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Author Topic: Just another Don Smith thread  (Read 18344 times)

Offline hope-hope

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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2022, 11:52:13 PM »

Hello

@ whitelightningwizard

the real Don Smith device should give Joules = 0.5 x C x V squared x C.P.S. squared small power is there just to perturb the ambient
background or zero point energy the system don't take the power from the primary coil , its there just to perturb or excite the power already available.. high speed radio wave replicate power with squared involved as in the equation above  !
this don't mean your system isn't good if you produce surplus of power it's great !

@  tomd

in my opinion the induction used is electrostatic


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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2022, 12:11:48 AM »
Nevermind

Offline whitelightningwizard

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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2022, 03:23:03 PM »
@ nix85

I have over a hundred web archived pages from the original forum where Z posted. no idea where I found them, but it was years ago on the net. plus I have all the pdfs assembled from David Fine.
so I have lots of details from z, even deleted pages/posts.

u r right there are many setups, and just like Don u can think of Z’s circuits as modules. I swap modules from her different circuits and play with this concept. it panned out for me.

u said Don didn’t use spark gap for tuning but not so. yes u pasted his quote, but he said elsewhere that there is millions of times the recognized magnetic flux present at sg. flux comes from current, so z is right the spark gap is a current amplifier, like an open thermionic valve.

250W is the output, not input. My inputs are a 9V battery touch to start and then self-running.

Z said to use a TPU to run the NST and I did same. Then its total free output w/o running a feedback.
I like this method so I do it this way. I used to use like Don a 7aH gelcell for my input to NST.

if everything is an open system then why does energy run down? only in closed circuits do we have waste. Remember Don said Amperes (current) is a rate of whats being wasted. I don’t waste in the pri u see. If Don has milliamps in input then he’s still wasting.

@ hope-hope

Yes Joules is V^2 x Hz^2 in these devices. so higher voltage and higher frequency = bigger harvest.

cheers

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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2022, 06:33:11 PM »
@ nix85

I have over a hundred web archived pages from the original forum where Z posted. no idea where I found them, but it was years ago on the net. plus I have all the pdfs assembled from David Fine.
so I have lots of details from z, even deleted pages/posts.

I as well have all the pdfs on Zila from Fine + her post on Bifilar coils saved by someone else + Summary by Vrand + (literally) hundreds and hundreds of screenshots (with key stuff) from these, mostly from Fine's pdfs.

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u r right there are many setups, and just like Don u can think of Z’s circuits as modules. I swap modules from her different circuits and play with this concept. it panned out for me.

Again, most of those are not her circuits but scribbles on other people's circuits.
Of course you can think of and use various circuits as modules, that applies in general.

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u said Don didn’t use spark gap for tuning but not so. yes u pasted his quote, but he said elsewhere that there is millions of times the recognized magnetic flux present at sg. flux comes from current, so z is right the spark gap is a current amplifier, like an open thermionic valve.

I got special folder inside my Zila-Smith folder dedicated to spark-gap overunity specifically, of course i have that Don's quote from yahoo group (altho i keep it in DON SMITH folder), more precisely he said "spark produces millions of times the suspected - recognized magnetic flux". Point is he did not always use a spark gap and it can be done without it.

To quote Don

"spark gap is actually control the level of energy that's passing through there you can do it without the spark gap"

https://youtu.be/_8JwIlHLOUI?t=7590

Point is sg is just just a sudden change in impedance and can replaced by sudden change in thickness of cable, if used for timing by a fast BJT, MOSFET or IGBT (which is a npn mosfet driving a pnp bjt) or just omitted completely.

Few quotes about sg gains...

"V. Mitkevich published a strange observation in Russian, in St. Petersburg, in 1905: an interrupted arc discharge showed an anomalous energetic “kick.” The voltage in the arc reversed at the moment when the arc was disrupted."

https://www.infinite-energy.com/iemagazine/issue133/forgotten-inventions-of-lenr.html

William Alek tungsten carbon sg gains

http://www.intalek.com/Index/Projects/SparkGapExp/SparkGapExp.htm

"The Correas have now convincingly demonstrated the principle that it is possible to release from charged metals in a vacuum amounts of free energy which exceed the amounts of energy put into the system."

http://www.rexresearch.com/correa/correa.htm

"energy available at the output of the helix of the traveling wave tube is 96 times the energy input to the traveling wave tube, in addition to the energy consumed within the traveling wave tube and the energy available in the form of collected particles at the collector electrode"

http://www.rexresearch.com/ev/ev.htm

dieter member here

"Experimenting with a 3kV Sparkgap, shocking a graphite core, I observed strange reduction of power consumption"

https://overunity.com/12328/radiant-electriciy-generated-with-spark-gaps-and-induction-coils-theory/msg502989/#msg502989

Electroboom current draw goes down when sg fires

https://youtu.be/m7VP36diOKY?t=135

"In fact some investigators have proposed that an abrupt voltage pulse with only (vacuum) displacement current and minimal charge motion is sufficient to produce anomalously excessive energy. Bearden (1993) proposed this is his final secret, and Hyde (1990) used this principle in desgining an invention (a mechanical electrostatic field chopper) that reportedly output 20KW while self running. Hyde stressed there should be no corona present whatsoever."

Quest For Zero-Point Energy: Engineering Principles for “Free Energy”
By Moray B. King

"Dr Chernetski demonstrated a device which showed enough excess energy to burn out a power station which it was connected to in a test. It was based around a spark discharge in low pressure hydrogen. Dr Chernetski was then killed in a car accident and his worked taken no further.

In a simpler test he also showed that with the right spark and less “expensive setup” could show a decrease in draw current with an increase in the load."

https://www.nuenergy.org/chernetsky-plasma-generator/

And so on ad infinitum

But, again, it can be done without.

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250W is the output, not input. My inputs are a 9V battery touch to start and then self-running.

You said "I have replicated from 250W to 2kW out" which can be interpreted as 250W in 2kW out but you now say it is 250W out, so what was 2kW a one time thing or never happened, yet you say you work on 7.5kW, God knows what you claim.

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Z said to use a TPU to run the NST and I did same. Then its total free output w/o running a feedback.
I like this method so I do it this way. I used to use like Don a 7aH gelcell for my input to NST.

TPU? Steven Mark TPU? What. Zila said she built her own NST, input is so small it is irrelevant if the prime mover itself is self runner or not. Flyback is as good as NST, neither is better or worse.

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if everything is an open system then why does energy run down? only in closed circuits do we have waste.

Everything is an open system and every circuit is potentially OU if properly designed but conventional circuits discard or shut off the excess, take the ignition coil (pic below), you see that resistor in parallel with the switch, they literally burn the extra energy, throw it away. If that backemf is captured IC would very likely be OU, more or less depending on various factors. The thing to mention here is, as was said on this forum before, that higher the resistor you discharge the backemf into, faster and higher will be the spike, that is the purpose of the cap in series with the resistor in diagram below, to SLOW DOWN/LOWER the spike to protect the switch. But if backemf is fed into another transformer and stepped down, primary circuit should see that as resistive load so spike would remain high and energy harvested, potentially OU or at least close to.

Same is done in conventional motors, as one guy who worked in the industry said when he asked his colleague (i paraphrase) why are we throwing away the BACKEMF, colleague answered just do it, don't ask too many questions. As for reactive to active conversion, if you hit the resonant system once the gain from ambient is too small to keep the oscillation going, let alone power a load, but if you keep feeding it in phase at it's natural res. freq. and build up a large reactive power, you are stirring up the ambient significantly and then strange things can and do happen.

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Remember Don said Amperes (current) is a rate of whats being wasted. I don’t waste in the pri u see. If Don has milliamps in input then he’s still wasting.


Again, if prime mover is not self-sustained it matters not the least if it's using 10W to produce 10kW.

Your idea that you "don’t waste in the pri" is unclear and flawed in my opinion, you are misinterpreting Don. Again, take the greenwave's chubinidze replications. There is nothing special about his primary circuit, it's just a flyback charging a cap which discharges into the coil, just like in an ordinary Tesla coil. As you can see he is inputing 33.75W to fully light an 800W bulb. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vGP5-qacAY

Don often pumped up reactive current to extreme values, the exact opposite of what you're saying, in fact, like someone already said on this forum, this is the key to Don's systems, pump up the huge reactive power and use a small part of it (maybe 10% as Dan Combine and bolt say). Take his famous table-top device, take a good look at those caps before the primary,

https://youtu.be/ux-Cw01E36U?t=1488

they appear to be 3uF 4000VDC, firstly it is strange that caps of those values are that small, usual size for such cap is waaaay larger usually cylinder. But let's say they are those values. Do you understand such cap discharging into a 5 turn coil of negligible resistance would produce HUGE current, possibly on order of 100 amps or more for a brief instant. So there is nothing here about reducing the current, just the contrary.

Need i remind that capacitance decreases your Q, Q = 1/R * √(L/C) but again, from Don's devices we can see high Q is not essential.


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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2022, 07:13:12 PM »
ok if u insist u don’t need spark gap, u do need to gain current somewhere somehow tho. just sayin’  :)

I have opinion and freedom of speech so no worries if u disagree.  ;)

250W—2kW is the output ranges I have built, many different sized devices. sorry to confuse u.

I started with low output and kept increasing yield. input power never changes.

7.5kW is a commercial unit I am developing for home use like Saith Technologies already sells.

Yes TPU aka Leedskalnin PMH. Zilano used homebuilt flyback but I never used that sorry. so much easier to use NST with or w/o gfi. Her input was 65W she stated she needed fat spark with her air coils. she had big thick sec like Kapanadze with multi-sliding taps, taking off multiple resonant copies from same resonance unit. u can do same!

well u can disagree with closed vs open, but u take a + and a — from a battery and u WILL run it down by loading. in a closed circuit energy is wasted and the rate of waste is in unit ampere. after a while, i got the feel of Z and understood she was showing different ways of making open circuit pri.

u say my idea is unclear and flawed but it runs fine no less. it don’t need ur blessing.

answers sometimes come that are not what we expect, and in studying energy this is absolutely true in my experience. an open mind is a requirement.

I don’t worry about Q, if I did all my coils would be square dimension but this isn’t feasible all the time.

ur pic of ignition coil is good example b/c that bottom HV wire is shorted to pri pos. so one single wire makes a primary and secondary field.
this means ur spark is actually neutral charge b/c it will jump to battery neg AND battery pos which is 100% dead short with that connecting wire there.

Cheers

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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2022, 09:04:02 PM »
ok if u insist u don’t need spark gap, u do need to gain current somewhere somehow tho. just sayin’  :)

I am all for sg, that's why i gave so many examples that sg gives gain, but it's important to also listen to Don and others and understand current gain can be done without.

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I have opinion and freedom of speech so no worries if u disagree.  ;)

We all do. No worries if you don't agree with me either ;)

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250W—2kW is the output ranges I have built, many different sized devices. sorry to confuse u.

No need to apologize.

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I started with low output and kept increasing yield. input power never changes.

7.5kW is a commercial unit I am developing for home use like Saith Technologies already sells.

I already wrote about Maxwell S. Chikumbutso here and am following his channel.

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Yes TPU aka Leedskalnin PMH.

TPU was wound on CORK, it had no ferromagnetic core whatsoever, it was a principle of wire through coils pulsed with 2-3 frequencies that was reproduced (to a degree) by Otto, and another guy in my overunity playlist, so very different from Leedskalnin's PMH.

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Zilano used homebuilt flyback but I never used that sorry. so much easier to use NST with or w/o gfi.

Let me quote Zila "i made my own nst(without gfi)", so, like i said, she built a NST not a flyback. NST or flyback without diodes would be preferable if you want to feed primary in phase (if your sg fires in sync with primary resonance), but if you just charge a cap (build up significant energy) and fire through sg, then it's irrelevant, well, NST full rectified will have twice the frequency than FB, but those are nuances, i'd guess cap(s) will charge in about the same time for same power input.

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Her input was 65W she stated she needed fat spark with her air coils. she had big thick sec like Kapanadze with multi-sliding taps, taking off multiple resonant copies from same resonance unit. u can do same!

She clearly wrote she first tried to replicate Don's aircore device at 246MHz 1/4 length with naked thick secondary (so she can slide the contact for tuning).... and FAILED (i can find the quote if you want), then she went with step down version (at 35.1KHz) and "force resonated L1 and L2 with caps" and after 6 months got it to work, first 2.5kW and later 10kW. I know well "i can do the same" (the aircore ver) but as Zila said ferrite core gives more juice so i opted for that. You never said did you go with aircore or ferrite.

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well u can disagree with closed vs open, but u take a + and a — from a battery and u WILL run it down by loading. in a closed circuit energy is wasted and the rate of waste is in unit ampere. after a while, i got the feel of Z and understood she was showing different ways of making open circuit pri.

Sure, load will drain the battery so you can call the most basic circuit with just battery and a resistor "closed" if you like. But as soon as you add asymmetry, sudden impedance changes, fast impulses, resonance... then we can hardly talk of "closed" circuit anymore, all these and others being potential sinks for the ambient.

And what is a battery but source of potential, as Don Smith said you don't get power from the power company, they just provide alternating potential to disturb your local ambient background.

Wasted current is in ampers so is the gain current, so.

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u say my idea is unclear and flawed but it runs fine no less. it don’t need ur blessing.

Just cause something works does not mean your idea of how it works is correct. You must formulate CLEARLY what you want to say (not just you, everyone ofc). Not just say my primary is open and that's it. Any asymmetry/sudden impulse/resonance... is "open".

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answers sometimes come that are not what we expect, and in studying energy this is absolutely true in my experience. an open mind is a requirement.

Of course, i see that myself. Open mindness, that is, neutral observation, patience, thoroughness and persistence is a must, More knowledge (connected dots) and experience we have we get more "feel" for things, which is understanding on a deeper level.

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I don’t worry about Q, if I did all my coils would be square dimension but this isn’t feasible all the time.

Well, high Q is usually preferable, but obviously not essential.

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ur pic of ignition coil is good example b/c that bottom HV wire is shorted to pri pos. so one single wire makes a primary and secondary field.
this means ur spark is actually neutral charge b/c it will jump to battery neg AND battery pos which is 100% dead short with that connecting wire there.

Cheers

I never found out why exactly they connect primary and secondary in ICs but i have to disagree with what you say, sure you can say one wire makes pri and sec field, but first of all, these fields are offset in time, pri field builds up, collapses and as it collapses secondary field builds up. Secondly, we can assume secondary current splits between the cap-resistor path and the battery. The key point being the secondary current does not flow through battery in both directions but in one direction.

In any case IC as is is wasting energy for stated reason, IF backemf was captured then it would very possibly be OU.

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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2022, 10:10:06 PM »
well I do listen to Don, but he didn’t spoon feed ppl he made one think it and work it out.

u mentioned his matchbox sized device with no caps no coils. ever put two transistors on top of one another and measure C between them? parasitic c b/w adjacent transistors. like Fogal transistor w/o cap. he gave hint- he said everything has LC&R, even solid state passive components.

TPU wound on cork… well not mine.  ;D u must’ve missed the post where zilano disclosed TPU is a Leedskalnin PMH used to charge cap. then she gave example of using it to power Kapanadze type circuit and u have a kW self-runner device.

not sure what u think flyback means but its a method of feedback with another coil to switching transistor. depending on core type some have in-built diode like tv yoke but I don’t touch those kind.
NST does similar its just HV HF power supply already potted.

I use neither air nor ferrite core, but MetGlas and even better permeability material. "The magnetic equivalent of negative resistance is hidden, being the increase of magnetic permeability." -don

I would love to get into this more detail, but there is almost no one I can talk to about this. everyone throws old theories at me like dogma and here am just trying to impart a different way of thinking or looking at the thing b/c 125 year old theories of electricity just don't cut it.

I was amazed at Zilano’s unwavering positivity and willingness to share with others and it inspired me to pay it forward, so-to-speak.

no offense meant, but u don’t think about what I said. from ur ignition coil down u have a spark at the spark plug, pull that wire out and put a piece of metal in the connector and arc it out onto battery positive while car is running, then arc it to neg. IT JUMPS TO BOTH. so if it jumps to pos then sec current is neg, if it also jumps to neg then sec current is also pos, its pos and neg at same time. which is NEUTRAL.

So in other words Coulomb’s law just went in the trash can. means u can also put North-North poles or South-South poles together. means we have to rethink electricity from 100 or more years ago till now.

Old Fords and Commodores used to run "waste-spark management" where they don't have that wire connecting pri and sec they actually fire BOTH sides of the coil into two different cylinders both b4 top dead center. better economy and motor runs smoother. so big take away is there is no waste spark, only waste electricity.

Yes amps is waste and gain is amps, but why waste at the start of OU circuit? doesn't it make sense to waste it in load where u want it?

Just thoughts to consider.

Cheers

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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #22 on: April 23, 2022, 10:21:52 PM »
Regarding TPU core, from https://www.scribd.com/document/37391777/Steven-Mark-TPU

After the test the inventor cut the toroidally shaped device into segments (though not the controller box located at the center of the device). These samples consisted of an array of circumferentially arranged coils and wires grouped around a core made of a cork like substance.

October 29, 1995 Roland Schinzinger

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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #23 on: April 23, 2022, 10:44:37 PM »
the 800W tabletop TPU Steve cut into had two smaller toroids at the center u call "controller box" - that was the generator not the outer bit he cut.

simple misdirection.

Cheers

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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2022, 12:16:07 AM »
well I do listen to Don, but he didn’t spoon feed ppl he made one think it and work it out.

That's what Zila said, you have to take into consideration i know everything she said and every time you quote her without quoting her i will surely know it. BTW i agree with her on that.

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u mentioned his matchbox sized device with no caps no coils. ever put two transistors on top of one another and measure C between them? parasitic c b/w adjacent transistors. like Fogal transistor w/o cap. he gave hint- he said everything has LC&R, even solid state passive components.

I did not do that particular test but i said already when replying about Zila's copper tube setup that everything has LC (and of course R) value. This is basics, probably everyone here knows this.

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TPU wound on cork… well not mine.  ;D u must’ve missed the post where zilano disclosed TPU is a Leedskalnin PMH used to charge cap. then she gave example of using it to power Kapanadze type circuit and u have a kW self-runner device.

Whatever you did has no relation to SM's TPU ;D Zilano didn't know how TPU worked. If you want to understand TPU better read Energy Conservation Device Disclosure (Otto; Roberto) in attachment.

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not sure what u think flyback means but its a method of feedback with another coil to switching transistor. depending on core type some have in-built diode like tv yoke but I don’t touch those kind.
NST does similar its just HV HF power supply already potted.

:) Seems you confused what flyback means. Firstly, i'd suggest you to read my post below to learn deeply how ordinary transformer works and how flyback CONVERTER works cause technically it is not a transformer cause output is not proportional to turns ratio but a coupled inductor. Flyback refers to the cathode ray in the TV "flying back" to the left side of the screen (looking from behind screen) at the moment flyback's secondary discharges. If flyback had no diodes it would not be a flyback, it would be a ferrite core transformer. Also, transistors are irrelevant, switching can be done by a vacuum tube, mechanical switch or whatever means.

https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg564961/#msg564961

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I use neither air nor ferrite core, but MetGlas and even better permeability material. "The magnetic equivalent of negative resistance is hidden, being the increase of magnetic permeability." -don

I know Don used Metglas and have his quotes on it, that small device i spoke of 10W in 10kW is Metglas as well as are those huge toroids you see in his photos. He explicitly said those are wound on Metglas.

As i wrote in first post i ordered from China 400$ supposed 50,000+ permeability permaloy core which turned out to have permeability worse than air. Thankfully ferrite is good enough.

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I would love to get into this more detail, but there is almost no one I can talk to about this. everyone throws old theories at me like dogma and here am just trying to impart a different way of thinking or looking at the thing b/c 125 year old theories of electricity just don't cut it.

Who is "throwing dogma and 125 year old theories" at you, i sure am not, in fact, i am farther away from dogma and old theories than you.

Also, get off your high horse, you know far less than you think you do. I am not putting you down, just saying as it is.

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I was amazed at Zilano’s unwavering positivity and willingness to share with others and it inspired me to pay it forward, so-to-speak.

She was willing to share but how "unwavering" was she when she DELETED ALL HER POSTS.

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no offense meant, but u don’t think about what I said. from ur ignition coil down u have a spark at the spark plug, pull that wire out and put a piece of metal in the connector and arc it out onto battery positive while car is running, then arc it to neg. IT JUMPS TO BOTH. so if it jumps to pos then sec current is neg, if it also jumps to neg then sec current is also pos, its pos and neg at same time. which is NEUTRAL.

So in other words Coulomb’s law just went in the trash can. means u can also put North-North poles or South-South poles together. means we have to rethink electricity from 100 or more years ago till now.

No offense taken and no one can guess your thoughts if you do not express them properly. READ what you wrote:

"ur pic of ignition coil is good example b/c that bottom HV wire is shorted to pri pos. so one single wire makes a primary and secondary field.
this means ur spark is actually neutral charge b/c it will jump to battery neg AND battery pos which is 100% dead short with that connecting wire there."

Who can from this get that you meant

"pull that wire out and put a piece of metal in the connector and arc it out onto battery positive while car is running, then arc it to neg. IT JUMPS TO BOTH"

No one can. So what if you do that and it jumps to both, No, it does not mean "Coulomb’s law went in the trash", current will take all possible paths to close the circuit. Nothing strange about that one.

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Old Fords and Commodores used to run "waste-spark management" where they don't have that wire connecting pri and sec they actually fire BOTH sides of the coil into two different cylinders both b4 top dead center. better economy and motor runs smoother. so big take away is there is no waste spark, only waste electricity.

Again you talk in semi-nonsensical manner trying to sound like Zilano. What is ""fire BOTH sides of the coil" supposed to mean, potential difference is built up between two sides of the coil, spark fires between them, not just from one side or the other. So it's pointless to address the rest of that paragraph.

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Yes amps is waste and gain is amps, but why waste at the start of OU circuit? doesn't it make sense to waste it in load where u want it?

Just thoughts to consider.

Cheers

Already addressed that, who cares about 10W or even 200W if you're getting many kW on the output. Sure even that can be eliminated but is of no particular importance.
« Last Edit: April 24, 2022, 03:50:27 AM by nix85 »

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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #25 on: April 24, 2022, 12:23:45 AM »
Ok i see i get no where on here.

I really should have known better.

nix85 is expert here and i know nothing abt wot i talk.

so i take my leave from here.

Fin

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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #26 on: April 24, 2022, 12:25:03 AM »
the 800W tabletop TPU Steve cut into had two smaller toroids at the center u call "controller box" - that was the generator not the outer bit he cut.

simple misdirection.

Cheers

Coils are essential part of the generation system, box was probably just pulse/frequency generator. You compared it to LS PMH which is using an iron core and does not use frequencies of any kind, totally different from TPU.

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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #27 on: April 24, 2022, 12:33:13 AM »
There, he stoops to sarcasm and runs away just cause i corrected him few times, why some people just say stuff if it's not thoroughly researched/understood, it's better to say nothing.

Nothing surprizing and just proves, again, just cause someone gets something to work, does not in any way mean that person understands exactly what he's doing and underlying principles.




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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2022, 04:53:22 PM »
$50,000 a year for seven years working alone to get a working Don Smith device. Yes i know how it works, yes I know what I’m doing, and how underlying principles work of course.

when I try to explain it to nix85 (or even a PhD who saw demonstration with meters) I get greeted with “no-no” attitude. The more educated some1 is the harder it is to accept wot am saying. Don knew this well too.

Yes I know how transformer works.  ;D any1 who can build working Don knows basic transformer 101 stuff. forget the flyback too, I don't use it.

well I told u it was my first posting b4 and u were (seemingly) asking for guidance but later didn’t really want it, so maybe u should have said nothing like I should’ve said nothing... but it matters not. b/c ur OP and always have last word on here. No worries.

forget the TPU thing. u asked my inputs and am at stage where there isn’t one.
my tpu is small thing, ferrite core, makes just 60W out of thin air to run NST w/o battery consumption.
but since here we discuss Don device lets stick to that, not get sidetracked on TPU discussion.

questions welcomed.

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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2022, 06:30:06 PM »
See how much money and time he spent trying to get it to work, i might say that alone proves my point, when one really understands (is able to draw solutions from higher spheres) one needs not tons of money or time but unfortunately (or not) it usually takes such great investments before one allows himself to listen to intuition better, instead of tons of money i invest tons of mind power, result is the same. May i remind that i been experimenting with this only few weeks and most of that time as usually doing it in my mind, analyzing circuits and what exactly happens and improving/completing my setup.

LOL "when he tries to explain it" as if he is the one to explain anything, as if Zila did not explain it all 11 years ago and Don before that.... Firstly i am not conventionally educated and i am deeper in this stuff than him despite the fact he has succeeded and i have still not (again, i just started experimenting with this approach few weeks ago). I am not greeting him with “no-no” attitude. I never denied his success, all i did is question his level of knowledge and understanding according to his statements which indicate certain lack of both. Just take the example how he took the fact that when you place the ignition coil output over the battery it would jump to both terminals to conclude it violates the Coulomb's law while it actually does not, current simply takes all possible paths to close the circuit, etc. Yes, we all make mistakes including me but i at least try to make sure to understand things deep enough so i don't make such basic mistakes. Zila as a girl had natural predisposition to use her intuition and so she succeeded fast, after just 5-6 months, but downside is such short time is not enough for deep understanding of all the principles involved (conventional and not) to crystalize on a deeper level so she made many mistakes like "core will saturate at higher frequency" altho it is exactly the opposite etc.

Never mind saying nothing, all this is serving it's purpose to somewhat remove the veils/fog from the minds of many.

TPU is irrelevant as is the question if prime mover is self powered or not.

I have no questions for you but if others have may they ask anything they want.