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Author Topic: Just another Don Smith thread  (Read 14421 times)

Online Vortex 22

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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #135 on: May 10, 2022, 06:52:42 PM »
Now I am trying to replicate water fuel cell capacitors?
The fact that we have a Diode before the cap
This only prouve it, it's not about resonance?

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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #136 on: May 10, 2022, 07:22:08 PM »
Just a note to builder  / researchers


I am working on this Don Smith research I was sent


Just trying to be respectful to senders , while they are indeed
Open source fellows,
stepping up to forums can be unpleasant experience for some (past history
Of forums prior to allowing new “moderate your own board” as presented here for builders ( also one
Other open source venue I am aware of ?)!


And it seems there are a few bumps in the road to sort what is acceptable ( for builders) etiquette of entire Venue… as it applies to shared work !


Not gonna be easy…However
I firmly believe it’s doable!


With gratitude and respect to those who carry water or at the tip of the spear ( research or build)!!


Chet K

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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #137 on: May 10, 2022, 10:21:47 PM »
@Vortex 22

my 2cents.
this device (to me) looks like Don is just putting hf DC pulses onto one side of both caps, then putting load b/w other side of caps and earth ground. Don Smith effect.
3rd terminal on cap isn't used.

u r right we almost always use Don circuit with storage cap to turn Volts into Coulombs (VA).
Don would use say 4 x 50F cap banks to do this.

thank u for shedding light here and ur suggestions r most welcome here by me.  ;D

wlw

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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #138 on: May 10, 2022, 10:24:40 PM »
*correction: HV Dc pulses. not HF b/c NST is 60Hz driven by invertor.

wlw

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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #139 on: May 10, 2022, 11:22:07 PM »
I know, we all know this!

The basic idea :
How to make an electron captor?

In the suitcase device around 28.8 kw output
I can see with my eyes two electrons captors?
The small electron captor is powering the bigger one?

From the Smith pdf

"For reasons of Don's personal security and contract obligations, the information which he has shared here is incomplete."
« Last Edit: May 11, 2022, 08:53:51 AM by tomd »

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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #140 on: May 11, 2022, 04:40:18 AM »
Regarding Don's tabletop device built in 1994 which allegedly outputted ~16kW.

We know he used 0.2uF 4000V capacity on the primary.

There is also that small 0.047uF for tuning on the sec.

And output caps are 8000V 2uF overall four 2000V 8uF in series.

Ask yourself the difference how will primary ring if you discharge a cap

directly into it or through a diode. One may expect a different result

but i found spark gap fires at the same rate. In the case with the diode we

can assume, cap first fully discharges into a coil as if there is no diode, current

rises to max, cap is fully discharged, now flux collapses and coil recharges

the cap in the opposite direction. But what now, there is a diode preventing

the cap to discharge, oscillation cannot continue. We can only assume

at this moment cap will discharge through the flyback secondary as it

is the only path it can take and this may harm the flyback cause it is not

made for such large current, even if only momentarily.



« Last Edit: May 11, 2022, 10:09:20 AM by nix85 »

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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #141 on: May 11, 2022, 11:59:40 AM »
One of my scope shots that shows strong (approx) 12th harmonic.


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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #142 on: May 11, 2022, 02:19:35 PM »
Good luck

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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #143 on: May 11, 2022, 02:29:51 PM »
Don Smith give us everything we need to replicate his many devices !!!

There is one page or two from Don
Where he shows us a capacitor and diodes in order to capture free charges from the environment?
But don't take it at its face value !!!

This is the basic

Online Vortex 22

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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #144 on: May 11, 2022, 02:40:18 PM »
@Vortex 22

my 2cents.
this device (to me) looks like Don is just putting hf DC pulses onto one side of both caps, then putting load b/w other side of caps and earth ground. Don Smith effect.
3rd terminal on cap isn't used.

u r right we almost always use Don circuit with storage cap to turn Volts into Coulombs (VA).
Don would use say 4 x 50F cap banks to do this.

thank u for shedding light here and ur suggestions r most welcome here by me.  ;D

wlw
Image is not clear enough to understand how this device works?

My guess
Some  first model of the electron captor. But people like to jump to replicate his more advanced devices
We need to identify
The components?

Offline whitelightningwizard

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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #145 on: May 11, 2022, 03:02:05 PM »
@Vortex

these pages?

if so, this is “Don Smith effect” as he called it. put a dc pulse on 1 side of cap, other side copies same from ambient.

if image attached isn’t clear there are others. most ppl miss seeing the resistors bridging the two terminals of big capacitors.
cap with resistor across terminals.

ALL we got on this board is a:
inverter
NST dimmer
NST (big box says Danger HV)
diodes (on heat sink)
2 capacitors
+wire to connect

Don’s systems are modular, and this 1 he said is a commercial model. it’s missing output module. but is shown in schematic.

I don’t recommend ppl build the device nix posted. u need expensive caps to collect harvest in that 1.

wlw

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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #146 on: May 11, 2022, 03:44:06 PM »
Yup

This is Don Smith Effect

This is the building blocks of free
Electron Captor !!! Believe it or not

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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #147 on: May 11, 2022, 05:42:09 PM »
It's seems to me that no one is interested in these two pages from Don Smith?

The average reader already knows without further elaboration.
They ignored it. Is this due to a myopic vision and retarded awareness, or the obvious likelihood that they are
more concerned about maintaining the status quo of science than in discovering truth? Perhaps it is a
combination of both.

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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #148 on: May 11, 2022, 05:52:21 PM »
In the diagram there is no diodes?
But in the text on  second page he mentioned the diodes

(with some minor corrections
to be done  )
Let's try to see this energy pump from his other materials and real devices? Ok

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Re: Just another Don Smith thread
« Reply #149 on: May 11, 2022, 06:21:43 PM »
Regarding the pumping electrons from ground, he used a small tesla coil
to excite the cap plate, keep in mind tesla secondary is usually coupled
to ground through the air capacitively, thus closing the circuit.

Only way that demonstration would be truly as claimed is if tesla coil is not
grounded/earthed, like the small, battery powered chinese boosters.
The "million" volt ones produce up to 180kV (measured).
In short, it uses a single transistor oscillator
which powers a transformer converting 3-9V into 1500V
which charges a cap and when it charges to 1500V it fires
through a sparkgap into a small tesla coil amplifying it further
to 180kV or maybe even little more depending on the unit.
These units are complete, utter junk, they usually break down
within minutes, if it lasts few days it is a miracle.

Don't interpret this as debunking, i already shared a great video
of 1100W load being powered by 9W between a resonant transformer
and earth. So this effect has been confirmed many times.
It's just delicate and most fail.

Yea, the host in that Don's video claimed they run the small tesla coil
from a battery and made sure circuit cannot be closed, but we
have to take his word for that.