V/m) is force per charge
F = qE + qv x B lorentz law, em forces on a charge
R = 80*pi^2*(L/W)^2 rad. res. of antenna where L=length of antenna, and W = wavelength
t = L/R inductor time constant, after ~5t (transient time) current reaches 99.5%
t = RC for RC circuit, after 5RC cap is 99.5% charged
transformer size is proportional to B MAX =V/F
in alternator emf leads flux by 90°+
energy content of wave is proportional to the amplitude squared P = E²
Z = sqrt( L / C ) cable characteristic impedance
reactive load temporary stores energy, not waste it (unless PS cant take it back)
v = L(di/dt) BACKEMF from an inductor
Short circuit current = V / alternator internal resistance
V = BLv farraday law for moving conductor
flux density = amper x turns x core permeability x core area / m² (T)
F = ILxB force on a conductor in a magnetic field - laplace
as load increases, current in the conductor must increase to balance the forces: I = F/BL
free space impedence 376Ohm
C = 1 / sqrt permitivity x permeability of space
Hello
We can't explain what is going on in Don Smith circuit with mainstream as your basis.
If you could people all over the world would be replicating Tesla! Free
energy as we mistakenly call it would be the norm.

#### nix85

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##### Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #92 on: May 10, 2022, 05:13:55 PM »
Hello
We can't explain what is going on in Don Smith circuit with mainstream as your basis.
If you could people all over the world would be replicating Tesla! Free
energy as we mistakenly call it would be the norm.

You are mixing apples and oranges, all here know well conventional approach is no
solution to Don or overunity in general, but these are just some useful basic electronic
formulas which apply perfectly.

#### Vortex 22

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##### Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #93 on: May 10, 2022, 05:15:53 PM »
ALL of Smith's devices lead up to a capacitor or bank
of capacitors, which – in a brilliant stroke of creative insigh

#### Vortex 22

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##### Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #94 on: May 10, 2022, 06:40:32 PM »
I know, we all know this!

The basic idea :
How to make an electron captor?

In the suitcase device around 28.8 kw output
I can see with my eyes two electrons captors?
The small electron captor is powering the bigger one?

#### Vortex 22

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##### Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #95 on: May 10, 2022, 06:52:42 PM »
Now I am trying to replicate water fuel cell capacitors?
The fact that we have a Diode before the cap
This only prouve it, it's not about resonance?

#### ramset

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##### Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #96 on: May 10, 2022, 07:22:08 PM »
Just a note to builder  / researchers

I am working on this Don Smith research I was sent

Just trying to be respectful to senders , while they are indeed
Open source fellows,
stepping up to forums can be unpleasant experience for some (past history
Of forums prior to allowing new “moderate your own board” as presented here for builders ( also one
Other open source venue I am aware of ?)!

And it seems there are a few bumps in the road to sort what is acceptable ( for builders) etiquette of entire Venue… as it applies to shared work !

Not gonna be easy…However
I firmly believe it’s doable!

With gratitude and respect to those who carry water or at the tip of the spear ( research or build)!!

Chet K

#### tomd

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##### Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #97 on: May 10, 2022, 11:22:07 PM »
I know, we all know this!

The basic idea :
How to make an electron captor?

In the suitcase device around 28.8 kw output
I can see with my eyes two electrons captors?
The small electron captor is powering the bigger one?

From the Smith pdf

"For reasons of Don's personal security and contract obligations, the information which he has shared here is incomplete."
« Last Edit: May 11, 2022, 08:53:51 AM by tomd »

#### nix85

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##### Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #98 on: May 11, 2022, 04:40:18 AM »
Regarding Don's tabletop device built in 1994 which allegedly outputted ~16kW.

We know he used 0.2uF 4000V capacity on the primary.

There is also that small 0.047uF for tuning on the sec.

And output caps are 8000V 2uF overall four 2000V 8uF in series.

Ask yourself the difference how will primary ring if you discharge a cap

directly into it or through a diode. One may expect a different result

but i found spark gap fires at the same rate. In the case with the diode we

can assume, cap first fully discharges into a coil as if there is no diode, current

rises to max, cap is fully discharged, now flux collapses and coil recharges

the cap in the opposite direction. But what now, there is a diode preventing

the cap to discharge, oscillation cannot continue. We can only assume

at this moment cap will discharge through the flyback secondary as it

is the only path it can take and this may harm the flyback cause it is not

made for such large current, even if only momentarily.

« Last Edit: May 11, 2022, 10:09:20 AM by nix85 »

#### nix85

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##### Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #99 on: May 11, 2022, 11:59:40 AM »
One of my scope shots that shows strong (approx) 12th harmonic.

#### Vortex 22

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##### Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #100 on: May 11, 2022, 02:19:35 PM »
Good luck

#### Vortex 22

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##### Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #101 on: May 11, 2022, 02:29:51 PM »
Don Smith give us everything we need to replicate his many devices !!!

There is one page or two from Don
Where he shows us a capacitor and diodes in order to capture free charges from the environment?
But don't take it at its face value !!!

This is the basic

#### Vortex 22

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##### Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #102 on: May 11, 2022, 02:40:18 PM »
@Vortex 22

my 2cents.
this device (to me) looks like Don is just putting hf DC pulses onto one side of both caps, then putting load b/w other side of caps and earth ground. Don Smith effect.
3rd terminal on cap isn't used.

u r right we almost always use Don circuit with storage cap to turn Volts into Coulombs (VA).
Don would use say 4 x 50F cap banks to do this.

thank u for shedding light here and ur suggestions r most welcome here by me.

wlw
Image is not clear enough to understand how this device works?

My guess
Some  first model of the electron captor. But people like to jump to replicate his more advanced devices
We need to identify
The components?

#### Vortex 22

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##### Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #103 on: May 11, 2022, 03:44:06 PM »
Yup

This is Don Smith Effect

This is the building blocks of free
Electron Captor !!! Believe it or not

#### Vortex 22

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##### Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #104 on: May 11, 2022, 05:42:09 PM »
It's seems to me that no one is interested in these two pages from Don Smith?