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Author Topic: 99.5 % efficient electric motor !  (Read 1014 times)

Floor

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99.5 % efficient electric motor !
« on: April 01, 2022, 12:25:27 AM »
99.5 % efficiency electric motor sets record in 2017

 Correction, that;'s
               99.05 % efficiency electric motor sets record in 2017

https://www.abb-conversations.com/2017/07/abb-motor-sets-world-record-in-energy-efficiency/

I'm not sure, but I think maybe that    > 50% efficiency    is possible only when some
amount of back EMF is constructively utilized. 

Of course most of us are aware that every motor is 100% efficient when we take into account all outputs ( useful or otherwise ).
« Last Edit: April 01, 2022, 03:42:35 AM by Floor »

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Re: 99.5 % efficient electric motor !
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2022, 12:33:27 AM »
About <50% and <100% motor and or generator efficiency point of view some statements here to find :
http://www.ettridgeorbitalengine.com/Gemini-Electric-Motor.php
To Hallbach array another array idea :

Ronbach array :
https://patents.justia.com/inventor/pat-sankar

https://patents.justia.com/patent/8514045
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Re: 99.5 % efficient electric motor !
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2022, 01:46:33 AM »
https://www.coilwindingexpo.com/Articles/permanent-magnets-in-e-motors

Lanca, do you understand drawing where it describes energy recovery.

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Re: 99.5 % efficient electric motor !
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2022, 02:20:57 AM »
kajunbee,
from Gemini-page to extract :
In a device such as an electric motor where fields are in a constant state of change, the net loss in performance from undirected lines of magnetic force can be significant. This is perhaps another reason why electrical engineers have avoided permanent magnets in motor design, as they introduce not only expense, but also additional design challenges.
The Ettridge solution to this issue illustrated in Figure 4, is to provide the motor with a magnetically permeable back plate, which acts to contain the magnetic lines of force of the permanent magnets. This ensures the magnetic signature of the technology is relatively clean, and the rotor action can function without excessive magnetic drag. It also means the magnetic fields have to cross only 2 air gaps, as opposed to a more conventional 4. Therefore, a further principal of the Ettridge motor technology, is the creation of a magnetic flux circuit.




EE-circuit https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Anergie?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp  ?


                                            improveability ?


an other (clouly) Aussi,  : https://mtbest.net/    https://thiaoouba.com/consciousness-and-immortality/ 8)




            TOTAL Energie https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energie



            =                           Exergie                                                      +                 Anergie

                                         https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exergie                            https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anergie



             Anergy-diminuation process integrated : https://mtbest.net/chest-fridge/   permanent powering with stand-by losts
                                                                                                                                   appropriate powering (by nearly)without stand-by losts


         https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synergetics_(Fuller)  and                       https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Synergie?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=25&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19900215&CC=DE&NR=3826970A1&KC=A1#


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=26&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19821007&CC=DE&NR=3039176A1&KC=A1#


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=27&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19810723&CC=DE&NR=3002327A1&KC=A1#

                                                                                                                   
Probably You,kajunbee,will find in the above Oskar Becker circuits the free energy = Anergy potential !

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Re: 99.5 % efficient electric motor !
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2022, 02:26:45 AM »
Sorry lanca but I was talking about Fig. 5.  This is only one example as stated in article.

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Re: 99.5 % efficient electric motor !
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2022, 02:30:36 AM »
99.5 % efficiency electric motor sets record in 2017

https://www.abb-conversations.com/2017/07/abb-motor-sets-world-record-in-energy-efficiency/
...

Correction. Article states 99.05% efficiency.
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Re: 99.5 % efficient electric motor !
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2022, 02:32:12 AM »
Sorry lanca but I was talking about Fig. 5.  This is only one example as stated in article.
Apparatus was developed that enabled current to be extracted from the motor while in operation, without placing a load upon the motor. While many motors feature an ability to draw energy from the motor while breaking or other low load scenarios, the    Gemini motor can produce a real output at all times, even while under heavy load.
This output can be fed back into the motor, or used to recharge the source, and augments the     efficiency gains already apparent in the design.
 A number of different implementations exist for this method, and one is illustrated in Figure 5, taken from the patent.

~ A motor,with integrated generative recuperator,rotative, rotoverter principle.


https://contest.techbriefs.com/2015/entries/automotive-transportation/5902
"  ....   from normally unused magnetic fields within the motor. ..."

Similar,"Powermax" :
https://web.archive.org/web/20060428000222/http://www.trinitymotors.net/
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=14&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20040805&CC=US&NR=2004150289A1&KC=A1#



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Re: 99.5 % efficient electric motor !
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2022, 03:02:29 AM »
My spidey sense tells me their claims are B.S. But I’ll play along for awhile. A motor that draws less amps as it’s loaded down just because it has magnets on both sides. Hmmmmm

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Re: 99.5 % efficient electric motor !
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2022, 03:23:33 AM »
My spidey sense tells me their claims are B.S. But I’ll play along for awhile. A motor that draws less amps as it’s loaded down just because it has magnets on both sides. Hmmmmm
with simpler steps orientation ?
 https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20040708&CC=JP&NR=2004194491A&KC=A#
in motor-generator combination :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=3&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19981222&CC=JP&NR=H10341560A&KC=A#

Re-/search for a later "splitted-MEG array" with permanent magnets integrated,next step permmagnets free,pure electromagnetic attractor/repulsor exploration :

 https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=27&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20030110&CC=JP&NR=2003009558A&KC=A#

Magnesia : permanent magnet            electro magnet             capacitive magnet
                     magnetret                            electret                           captret

                                                                                                 https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=captret

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Re: 99.5 % efficient electric motor !
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2022, 06:45:41 AM »
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Re: 99.5 % efficient electric motor !
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2022, 04:07:34 PM »
99.5 % efficiency electric motor sets record in 2017

 Correction, that;'s
               99.05 % efficiency electric motor sets record in 2017

https://www.abb-conversations.com/2017/07/abb-motor-sets-world-record-in-energy-efficiency/

I'm not sure, but I think maybe that    > 50% efficiency    is possible only when some
amount of back EMF is constructively utilized. 

Of course most of us are aware that every motor is 100% efficient when we take into account all outputs ( useful or otherwise ).