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Author Topic: Anyone know this tesla device?  (Read 3624 times)

Offline uk_guy

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Anyone know this tesla device?
« on: February 02, 2021, 11:42:13 PM »
Hi, In this segment of a video (I've included the time), anyone know what kind of device he's talking about?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0u6TR1bhig&t=50m10s

"8 copper insulated coils two wheels with 8 two inch by 3/4 inch magnets x 16 with maybe 4x2k watt capacitors. Repulse motor, needs to be plugged into a 110?", the plans are from some guy based in Indiana?!

Thanks all!

Offline AlienGrey

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Re: Anyone know this tesla device?
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2021, 08:51:01 PM »
Thanks for sharing the information.

Have you thought of asking the guy to see the pictures of the device ?
Possibly a gravity device.

If your using Ne D magnets the coils would have to be used to break the field
and then I would think collect the huge fly back magnetic pulse one would assume.

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Re: Anyone know this tesla device?
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2021, 07:54:04 AM »
how?

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Re: Anyone know this tesla device?
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2021, 06:33:14 AM »
What is this about?

Offline captainpecan

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Re: Anyone know this tesla device?
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2021, 07:15:47 PM »
To be honest, what I hear when I listen to this is simply just an axial flux motor he is running off of 110 power. For those not real familiar with it, just simply go look up videos of people building wind turbine generators. He describes an 8 coil stator sandwiched between 2 8 magnet rotors. It is possible since it refers 2 4 capacitors, that maybe he is describing one of these axial flux machines with 4 drive coils and 4 generator coils. I would have felt better about his description if he did not make it known in the very beginning that you have to use 110 AC power to run it. But I believe it sounds like someone trying to explain something when he really has no idea what he is talking about. He is calling it a repulse motor, and then goes on the say it is hooked to AC power, and the power goes in, and then right back out over and over every second... He just explained what AC power is. Nothing special. He then claims he hooks a meter to it and the meter never moves. I don't think he understand how an AC meter works at all. If he however said it runs off of batteries and charges the batteries as it runs, and you can generate electricity from the work of the machine to charge other batteries, I would have more to go on. Even then possibility of using the Ronald Brandt Tesla Switch idea to keep the batteries flipping to make the "repulse" he appears to be talking about. But with the info he gave, he contradicted what seems to me as all the things that could have given his story any truth in my opinion. With a very open mind, this still sounds to me like an embellished story to sound cool on a radio show. Seems odd how he says he lost interest in it and just left it in his garage. Yup, because if I had limitless free energy sitting in my garage I'm sure I would keep paying hundreds of dollars a month for electricity for absolutely no reason as well... sorry to say, this story doesn't cut the mustard for me. Also, anytime someone gets on these radio shows and wants to sound like they know "Top Secret" information, they always use Nikola Tesla's name as it was his device to basically steal his credibility. It's kind of offensive to many who actually do follow Tesla's work and actually replicate it to understand what was really going on in his mind. Just my opinion. Thanks for sharing though.

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Re: Anyone know this tesla device?
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2021, 10:22:55 PM »
captainpecan
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With a very open mind, this still sounds to me like an embellished story to sound cool on a radio show. Seems odd how he says he lost interest in it and just left it in his garage. Yup, because if I had limitless free energy sitting in my garage I'm sure I would keep paying hundreds of dollars a month for electricity for absolutely no reason as well... sorry to say, this story doesn't cut the mustard for me.

I think it sounds very strange to you because you don't understand the perspective...

I have many devices which do very strange things most cannot even imagine. I don't disclose or try to profit from them because to be honest most people tend to lose there mind and become unhinged when confronted with the unknown. In essence it's not worth all the hassle and drama dealing with immature people.

For example, from history we know that when most people disclosed this technology harassment and death threats started. Then people started spying on them or breaking into there house/shop trying to steal the technology. If they tried to connect to the grid the utility corporations and government sued them or confiscated the technology. Which comes full circle back to harassment and threats always living in fear that some psychotic nut job is going to do something stupid. So why bother?...

In my opinion what the caller explained was very easy to understand because myself and most other inventors I have talked with do exactly the same thing. We invent and learn for the sake of learning, not to impress others infatuated with money and impressing there friends.

Is that so hard to understand?...

Regards
AC


Offline lancaIV

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Re: Anyone know this tesla device?
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2021, 12:28:20 AM »
Hello uk_guy,look how an european AC network works and then think about this delivered "radio-show"-circuit ,Battery-gen-set !
For understanding : DC battery to inverter to ? 110 -115 AC Volts or ? 220-230 Volts AC

Probably You know the EE definition history :

1V x 1A = DC Daniell cell    100 x  package/battery = 100 V x 1 A  DC

The difference from 110-115 V to 100 V  is the - AS AVERAGE CALCULATED -source consumer delivery lost
In old buildings with to thick cables and bad connections  there is an extra - up to 30% efficiency/delivery  (as heat emission)  lost to observe !


This is the AC tension/current positive/productive part delivered from e-provider to e-consumer !
The other,in-/re-verse = negative tension/current part is the feedback e-consumer to e-provider !
e-provider to e-consumer and back displacement network system.

110-115 V positive  and 110-115 V negative is the 220-230 V POWER FACTOR POSITIVE to POWER FACTOR NEGATIVE cycle from and in the european network,mostly by 50 Hertzian cycles = fixed continuous momentum 3000 RPM rotative machines


to differ from US : 60 Hz/3600 RPM

What this "radio-show" inventor did is synthesising/micronising the public AC net-work as portable device !
Pre-thinker : G.Kron,C.Steinmetz and A.Kennelly : FARAD to DARAF,Volt to AbVolt,.......

EE-DC to differ in application from EE-AC , EE-duty cycle Systemtheory !


Sincerly
OCWL
p.s.:    DC-generator ( Solar,wind,water,MoGen,.....) to AC-net-infeeder : obeserving the process ! :       
           http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=3821856&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en
static battery gen-set application :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20090326&CC=US&NR=2009079393A1&KC=A1#

rotative battery-gen-set application :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=&CC=BE&NR=438189A&KC=A#
Je dois aussi attirer votre attention sur la façon que l'accumulateur est raccordé.    ;)

Mon moteur est en générale applicable par-tout où fonctionne le moteur à essence (moteur à explosion) motos, autos, camions, autocars, avions, hydravions, canos, automobiles, bateaux, navir, etc..etc...

2021 idea : autonomous skeletons ?  :D
Aurevoir or bye-bye

OCWL

Offline onepower

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Re: Anyone know this tesla device?
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2021, 11:48:47 AM »
I though the perspective about aliens in the last part of the video was interesting.

What would you think if whenever we went to another place everyone started screaming, wetting there pants, shooting at us or running away?. Most aliens must think we're dense, like some kind of woodland creature with a brain the size of a pea. The aliens probably joke about us, those elusive creatures who start screaming and run away whenever they try to have a chat, lol.

Most are so self-centered they forget that we're aliens as well. We're as alien to them as they are to us. In every other place in the universe, by definition we are the aliens. Yet apparently this fact has seldom crossed anyone's mind.

The aliens are probably pretty cool and we seem to be the ones with issues. You know the, they are different so we should probably try to enslave or kill them thing. We haven't quite got past that shit show yet and have a ways to go. We're more like the crack smoking, gun toting neighbors nobody likes but still tolerates, lol.

It's kind of messed up...

AC

Offline captainpecan

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Re: Anyone know this tesla device?
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2021, 07:41:23 AM »
I completely get what you are saying. Still sounds more fishy than it needs to. For instance, if the meter never moved, but it generated infinite power, ESPECIALLY being a builder of the device, why wouldn't you want to hook an invertor to it and run stuff off of it for free??? I have built and studied many different devices to learn from them. I've made a few real nice devices combining what I've learned. One thing I guarantee you is that if I made one that did what he claimed, you can bet your butt I'd be so damn proud of it I would at the very least be using it to heat and cool my house.


I also am not one to always believe that age old conspiracy that everytime something doesn't work as planned or disappears, "They were after me"... don't get me wrong, I think everyone in here knows this has been fact and has happened. But everyone goes right to that explanation everytime. Just maybe it didn't work as good as claimed? That is the most logical outcome. Also, if I was hiding it in my garage because people were after me, I darn sure would not be blabbing all about it on a radio show.


But... I do believe his description fits so extremely close to an axial flux design, amd certain things he says tells me he is describing an actual device he may have built or at least has seen. But the most important details were not just left out as we often see. They just didn't even make sense in his case. Almost as if he is just embellishing his story. The "concept" he is referring to is sound. Not saying it's proven to work, but many of us have been working on it. In fact, I have a version similar to what he describes I've been working on for quite some time. Of course mine has a few strong twists that may or may not turn out to be beneficial. But that is of course the fun of it all. I'm trying a bit strange configuration of many things.


But hey, happy building! Sure wish there were pics of his device at least.

Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Anyone know this tesla device?
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2021, 08:52:31 AM »
For those interested:


A key point that Tesla was trying to get across to everyone,
was about storing the electricity from one coil, into a capacitor
to use in the next sequential coil.


He did this using spark-gap timing, but a modern transistor switching
circuit, or RLC timing could also be used.


The goal being to utilize the electricity between source and ground
before it goes to ground (and is wasted).


For instance, the charging current fed into a capacitor during charging
can be sent through a load first.
This, of course, requires more source current:
charging current + load current
but is governed by the capacitance and the discharge voltage.
Lets set these to be equivalent


Now - if this load is a stator coil, and the next adjacent coil is a generation coil
in reverse, and store that as well. Now you have both units of energy stored.
Discharge this through the next pair of coils, etc.


This motor runs with very minimal losses.
Consuming all of the electricity.


Compare this to a modern motor in which the electricity is dumped
through a coil straight to ground.


Offline captainpecan

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Re: Anyone know this tesla device?
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2021, 06:30:09 PM »
You are 100% correct. And that is the EXACT theory I have been basing all of my experiments on. In my mind, it's all about RECYCLING that energy. You are not creating it or destroying it. We cannot do that. But it appears that the work done by the motor is the "Free Energy" per say. The magnetic field that is generated around the coil of wire as current passes through it, is the secret here. That magnetic field, (in my opinion) is not coming from that wire. It is the environment reacting to the current of the wire. That means the magnetic field is "independant" of the actual energy in the wire. That magnetic field can slow down the flow of current in the wire, Lenz law, but it is not "created" by energy leaping out of that wire and being lost in the environment.


There was some work Tesla did I tried studying many years ago. There just doesn't seem to be much about it anywhere anymore. But what I am referring to I believe was called the Tesla Shuttle but I may be incorrect with the name. I cannot find the patent anymore or anything by that name. I hope someone in here remembers it and maybe can remind me what it was called. But it was following the entire idea of passing energy THROUGH devices to power others while still getting the work done from the first one. I sure wish I could find more about it now. So much I want to learn from it and recreate to test. But I honestly believe he visualized this way more simple than many of us make it out to be. I think is simply recapturing as much as possible WHILE you get work done from the devices. Adding them together gets you to what we believe is overunity. But hey, trying to prove it is where the real fun is...

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« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2021, 06:41:51 PM »
Something that always bothered me about capacitors though, is that assuming the equation is absolutely correct for figuring energy in a capacitor, you effectively lose half of the energy immediately just charging the capacitor. Clearly it's not exactly 50%. Many things go into consideration. But for the most part, it is very lossy. While figuring ways to utilize lithium ion cells in certain ways can give over 90% efficiency in recharging. Clearly there are advantages and disadvantages of both methods. But I have always had that initial loss bouncing around in my mind every time I try amd decide the use of capacitors. Are they really that inefficient? My tests seem to prove that they are. Can we improve on that somehow? Possibly maybe charging them in series from back spikes that are high voltage, and then discharging them in parralel to a load or to recharge batteries. It seems you would avoid that immediate 50% loss of energy for some reason. Maybe I am incorrect in that. But it's an idea.

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Re: Anyone know this tesla device?
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2021, 12:11:58 PM »
I see it like this:


When you just place your charge on one side,
1/2 the capacitor charges, the other half induces
an equal and opposite charge - this is the other half
of your energy - the part you ‘lose’.


If you take a 2nd inductor (reversed), pass the same electricity
through the 2nd one and feed it to the other side
You effectively have 2x charge on your capacitor
resulting in pretty close to what you put into it.
(minus heat etc)


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Re: Anyone know this tesla device?
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2022, 08:07:18 AM »
I've seen it before on the video, but I don't remember its specifications.