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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2022, 10:21:52 PM »
Regarding TPU core, from https://www.scribd.com/document/37391777/Steven-Mark-TPU

After the test the inventor cut the toroidally shaped device into segments (though not the controller box located at the center of the device). These samples consisted of an array of circumferentially arranged coils and wires grouped around a core made of a cork like substance.

October 29, 1995 Roland Schinzinger

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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2022, 12:16:07 AM »
well I do listen to Don, but he didn’t spoon feed ppl he made one think it and work it out.

That's what Zila said, you have to take into consideration i know everything she said and every time you quote her without quoting her i will surely know it. BTW i agree with her on that.

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u mentioned his matchbox sized device with no caps no coils. ever put two transistors on top of one another and measure C between them? parasitic c b/w adjacent transistors. like Fogal transistor w/o cap. he gave hint- he said everything has LC&R, even solid state passive components.

I did not do that particular test but i said already when replying about Zila's copper tube setup that everything has LC (and of course R) value. This is basics, probably everyone here knows this.

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TPU wound on cork… well not mine.  ;D u must’ve missed the post where zilano disclosed TPU is a Leedskalnin PMH used to charge cap. then she gave example of using it to power Kapanadze type circuit and u have a kW self-runner device.

Whatever you did has no relation to SM's TPU ;D Zilano didn't know how TPU worked. If you want to understand TPU better read Energy Conservation Device Disclosure (Otto; Roberto) in attachment.

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not sure what u think flyback means but its a method of feedback with another coil to switching transistor. depending on core type some have in-built diode like tv yoke but I don’t touch those kind.
NST does similar its just HV HF power supply already potted.

:) Seems you confused what flyback means. Firstly, i'd suggest you to read my post below to learn deeply how ordinary transformer works and how flyback CONVERTER works cause technically it is not a transformer cause output is not proportional to turns ratio but a coupled inductor. Flyback refers to the cathode ray in the TV "flying back" to the left side of the screen (looking from behind screen) at the moment flyback's secondary discharges. If flyback had no diodes it would not be a flyback, it would be a ferrite core transformer. Also, transistors are irrelevant, switching can be done by a vacuum tube, mechanical switch or whatever means.

https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg564961/#msg564961

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I use neither air nor ferrite core, but MetGlas and even better permeability material. "The magnetic equivalent of negative resistance is hidden, being the increase of magnetic permeability." -don

I know Don used Metglas and have his quotes on it, that small device i spoke of 10W in 10kW is Metglas as well as are those huge toroids you see in his photos. He explicitly said those are wound on Metglas.

As i wrote in first post i ordered from China 400$ supposed 50,000+ permeability permaloy core which turned out to have permeability worse than air. Thankfully ferrite is good enough.

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I would love to get into this more detail, but there is almost no one I can talk to about this. everyone throws old theories at me like dogma and here am just trying to impart a different way of thinking or looking at the thing b/c 125 year old theories of electricity just don't cut it.

Who is "throwing dogma and 125 year old theories" at you, i sure am not, in fact, i am farther away from dogma and old theories than you.

Also, get off your high horse, you know far less than you think you do. I am not putting you down, just saying as it is.

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I was amazed at Zilano’s unwavering positivity and willingness to share with others and it inspired me to pay it forward, so-to-speak.

She was willing to share but how "unwavering" was she when she DELETED ALL HER POSTS.

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no offense meant, but u don’t think about what I said. from ur ignition coil down u have a spark at the spark plug, pull that wire out and put a piece of metal in the connector and arc it out onto battery positive while car is running, then arc it to neg. IT JUMPS TO BOTH. so if it jumps to pos then sec current is neg, if it also jumps to neg then sec current is also pos, its pos and neg at same time. which is NEUTRAL.

So in other words Coulomb’s law just went in the trash can. means u can also put North-North poles or South-South poles together. means we have to rethink electricity from 100 or more years ago till now.

No offense taken and no one can guess your thoughts if you do not express them properly. READ what you wrote:

"ur pic of ignition coil is good example b/c that bottom HV wire is shorted to pri pos. so one single wire makes a primary and secondary field.
this means ur spark is actually neutral charge b/c it will jump to battery neg AND battery pos which is 100% dead short with that connecting wire there."

Who can from this get that you meant

"pull that wire out and put a piece of metal in the connector and arc it out onto battery positive while car is running, then arc it to neg. IT JUMPS TO BOTH"

No one can. So what if you do that and it jumps to both, No, it does not mean "Coulomb’s law went in the trash", current will take all possible paths to close the circuit. Nothing strange about that one.

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Old Fords and Commodores used to run "waste-spark management" where they don't have that wire connecting pri and sec they actually fire BOTH sides of the coil into two different cylinders both b4 top dead center. better economy and motor runs smoother. so big take away is there is no waste spark, only waste electricity.

Again you talk in semi-nonsensical manner trying to sound like Zilano. What is ""fire BOTH sides of the coil" supposed to mean, potential difference is built up between two sides of the coil, spark fires between them, not just from one side or the other. So it's pointless to address the rest of that paragraph.

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Yes amps is waste and gain is amps, but why waste at the start of OU circuit? doesn't it make sense to waste it in load where u want it?

Just thoughts to consider.

Cheers

Already addressed that, who cares about 10W or even 200W if you're getting many kW on the output. Sure even that can be eliminated but is of no particular importance.
« Last Edit: April 24, 2022, 03:50:27 AM by nix85 »

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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2022, 12:25:03 AM »
the 800W tabletop TPU Steve cut into had two smaller toroids at the center u call "controller box" - that was the generator not the outer bit he cut.

simple misdirection.

Cheers

Coils are essential part of the generation system, box was probably just pulse/frequency generator. You compared it to LS PMH which is using an iron core and does not use frequencies of any kind, totally different from TPU.

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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2022, 12:33:13 AM »
There, he stoops to sarcasm and runs away just cause i corrected him few times, why some people just say stuff if it's not thoroughly researched/understood, it's better to say nothing.

Nothing surprizing and just proves, again, just cause someone gets something to work, does not in any way mean that person understands exactly what he's doing and underlying principles.




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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2022, 06:30:06 PM »
See how much money and time he spent trying to get it to work, i might say that alone proves my point, when one really understands (is able to draw solutions from higher spheres) one needs not tons of money or time but unfortunately (or not) it usually takes such great investments before one allows himself to listen to intuition better, instead of tons of money i invest tons of mind power, result is the same. May i remind that i been experimenting with this only few weeks and most of that time as usually doing it in my mind, analyzing circuits and what exactly happens and improving/completing my setup.

LOL "when he tries to explain it" as if he is the one to explain anything, as if Zila did not explain it all 11 years ago and Don before that.... Firstly i am not conventionally educated and i am deeper in this stuff than him despite the fact he has succeeded and i have still not (again, i just started experimenting with this approach few weeks ago). I am not greeting him with “no-no” attitude. I never denied his success, all i did is question his level of knowledge and understanding according to his statements which indicate certain lack of both. Just take the example how he took the fact that when you place the ignition coil output over the battery it would jump to both terminals to conclude it violates the Coulomb's law while it actually does not, current simply takes all possible paths to close the circuit, etc. Yes, we all make mistakes including me but i at least try to make sure to understand things deep enough so i don't make such basic mistakes. Zila as a girl had natural predisposition to use her intuition and so she succeeded fast, after just 5-6 months, but downside is such short time is not enough for deep understanding of all the principles involved (conventional and not) to crystalize on a deeper level so she made many mistakes like "core will saturate at higher frequency" altho it is exactly the opposite etc.

Never mind saying nothing, all this is serving it's purpose to somewhat remove the veils/fog from the minds of many.

TPU is irrelevant as is the question if prime mover is self powered or not.

I have no questions for you but if others have may they ask anything they want.


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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2022, 09:55:00 PM »

Hello whitelightningwizard

can you explain the principle of working ? a schematic maybe ..


regards

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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2022, 10:04:38 PM »
no matter wot I say it will prove ur point. i could show u device running with meters and it will serve ur point somehow.

What are you talking about, i am not denying your replica works.

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well Don was rich from oil industry so he had the money to blow on MetGlas and Terfenol D and the like.

I stated money and time invested so u know am not a novice myself.


I know Don was rich from his geological work for fossil fuel cabal so it was easy for him to play with exotic materials. Zila also was/is wealthy since she said "just cause i am rich does not mean others are" and that's why she wanted to help others do it with cheap parts. Thankfully cheap parts is all we need. Rest assured all those Russians replicating Don with success stivep1 shared on his channel are poor as f. Correct Knowledge (VIDYA in Sanskrit) is ALL or maybe they just "got lucky".

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simple thing is I got it to work and u don’t yet -- so who listen to intuition better?

You got it to work after 7 years and 350,000$ dollars and i (altho i been studying Don for years), as i said, have been actually experimenting with it for a very short time and have invested very very little money compared to you yet (without making predictions cause they usually backfire) i feel i am almost there, so, who listens to intuition better?


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like u I spent all time in my head but only when I got out of head and work it practically on the bench did I get success.

I don't spend all the time in my head, i put hard work into assembling all this not to mention find all the parts, now with scalar coil added etc it's a matter of tuning and fine adjustments (i hope).

5% of bench work 95% imagination is perfect balance for Tesla types, for others the reverse might be more lucrative. I prefer the first, it requires much less funds and it leads to deeper understanding.

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Hyperphantasia is gift Tesla had and so do I. sounds like u do 2!

Good for you. I always had hypervivid imagination (and creativity).

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Problem is when ur imaginated circuit does not resemble circuit in reality. Just What is electricity?

Circuits i analyse in my mind are exactly the same circuits from diagrams and exactly as components are put together on the board. These circuits are quite simple, it's about complex dynamics manifesting in them. Take the simple discharging of a cap into an L, consider what exactly happens at every point in time and exactly how we get current amplification in parallel RLC... People take these things for granted.

Good that you ask what electricity is. Like old gods of etheric sciences (Tesla, Rota, Hollingshead) knew well it is a complex stream constituting of at least two parts, neutral/dominant/unobserved and lower/inferiror/observable.

As Keely and later Hollingshead said all flows are triune, which might be equated to male (electric), female (magnetic) and neutral (Poynting vector, I AM, Time axis, G-axis).

Rota (who was in my opinion far ahead of all of them put together) however gave a more complex description saying that electricity is formed from five currents, electric component of two currents and the magnetic component of three.. More on Rota's incredible work here https://web.archive.org/web/20180712204654/www.keelynet.com/docs/louisrotaairship.pdf

I also go quite in depth about these primary currents on my website. All this stuff i mention here is really essential, difference between speed and density of male (electric) and female (magnetic) components of the GREAT LIGHT, 6 axis of time creating 3d space, ratio of 49 by which matter density, speed of time and speed of light increase/decrease as we go toward higher/lower planes/octaves, the fact that primary emanation from the sun are 33 types of vital energy (non herzian waves) of which each consists of 7 types of even subtler particles (don't be surprised that factorial of 7 is 5040 numerical value 9) and that when these superluminal particles hit the planetary vortex they slow down and merge into well known polarized herzian waves aka light and heat, or that Earth's gravitational vortex is extending just beyond our Moon after which is a about 7,000km thick neutral zone after which Earth's gravity becomes R E P U L S I V E etc. This last detail is not even on the site...there is SO much lacking in mankind's knowledge it is appalling to the extreme degree.

https://vril12.wordpress.com/

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Zila did explain it but u said u don’t like her words - I don’t either b/c she talked Scalar waves which I don’t think is right. u said everything is LIGHT and this is good place to start.
Means electricity is Light waves only, not other theories.

Her language was pretty messy. Scalar waves is a misnomer altho i don't mind using it. We all know scalar is something like temperature, no vector, just magnitude. We are talking longitudinal EM waves (i dislike when they claim these waves have no magnetic component, so wrong). All is LIGHT indeed, all is play of polarities around neutral axis, all is waves, traveling and standing (which is made of two opposing traveling waves).

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If ignition coil output jumps to both terminals then what is the polarity (or charge) of this current?
Do u believe polarity can swap like Male can spontaneously become Female?
I don’t think. So simple experiment can have HUGE implications which is why I stated check ignition coil thing.

I can't believe i had to draw it for you, see below. When you bring the HV output from the secondary, of course it jumps to both battery terminals, these are two available paths secondary can close on itself.

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ignition coil spark is no different to Don spark is no different to Zila spark u see.

True and not true. Not all spark gaps are the same, that's why we experiment with various sg materials, shapes and distance (also vacuum vs non-vacuum), you see.

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really no Q’s???

wlw

Don't be surprized if you get no questions. Maybe you expected just cause you claim to have success everyone will shower you with attention, begging you for the "secret" but you forgot that you are late to the party, it's all been revealed LONG ago, at the same time, everyone here and elsewhere are aware these things are delicate and no one can do the hard work for them, that is why no matter how detailed instructions are replications almost always fail, you just HAVE to learn deeply and get feel for all this (or get lucky).
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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2022, 04:22:25 AM »
it was not “luck”. i understand electricity and what it is first.
then model circuits in my imagination.
only when it conforms to Nature do u truly have it right. if theories persist that are not Natural then it won’t work out.

Judging by your posts it's questionable how much you "understood". Of course whatever we do including our circuits must work with Nature not against it (fighting lenz brute force, rockets, explosion engines...) if it is to work constructively and efficiently.

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male is electric. female is also electric.

Bro you don't know even the basics.

Female polarity is magnetic, NOT electric. Never was electric, never will be, this is the most fundamental essence of polarity, of WILL (electric-male) and LOVE (magnetic-female). I wrote in-depth about all this on my site https://vril12.wordpress.com/ but of course you did not even open it cause you think you "know", you do NOT know.

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there are unseen flows here as every wave is an octave in and of itself.

what u call gravity is misunderstood as magnetism.

both are created effects of compression/expansion light-wave current or electric current if u like
and the neutral is equilibrium or the opposite of opposites. i.e. still light or the FULCRUM of all motion.
forget Keely, read Dr. Walter Russell. A New Concept of the Universe.

I already talked about unseen etheric streams around the Earth here and elsewhere many times, this non-herzian spectrum Tesla (among others) rediscovered, he reported the sensations from tingling (very commonly reported as such or as thousand needles in ufo cases) to heating, cooling (allegedly he was able to heat/cool whole rooms), push and allegedly later he built a flying platform....in last paragraph i talked about Earth's grav vortex and how gravity beyond the Moon becomes repulsive, the 33 types of vital energy emitted by the sun,  that each plane/octave higher we go speed of light, density of matter and rate of time flow all increase 49 times, this is why time on higher planes is known to flow much faster (or stop in certain neutral bands)..........how could you recognize how rare and how essential this info is....all this key stuff you never even heard of. Some day you will.

You tell me to read Russel, i studied Russel before you knew he existed, have his books, and Otis Carr who put his work into practice.....

Russel understood the double vortexial nature of generation of matter by compression and expansion of light, which is another representation of ancient universal form of double tetrahedron (which is in turn the first 3D structure, more on that below), Merkabah, unification of polarities creates life. I wrote about this on the site

"crossing of A and B lines (of primary light) of same frequency produces nodes where their substances meet (mating!) generating so called particles." and "The G line of TIME or Poynting Vector separating the A (electric) and B (magnetic) lines of Primary Light is an insulator between the two which spiral around it and continue their eternal dance by partial induction".

Russel admitted ether which he called "atoms of space".... so there is nothing wrong about following Russel, however, the problem is if you follow ONLY Russel, then your view is extremely limited, lacking so much, and that is exactly what you are, someone who did a basic research, drew a line and gave up on anything more.

As for tetrahedron and creation from nothing, (already have written about this on the forum and on the site)...

In short, how Self/God creates 3D space from nothing using quantized consciousness and sound. Self first imagines an abstract (timeless, spaceless) set of vibrations of infinite frequency and amplitude. Into this abstract mental concept, Self projects another set of vibrations of FINITE frequency and amplitude, thus BOUNDING the infinity by interference, this is done along the 6 AXIS OF TIME. Time does not move, it oscillates in-place, matter of matter and antimatter universes travels on time-wave and like a diode picks up vibrations only in one direction, their timelines diverging in opposite direction (official model says the same)...From each time axis it appears as if the next axis moves at 1/2 it's speed (from perspective of one side of equilateral triangle while it traverses it's whole length it APPEARS as if the side nearby traversed 1/2 of the same length) yet they are exactly the same, creating the harmonic ratio of 1:2, this is the very basis of TRUE RELATIVITY and it allows for creation of a 60° angle , which in turn allows for creation of a tetrahedron, a first 3D structure....

It would be best if you read the original https://galactic.no/rune/iarapdx1.html Why i got a hutch you're not gonna do it, i guess you think you "know" ;)

Also to dismiss Keely, my my...how unwise. Keely, who was a Master, wrongfully proclaimed a charlatan, by the official "science", who toward his later years gained mastery over the etheric forces to a degree very rare if any did. He was the first in modern times who mastered not only degravitation but true artificial non-inertial gravity field, negative polar stream he called it. Keely who first discovered the triune structure of the proton (he called molecule), the flower of life interference pattern inside a proton, septet of nature being these 3 dipoles + the neutral center, Master Keely who brought us

Forty Laws of Sympathetic Vibratory Physics

https://translatedby.com/you/john-ernst-worrell-keely-s-forty-laws-of-sympathetic-vibratory-physics/original/

....if you only knew how much you're missing.

Let's just say you have NO IDEA what gravity is.

Gravity is often called vertical component of magnetism, or "COLD MAGNETIC FORCE". It is a higher order force but in essence it is nothing but matter (quantized consciousness) in spiraling motion. As a field it is a local polarization of the Universal Currents, a vortex within a vortex (of a planet, sun, galaxy....), this etheric vortex existed about 3 billion years before the cruder forms of matter accumulated on it and formed material Earth we know today. It's range, as i said, extends somewhat beyond the orbit of Moon and becomes repulsive beyond. When spacecraft approaches a planet it MUST be in direction of spin of it's etheric envelope, going the other way would be like hitting an invisible wall and certain death. This is the reason asteroids flare up as they fall in the sun's vortex and why most of them burn out before they reach the planetary surface. No one leaves this vortex, this etheric envelope, in body or discarnated unless able to generate an envelope of his own (or be carried in one created by another/technical means). Detailed mechanics of this field are given in the FALLING BODIES THEORY by Zirbes (diagram from the book below). It is the same microscopic forcefield around electrons, protons, atoms, molecules....on the macroscopic scale, but still, just matter in motion, nothing more.

Gravity, magnetism and all sub-forces are not separate forces but DISTURBANCES of one Primary Force which is neither electric nor magnetic, it is NEUTRAL, already addressed that in previous post. (not all electric as you and Ken Wheeler (Theoria Apophasis) clones think).

This is perfectly summed up in simple language in the chapter MOTION FROM INHERENT ENERGY from ETIDORHPA i also link in the article https://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/eti/eti33.htm

What you call gravity as a force which makes things fall down are negative MAGNETIC lines of force of the primary light streaming into the Earth attracted by the positive electric core. Also there is a superimposed COUNTERSTREAM at 1/3 higher frequency (as discovered by Hollingshead, this is the NAVAZ of Atlantis, their greatest discovery), so when atomic speed is increased by treatment with neutral ray, matter becomes transparent to inward flow and starts to resist the outward one, balance can be reached so that object is fixed in air. Of course, you never heard of these things. Also inward flow is associated with positive polarity coming from the Sun and it manifests light, heat and gravity, while Earth reflects the negative associated with dark, cold and levitation.

In short, no, primal force is not electric, it is neutral, electric and magnetic are +1 and -1, electric being slightly denser but slower, so overall they are in balance, eternally seeking rest of the neutral center, the G-LINE OF TIME creating and insulating them - THIS is the GREAT LIGHT i referred to, not the polarized, herzian light you can see, but the dark light (black sun) inside it, the omnipotent intelligence permeating ALL, yet unseen, undetectable, eternal. If partially resisted it manifests the cascading force stream starting from magnetism > electricity > electromagnetism > sound > matter. Reverse is of course possible, unification of two or more lower forces generating the higher one. For example colliding the two gamma rays producing the electron-positron pair etc.

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ur language is complex because there is no accurate understanding of Light, the one thing.
the language of Light in God’s vocabulary is of course COLOR.
but in man’s language we have not the vernacular yet to describe Light as it is.
yes u r right so much lacks from Man’s knowledge.

I'm sure it sounds complex to you but it is simple if you understand it. Your explanations are too bare. It's easy to remain on that level and call anything else "too complex" but reality is you did just a basic research and gave up.

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Yup u made nice drawing but didn’t answer my question.  :P

If spark jumps to pos is the spark itself pos or neg? male or female?
the terminal of the battery is pos which is suppose to repel pos no?
If spark jumps to neg is the spark itself pos or neg? male or female?
neg is suppose to repel neg
but strange thing is spark give us BOTH. it swaps . hmmm u don’t find that noteworthy?
NOW,
snip that connecting wire and u get 2 sparks that both jump to + & — ever done that?
called ‘waste spark management’  Google it.

I answered but you did not get it :P And you still don't get it. Take 3 1.5V batteries and put them in series, but reverse the polarity on the third one so it's ++ --. IMAGINE, current flowing through a battery in reverse.

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am not looking for attention, ur right its all out there and u must experiment and learn to get feel for the thing. then its really ease and u can use cheaper parts sure.
am just here to offer opinion and maybe help some1.

wlw

Good. I got the feel already, i see it. Will report when time comes.
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« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2022, 12:38:08 PM »
@whitelightningwizard
I have some questions/queries you may be able to shed some light on.
Zilano: "bifilar is nothing! its same coil but ccw. if ur one tesla is cw the other is ccw. joined togather. one produces voltage and other produces current." I think she is referring to the ¼ wave phase difference between voltage and current when the secondary length is ¼ wave. However in the case of the reverse Tesla circuit resonance is forced using a seperate capacitor rather than the self capacitance of the coil. Therefore does her statement still hold true? I always thought cw and ccw windings were to negate the bemf from secondary to primary winding.

Zilano: "energy doesnt come from ground. ground acts as a drain pipe and if we use choke there we can control the hv voltage of the secondary coil. and if we shunt it means no resistance to ground then hv is at full peak in secondary coil. its the magic of magnetic and electric fileds that produce amps.
This doesn't correspond with what Don is saying in this video: https://youtu.be/dICbnzfY464

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« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2022, 01:34:04 PM »
Question above is addressed to wlw but i will reply, not to the questioner but to general audience for sake of all. First, like i said before, Zilano used term bifilar for BUCKING COIL, but this is not true bucking coil, bucking coil refers to non-inductive coil. The fact that two secondaries in her (and mine) setup are wound CW and CCW does not negate lenz by itself, current flows in the opposite directions in two secondaries, their magnetic fields are in same direction, aiding.

It is common knowledge that grounded Tesla coil has tendency to naturally resonate at 1/4 wavelength (length of wire x 4 = wavelength) or 1/2 wavelength if not grounded and in grounded case grounded side is the current peak (and voltage node) and the opposite side voltage peak (and current node). Electric and magnetic fields are of course 90° out of phase in LC tanks, everybody knows that.

When Zila said about CW CCW one producing voltage and other current she was reciting famous Don's claim he never really explained. This claim of his taps into some basic differences between CW and CCW coils in context of etheric science. More here http://www.villesresearch.com/ether.html#magnetic%20fields%20and%20energies  But in the other place she said that grounded center tap is current and that opposite sides are voltage (in concord with conventional theory) and that combining voltage and current we get power, totally different from Don's claim she recited before, that one coil produces voltage and another current, but nothing strange there. Greatest mistake for anyone is to take her or anyone too literally, possibly, or rather, probably, this playful, messy approach was intentional, that is, spontaneous in accord with the feeling that there is no need to be too clear and coherent except in cases when chela (student) shows true dedication.

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« Reply #25 on: April 28, 2022, 02:18:55 PM »
Mr Nixon well ~I have watched most of the Don Smith vids and  I have never claped eyes on that phenomina your
discribing above.

What he did say was as he gets a long loop of wire and slings it from the floor round his neck and back to the floor in what
looks like a hair pin shap is that wen wound in a caducious mode produced a zero inductance with no voltage but high current.

Sil

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« Reply #26 on: April 28, 2022, 02:24:57 PM »
Here you go "Amperage and no voltage"

https://youtu.be/XuIsA9sXkyA?t=70

The "other thing" he mentions that he might bring out in 2, 3, 5 years, is the matchbox size device outputting megawatts.

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« Reply #27 on: April 28, 2022, 09:50:58 PM »
@nix85
According to the right hand rule the magnetic fields of a cw ccw coil are opposing.
https://www.miniphysics.com/ss-magnetic-field-due-to-current-in-a-solenoid.html.
What am I missing?

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« Reply #28 on: April 29, 2022, 02:07:17 AM »
@nix85

well I know basics but they are different to ur basics. Bro.  ;D

Basics are basics, universal, not mine or yours, and no, you do not know them. Bro. ;D

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u say female is magnetic. but show me female human. and show me male human. both are human.
ones female divided. ones male divided. same is true of electricity or color b/c electricity division is prototype build to all created body form.

Yes, female is magnetic, no matter how you twist things won't change that. This is basic universal principle. This clearly shows you never understood Russel. If you studied him better, for example the following:

"The universe of matter is a registration of the energy expended by Mind in the effort of thinking. The exact energy of the action of thinking is registered in the electro-positive charging systems, and the reaction of the action is registered in the electro-negative discharging systems. The charging systems are electrically dominated, centripetally, closing, contracting systems. The discharging systems are magnetically dominated centrifugally opening, expanding systems."

You would understand he refers to electric and magnetic as electro-positive/negative. This is just semantics he used, it does NOT mean magnetic is "also electric".

Both are human, so? Electricity and magnetism are both expressions of the neutral force (the time axis, the point of Stillness around which they spiral, the seat of Self) insulating and centering them. Thus in all secondary forces is entrapped the same finer, neutral stream, the only difference between, for example, that in electricity and matter is that former is orders of magnitude faster and thus has the dominion over the latter, slower one (can change its atomic speed (weight) permanently, heat/cold permanently or destroy it without remnants). This neutral (finer) can be liberated by disruptive discharges, too fast/sudden (rate of change Tesla was after) for ordinary electron flow, these "shockwaves", let's call 'em neutral etheric carrier wave, this is the other spectrum i already spoke of, and it has a spectrum just like ordinary light. This type of energy hiding within electricity and all secondary forces is the solution for all Man's energy, communication and propulsion means.... In short, female is not "also electric", whole point of existence of polarities is that they are the opposite.

As i already explained, in both electric (male) and magnetic (female) lines of force flows exactly the same neutral substance (quantized consciousness), the ultimate 'matter' out of which ALL is made. This most subtle 'matter' is like tiny bubbles in the ether, these bubbles have no inner content, no spin, no pulsation and they never (as Keely correctly figured later confirmed by others) touch under any circumstances.... ONLY in more complex forms this etheric vapor, this eternal MATERIA PRIMA, aggregates into complex toroid forms that based on their spin CW or CCW attain male or female polarity, these do have heart like pulsation, male projecting/pumping subtle streams from higher to lower octaves and female returning them closing the circuit, they exist in balance, perpetuating the circle of life.

Whole creation is actually a biological light/sound hologram, from these tiniest male and female pulsating subatomic particles to supracosmic cells consisting of 49 cosmoses in DNA-like strand to yet higher and higher order 'cells', nested within each other on 7 GREAT COSMIC PLANES

Actual mechanics and scale of Creation were personally shown to Itzhak Bentov and reproduced here https://youtu.be/KMbeK_6ATxQ?t=4837

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am not talking about Etheric streams.
I literally mean flows of current that u don’t know about, each octave is composed of 4 pairs which is 8 total so in one flow of current there are 8 individual flows. even DC.

LOL Yes you are, you clown. For years i have been talking about these (usually) undetected streams/currents on this forum...

Again you misinterpret Russel.

Let's quote what he exactly said

"Varying pressures in a wave are tonal. In each octave wave there are four pairs of tones, each of which has the same relative position in its octave color spectrum as it has in its octaves of chemical elements. Waves are, therefore, electric pressure-conditioned octaves of tones."

He is talking about 8 tones within an octave wave, so he is not using classical octave of 5 tones and 2 diatonic semitones but has one additional tone or semitone, i don't think that 8th tone would sound particularly harmonic but if Mr. Russel put it there, it is probably for a good reason.

You of course have no idea why that is so and almost certainly did not even make a correlation i just did, all you do is PARROT/QUOTE.

We know from ALL occult schools of thought, from ancient to newer (which are in turn based on ancient) that physical Creation is divided into 7 Cosmic Planes, as i said before and will say again, Materia Prima of the highest octave is condensing into lower planes/octaves based on ratio of 7x7, that is 49, quite different from Russel's 8 tone 10 octave scales, but certain correlations can be made.

You do speak of etheric streams cause etheric streams are LITERALLY all-there-is. All is made of these subtle Universal Currents, all forms emerge from them, all forms ultimately dissolve back into them. Yet the streams themselves are eternal, nonchanging. Rota discovered 381 different ones, he knew each one by distinct timber and using these streams that permeate Earth in all directions he could predict weather precisely months ahead, see distant locations, determine one's exact disease (clinically proven on 50+ patients), exact location and date of birth and death.... what he did was like magic, but this is not thread about Rota. This is the Earth Grid known since Atlatnis and once Man again learns to tune to these currents will need no high power radio emitters or satellites cause these carry information faster than light losslessly.

The most essential of all discoveries in any civilization's development was and will be the discovery of these Universal Currents creating all including the life process. As said before, secondary forces like electricity and magnetism are composed of multiple such streams, each having particular carrier frequency and harmonics (timber). Not only is DC composed of multiple such streams (as Leedskalining also correctly figured) but also so called 'static' electricity and 'static' magnetic field as well as matter and everything else including thoughts and emotions. Nothing is beyond the reach of Universal Currents but the Self projecting them from the point(s) of STILL-NESS.

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u read Russell but you complex his work with slam it with others which tells me u didn’t comprehend him.
SOOO many ppl do this.
yup have been accused of being a purist b4. no 1 goes to bat for Russell anymore.

You quote him literally without understanding, misinterpreting his words (as in female "also electric"), and are unable to correlate his work with work of other great sources, thus it is clear you're the one who did not comprehend him.

You can quote tho, boi you can quote.

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Russell nvr admitted ether he called it ‘space octaves’ which are gases expanded beyond the 18th element hydrogen on his periodic chart.
Light waves need no “medium” thru which to propagate. LIGHT is already everywhere.

I am well aware of his elements chart.

When he says "ALL LIGHT PARTICLES ARE ALIKE " he does not mean just ordinary light, he means etheric light streams flooding all space, this is exactly the same thing as Rota's Universal Currents, you just did not connect the dots.

Also, he did write "atoms of space" in one of his books, i can't find the quote right now. 

Density of etheric substance streaming through space everywhere is many orders of magnitude greater than densest element we know on Earth, as i already wrote, which you of course never addressed, that each octave above we go the density of matter, speed of light and rate times flows are all times 49 than on the lower plane.

This is the reason number 49 is encoded ALL over Bible. This is the ratio by which highest substance condenses toward lower planes. Funny how Mr Russel never told about this essential ratio by which literally everything is condensed, neither did he mention the 6 axis of time and exactly how they create 3D space, not to go further.

Realize, around the 'physical' Earth you see there are 7 spheres of astral MATTER (and it's as physical as this one when you tune up) above and 7 below Earth, each expanding millions of miles. Highest of those 7 planes is inconceivably lower than the 7th astral shell covering our sun and so on fractally in similar order, what is highest in Earth terms is by far not highest in larger reference frame. These are degrees of spiritual evolution but i digress.

Light is everywhere and moves not, that is something Keely said long before Russel. This is true if we for Light take the Intelligence observing the creation from points of stillness. But, at the same time, quantized Consciousness (bubbles in ether), Light made manifest does flow in all directions eternally.

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Keely studies got me nowhere. I’ll just say that.

And Russel got you to conclude female is also electric, my my.

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I would say ur terms are complex b/c u don’t understand simplicity of the Universe.
when u do “know” then u can explain Universal basics to a child and they comprehend.

:) I knew you're gonna resort to that "argument". BTW Einstein said that 'If you can't explain it to a six year old, you don't understand it yourself.'. Indeed, i 100% agree with him and i love that quote, but you forgot we are not 6 year olds here. Well, maybe you are :)

If you understood the simplicity of the Universe you would've recognized that all i say is based on simple principles ​clearly outlined and very much in-line with Russel you worship.

But you did not understand, you only memorized few quotes, big difference.

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already know SVP, even Dale Pond who has whole Russell room at his headquarters.

Some day you will realize that for true understanding of things one should never limit himself to a single perspective exclusively.

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I don’t know gravity u say. OK, but I have machine that makes object gain or lose weight. so I must know something correct. uses Russell dual vortex principle.

Hutchison had a setup that levitated 30kg lead cannonball, yet he did not understand gravity. Needless to repeat, no matter how deeply i studied OU i studied gravity and all related phenomena 10 times deeper. When i get over with this and put gravity on my table, i assure you i will not make an object that loses a gram or two of weight, but float a mountain if you like, if you only knew the majesty of 369, the scalar interferometry....., the Zirbes' vortexial experimentally verified Falling bodies theory of gravity.... if you only knew that through disinformation of element 115 they (MIC) pointed to something even more important...

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OK well forget ignition coil then. u didn’t even try the experiment I suggested. and u STILL didn’t answer what is polarity of spark???
simple question nix85 is IC spark pos or neg?
but u don’t answer that b/c we are still far apart in thinking on here.

You still don't get it, nothing about that experiment contradicts coulomb's law, circuit closes itself along two parallel paths, nothing strange. Spark can be hot or cold, that is another subject and has nothing to do with your flawed idea.

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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #29 on: April 29, 2022, 03:05:11 AM »
Ironic. I'll just tell you think about that yourself and what i wrote above .

"Some day you will realize that for true understanding of things one should never limit himself to a single perspective exclusively."

May time tell who dug up and correlated some of nature's most profound secrets and who was a clown who parroted blindly from one source he did not even understand.